samfan: T5.0-8.9 doesn't sound impressive, at least in the lower range (and I doubt it's gonna be T/5 until 999mm). How do cine people deal with bad speed in low light? I get it that with 1080p it's not such an issue compared to 36 MPx prints, but with 4k I guess things start getting noisy.
Q: "Why isn't Canon making a 1000mm t/2.2 lens and selling it for $800?"
An excellent question from the looks of it. Let me venture a guess then for the answer: "because Sony had beaten them to it?"
Roman22: Wow so much hate for this camera and for Canon it's quite pathetic. I wonder how many here have actually used a Canon C100? This upgrade addresses the main concerns users were having with the camera IMO - poor EVF, lack of slow mo. Do i wish it had more? Ofcourse I do but realistically Canon is not going to cannibalise their higher end cameras by giving us 4K, Raw blah blah. The fact is this camera will be a joy to use, produce a clean 1080p image without too much post work or taking up hard drive space and no need to mess with adaptors. I can also see the AF being really useful for run and gun and steadicam/gimbal work. I'm gonna wait until i can see some images from this camera and the FS7. However the FS7 will be almost £3k more expensive in the UK so not exactly comparable.
Canon's C100 2nd Feeble Attempt is a loser-cam right out of the gate. After all, who would be desperate enough to shoot 1080-line HD video today in the 2160-line UHD 4K era, or record in horrid 24Mbit/sec AVCHD codec video to SD cards, or output 8-bit low quality video via the consumer interface HDMI, and so on. And spend $5,500 for the dubious privilege of doing so. Would you, really?
jadot: Not particularly clever commenting on what looks tho be an amazing digital video camera.Loads of new features here and all people can whine about it "No 4K" and EVF woes!You have no idea. Really.
"You have no idea. Really."
Yes -- you are indeed clueless.
Another laugh-fest class feeble opening from Has-Been Giant Canon. This camera with its AVCHD codec, slow frame rates, low-end 8-bit color quality, HD-only resolution, and HDMI jack is a stark reminder how amazingly Sony had stolen the wind out of Canon's sail, as well as out of just about everyone else's sail.
The $8,000, 4K capable Sony PXW-FS7 D-film camera is 12x the camera than this new" Canon wannabe. This thing is old and limping already, and it is not even scheduled to ship until years end.
This lens is c-r-a-p-o-l-a. To shoot video with a T8.9 iris lens? Only the mind (?) of Canon-San could cook up something this incredibly dumb.
The 20x zoom range is not all that much to right home about, either. Back in 1958, we already had a French made 35mm movie zoom lens that was 10x and then 12x zoom range capable, and these were not T9 lenses but more along T2.7. Huge difference.
Why is Canon hell-bent in making itself look more and more ridiculous, I wonder?
Yeah -- $7,800 would have been the price at which they would have surely sold a number of copes. But at $78,00 a pop -- it is surely going straight into some well heeled museum as part of their permanent exhibit of 21th Century follies excesses.
audijam: did i see $78k? is it missing a "DOT" between 7 and 8? LOL!!!
$78k...CEO just got a new/fresh/younger/bigger boob mistress?!?!?!?!
pcworth: Does this camera really have lower noise/higher image quality than the Canon T4i at high ISO?
I currently use the FZ200 for my general travel camera and a T4i+70-200 f/2.8 for photographing figure skating friends. This seems like an interesting alternative, at least for the FZ200, but I am skeptical about the noise when shooting at 800+ ISO (often 1600) given the difference one stop slower aperture at 200mm on this camera compared to the Canon.
"I like how the APS-C gives me a greater "reach" with the 7-200."
Yeah, I had always wanted one of those neat 7-200mm, 28.5x zoom range zoom lenses, it's just that they are so rare and thus so pricey, no? :-))
Aguolo: I still can't find any answer on this issue, please FZ1000 owners, could i have your opinions on this ?
