Rooru S: So far, EVERYTHING in Photokina by Sony is aimed for E-mount cameras. Maybe it's time to sell everything I got of A-mount and jump ship?
Like me, there are a lot of people who invested heavily in A-mount thinking there was a clear and bright future. But making no announcements at all of A-mount equipment in one of the largest photographic trade shows is worrying and this silence says a lot about Sony marketing strategy...
Rooru S: Excellent range. Hopefully it will perform great. Now I'm questioning myself why buy again E-mount APS-C cameras...
But f/2.8 is f/2.8 for exposures purposes. You don't get the same thing when you set a camera in f/2.8 and 1/60s and f/4 and 1/60s. and ISO100 fixed.
Rooru S: WHAT THE HELL IS SONY WAITING FOR?
aherm... It's still hard to believe Sony doesn't have a 16-50mm f/2.8 and a 50-150mm f/2.8 for their APS-C E-mount cameras... When they released the 16-50mm f/2.8 SSM for their APS-C A-Mount cameras back then in 2011, I thought a 50-150mm will follow. Nope, they released a slow 55-300 with crappy SAM motors.
In Latin-America, most a77 users got themselves the 16-50mm so there is an important market for APS-C lenses but it seems they prefer people to go away when they learn the 70-200mm f2.8 SSM II is 3000USD...Now imagine how E-mount users feel.
What if I need F2.8 for exposure purposes? And this 50-150mm f/2.8 is SMALLER than the 70-200 f/4. There are OBVIOUS advantages when it comes to keep the APS-C E-mount lineup small, but that is negated when you put a fullframe lens on it..
Interesting copy of Sony/Minolta 300mm ;)
Now I'm looking at Samsung a little bit more serious with the recent offerings...
DPReview Staff..Any insights why Sony decided to not announce anything related to A-mount in one of the biggest -if not the biggest- show in the photographic world?
This stand reports says everything we must know about Sony...they don't take seriously their user base. Maybe it's time to jump from the A-mount wagon?
Impulses: Sony's QX concept as it exists today hasn't exactly caught fire with consumers, but I think enthusiasts would be a lot more interested in it if they made slimmer models with prime lenses instead of zooms... 1" sensor + pancake 35mm or 50mm or both, something with RX100 IQ but cheaper and easy to pocket alongside a phone, what's not to like? Stacking a zoom on just makes it unwieldy. Maybe Olympus will pick up the ball here, MFT sensor with something like the Pana 20 or 14 on it, easy to pocket and easy to slap on any phone.
What you just said, can be done with the QX1 and one of those pancakes Sony is making (SEL16F28, SEL20F28 and SELP1650)
But it's F4. APS-C Users shouldn't be limited by fullframe standards. If any other APS-C manufacturer got their F2.8 Zoom lenses, why the heck E-mount users has to stay with F4?
I'm not concerned about range, I'm concerned about the lack of F2.8 APS-C dedicated lenses.
So far, EVERYTHING in Photokina by Sony is aimed for E-mount cameras. Maybe it's time to sell everything I got of A-mount and jump ship?
@Thorgrem: I'm afraid of that. When Sony released their 16-50mm f/2.8 for A-mount cameras, I thought a simiilar lens would follow for E-mount. Nope, we got a slow pancake 16-50 with high distorsion (if you turn off SW corrections). And after A-mount users got their 16-50, I thought a 50-150mm f/2.8 would follow. NOPE, we got a slow 55-300mm with crappy AF motor that doesn't allow DMF...
They're too focused on their FF E-mount lineup.
WHAT THE HELL IS SONY WAITING FOR?
JanMatthys: Canikon have been concentrating on protecting their D-SLRS, while Samsung and Sony have embraced the mirrorless design cameras, Samsung has a real winner here
But Sony can't keep the pace up with their lens offerings.
Sony is reluctant to make a 50-150mm f/2.8 for their E-mount APS-C cameras. Heck, even a 16-50mm f/2.8 seems like it's hard to make for their E-mount cameras... Everytime they start developing a new lens lineup, they reduce efforts on the others. Last year we saw only one new A-mount lens (SAL50F14Z) aside from the updates and this year only one new APS-C E-mount lens (a crappy SEL1850) bundled with the a3500.
Excellent range. Hopefully it will perform great. Now I'm questioning myself why buy again E-mount APS-C cameras...
wsalopek: ASTRONOMICAL PRICE.
For those who want some kind of decent line of FE lenses (good/great performance AND at least semi-affordable) as they consider buying into the Sony FE ecosystem...announcements like this are rather disheartening....$2500?
Honestly, to say something like this "expands the FE lineup", is like saying "Gulfstream has introduced a new business jet, so YAY, Joe Traveler has more choices of aircraft to fly".
Of course I exaggerate some but...
Look...this is probably a good lens. But for Canon and Nikon customers who are considering an A7/variant (or indeed ANYONE considering an A7/variant), the limited number of FE lenses (A-mount + LA-EA4 is far from ideal), compounded by the utter astronomical prices of said Sony lenses, is, well, like I said, sickening.
You're NOT in the target market for this. This is clearly a VIDEO lens designed mainly for the a7S, VG900, FS700 and FS7. In the target market of videographers, this lens is really cheap. Wanna see? Look for the CZ.2 28-80mm T2.9 lens and be surprised. And that's just an ALL-manual lens. The Sony can be manually operated or use AF/PZ/AE.
For your needs, you can always look at the photo Zeiss lenses in the regular lineup for the a7 series..
Well, it seems the rumors were right...sort of...
We got interchangeable lenses, a flash unit (built-in) and a new phone. Aside from that, everything was fake.
Rooru S: imagine this lens on the a7S... Not going to buy it since I already know it's soft wide open but at least it's an option to shoot in reaaaally dark conditions. ISO409600 and f0.95 seems insteresting.
@Jun2 well, you can skip using Slog2 and use a normal profile for ISO100.
Rooru S: I would rather have the a5100 and transfer pictures via NFC to my phone than buying this module..
BUT... I see a possible escenario of buying the QX1. Studio film shooting. If it's capable of shooting at 1080p60 with MPEG, then I can see some people buying a bunch of these and have multiple camera angles. The only thing is...is there a setup to stream this directly online?
Wow... I didn't know that about the Z3....
Is it weather sealed?
I thought Sony was crazy when they released flash units with LED. But now that Nikon did the same thing... maybe they're not.
Joe fotosiamo: Anyone know if this is focus by wire? I hope not. Also, clickless aperture?
In the press release it says it uses an SSM motor. So, comparing it to current SSM lenses in the A-mount lineup, you could say it's a mechanical focus when you move the Focus Ring but focuses by wire in AF mode.
James Pilcher: Where are the real FE lenses? The video stuff is fine, and this lens looks excellent, but FE still shooters are starved for a lineup of good FE-native glass. Honest question: Is still photography dying?
I think, Today begins IBC. It's a video focused show so it's normal that today they announce stuff like this. On monday or later, you can expect to see the photo stuff.