Here's my problem. It's the first time with a stabilized camera that when shooting in a quiet place, The mic picks up that much IS noise. I've upped a video of my son : http://youtu.be/MurpDFPqpKE).
The longer the zoom, the noisier it gets (more stabilization needed) and my ear can clearly hear this background sound.
Does it look normal to you or should i contact the seller ?
PS : I essentially use it for video. would it be just for photos, i wouldn't care.
Noisy-cam, it would appear. Too bad, really.
Pjolterbeist: I find it frustrating that DPreview most of the time don't include information on european video standards in their reviews. Often I have to search other places to find out if 25 or 50 fps is included in a camera's specs. In your review the specs sheet says "1920 x 1080 (60p, 60i, 30p, 24p) 1280x720 (30p), 640 x 480 (30p)". No mention on PAL standards.
But in the "First look" you said: 1080p movies at 60, 30 or 24 fps (50, 25 and 24 in PAL countries)
Have they (Panasonic) changed this between your "First look" and the final review?
Please take into consideration that not all of your readers are Americans.
"....this is a non-issue and in any event most modern TVs display either standard."
Not so. TV sets hre in Europe do NOT play back 60p, they max out at 50 Hertz, unless you have the 100 Hertz or higher sets, but even then they will not play out stuff in 30 and 60 frame,s only at 25 and 0, with some also capable of 24 fps playbacks.
Panasonic DMC-FZ1000 is not a world-cam: you will need to get a North American version and a Euro-Asia version to be able to record in any frame rate of your desire.
Birdy1970: Great cam.but not compact...
Yeah, I agree. If it were at least 5.5 grams lighter and 0.8mm smaller, I would buy it in a jiffy!
Al de Wet: Would like to see a professional IQ comparision between FZ200 and FZ1000 to help with making a "upgrading decision"
One has a sensor about 400% larger and a lens with a 200% longer throw than the other one has.
Kinetik13: I've heard the FZ1000 cannot be afixed on a tripod easily.The threaded tripod aperture on the bottom of the camera is said to be covered/obstructed by a plate of some sort, which needs to be unscrewed first. If so, HOW is it unscrewed? Are tools needed to do that?
Do you replace the card from the bottom or from the side? Seems like the cheap P&S-cams replace cards from the bottom, whilst all the better cameras have card slots mounted on the side or in the rear (as with some camcorders).
mannyr: Disappointed. There seems to be something wrong with my camera. Spinning the ring or using the lever, the motion is not smooth. It has slight jerks(not the step zoom feature). On the plus side, the camera is fast and focus accurate. For my tastes, the colors are a bit limp, specially compared to my Sony A57. I was looking for a camera I can use to take pictures of performances where shutter sound is 100% unacceptable. I've been using a FZ200 which is a wonderful camera but limited. I agree with those that have noted the plasticky feel of the FZ1000. It just feels like something might chip or crack given a bump. But one of my biggest disappointments has been the Zoom ring. My FZ50 is perfect because of the mechanical ring. The FZ1000 feels like you are spinning a ball bearing. No feedback whatsoever. What is even more frustrating is that the zoom is slow. If you are trying to shoot sports and want to zoom in or out very quickly, you can't. Once again Panny, so close, yet so far.
Sounds disappointing, for a $900 device we would like to have some semi-pro "prosumer" types of manual controls of these things (zoom, focus, iirs). Lack of built-in ND filters is a big let-down for videographers, as is the fact that allegedly the 25mm WA setting will suddenly become a 37mm normal focal length setting when shooting 4K rez video. Anyone had any experience with this? There is a "The Camera Store" demo video on YT, in it one can see how much WA perspective the FZ1000 loses in 4K mode when the lens is set at its widest possible angle, and it is stunning. You are giving up WA for a 37mm normal lens here in 4K mode, it would seem. How very disappointing.
eiguoc: I've had the FZ100 for about a week now, still learning. I have problems with playing video's back, they will play with the photofunstudio, but will not play in windows media player. Mine were jerky at the start but changed it to AVCHD & a smaller size. Is there another player that has to be used?
"I have a mac and am surprised how well quicktime handles the 4k files."
Good for you, however OP's comment would seem to indicate that the 100 Mbit per second bitrate for 4K video in MPEG 4 is a bit more than this particular camera's CPU can chew. The extra noise coming out of the camera may be due solely to the noisy optical image stabilization, or may also have to do with the small fan turning desperately fast in trying to cool that tiny CPU inside.
eiguoc: I'm sooo happy. by googling around and asking the right Question I found out that DVIX was needed to play video on player. I had recorded a clip on MP4 & on AVCHD. nothing worked on the AVCHD but DVIX DID PLAY the MP4. Choppiness, don't zoom in so much. Yes indeedy I do LOVE FZ1000
A brand new camera that still uses that old derided AVCHD as a video codec in the Summer of 2014? And where are the intricate details about Panasonic's 100 Mbit 4K odec? We know everything about the Sony XAVC S codec that was specifically designed for recording and editing 4K video on the consumer level, yet almost nothing about what Panasonic is using and how it was designed. I mean, is this thing in 4K mode recording in 8-bit or 10-bit, 4:2:0 or 4:2:2, etc?
Oldbeen: I've just received my copy of the FZ1000. Right out of the box it is making a constant whirring noise which sounds a lot like the small cooling fan in my laptop and is almost as loud. It is louder than the focus motor or zoom sounds. It stops when the camera is in playback mode.I contacted Panasonic support who told me that it is normal and is caused by the OIS (which can't be switched off on this camera). This noise is also quite different and much louder from that on my FZ200 which I hardly ever notice and has never been a bother. But I find this noise in the FZ1000 very disappointing and disturbing especially in a $900 camera.
If I want to keep this camera it's going to take some getting used to. Has anyone else encountered this "normal" problem?
So, it would seem that like 80 percent of the FZ1000 copies have this high sound pressure level noise, the rest have the normal OIS related noise. Still, not too good.
Now, for taking STILL PIX, the noise would not other me much (unless it would scare away some wildlife and animals in macro mode or something).
However, based on the comments, the camera is not too usefull for videography, unless once again you are shooting in MOS mode without recording a location audio track.
It would also appear that in 4K resolution video mode, this camera's advertised wide angle focal length of 25mm will suddenly become a 37mm normal lens, so if this is true, in 4K video mode this non-removable camera is useless as a semi-pro videography tool, unless all you are doing is birding and surveillance type of normal + telephoto shots with it.
Kilty Scotsman: Purchased 2 for me and my wife to take up a new hobby.Within first week managed macro of bumble bee and another with x10 62mm filter added, helicopter flying past and could zoom in to see pilot.Love auto tracking focus for moving objects.The settings and menus seem endless but we are getting there bit at a time.Panorama picture is amazing the way it puts it together all in one shoot.The whirling noise is minimal only really notice when in a quiet room, outside don't notice it.Almost forgot I set up my ipad as a remote control for camera using wireless connection, took about 1 minute. Then using Lumix free app. A lot of settings are available in remote including zoom. Ipad displays what camera is viewingGoing to set up tripod near my bird feeder and try to capture some close ups of all the birds using remote control. Pictures can be downloaded using wireless, pretty quick for file size.I like Sony but what we got for our money for the FZ1000 is certainly more than I expected.
How does the wireless remote work in video recording mode, I wonder, and how does the FZ1000's wireless video remote viewing and control work with appliances other than super-overpriced Apple products?
princecody: Anyone know if 4k mode has IS of any kind? I know 4k is limited in many ways since its fairly new.
4K has been out for about 8 years now. Re. the video samples posted here at the end of the review, the first one by DPR is basically a still shot of two cruise ships moored in the harbor. How this passes these days as a "video" clip beats the heck outta me.