Nice. This will be my next lens. I don't need telephoto much, but for the price and size, this seems like the perfect choice for the concessional time I need it.
So this targets the DSLR video shooting market that cares about smooth zooming, but doesn't care enough for a video rig or a fast constant aperture lens. Got it.
sunilkumar: I wish GrIII comes in 24Megs and option of 35 mm and 28 mm equivalent range so we can choose which model to get. I like 35 mm and understandably many others like 28 mm.
Probably too close for market differentiation. I could see a 40mm happening.
Joe Ogiba: $558 for a fixed lens point & shoot with no VF ? Really ? Ricoh makes money on the poor Pentax fanboys that are living in the past.
This is the smallest ASP-C sensor camera/lens combo on the market and is the only digital fixed lens camera with a usable hyperfocal/zone focus implementation (other than the much bigger and more expensive Leica Q). For those of us who do zone focus street photography and carry a camera every day, it's one of the best tools for the job. A built-in VF would be great, but the external OVF works fine for this type of usage.
There is a reason this non-descript little rectangle remains on the market and it has nothing to do with Pentax fanboyism -- my primary system camera when not using the GR is Fuji X.
Market differentiation. These largely aren't "pro" cameras. They are enthusiast cameras, so they represent something other than just tools to get the job done. Why churn out shapeless, neutered petrochemical lumps when Cannon and Nikon have the market cornered in that area?
KonstantinosK: Now if only Ricoh could find a way to include a EVF without altering the design and the size (at least not by much)....
I use the clip-on OVF, but would love a built-in OVF. Prefer OVF over EVF for a camera like the GR in order to save on battery. An EVF seems like overkill on a fixed lens 28.
Is it any faster? Recently ditched Lightroom 6 for Capture One due, in part, to how slow LR6 ran on my computer. Just curious, no desire to go back.
BeyondPluto: Until someone builds a compact, fixed lens camera at this price with zone and hyperfocal focusing implemented so well, the Ricoh GR has no competitors for many street photographers. Fuji almost got there with the X70, but dropped the ball when it came to a rapid way to adjust zone focus; plus the X70's screen can't even be turned off.. a big no-no for street shooters using an OVF for discretion and to save battery.
Yeah, that's what's annoying is that both these issues could be fixed in software. I don't hold much hope because Fuji has had years to install some kind of quick zone focus in the X100 series, but it hasn't.
Until someone builds a compact, fixed lens camera at this price with zone and hyperfocal focusing implemented so well, the Ricoh GR has no competitors for many street photographers. Fuji almost got there with the X70, but dropped the ball when it came to a rapid way to adjust zone focus; plus the X70's screen can't even be turned off.. a big no-no for street shooters using an OVF for discretion and to save battery.
rsf3127: Nice camera. But you can get cameras with EVF, better video specs, more megapixels and an AA filter for less money. Sony A6000 comes to my mind. It suffices to put it side by side in the comparison tool to see that it delivers better IQ.
Size and snap focus are the reasons for the GR. No other compact I know of has implemented zone focusing as well.
mclaren777: Ricoh execs are kicking themselves right now for not using the sensor from the A6000 in the GR II.
Barn, if you are serious about street photography and understand how to incorporate the GR's snap focus into your workflow, you'll understand why an electronic distance scale is an inadequate workaround on Fuji's part and why touch screen, while useful in some cases, isn't going to be a significant solution.
The GR is the only camera I know of without a physical DoF scale on the lens barrel that seriously addresses the needs of those of us who primarily shoot with zone focus.
The rumor is that the GRII was slated to get the Sony a6000 sensor, but delays in sensor production plus Sony's contractual delay required from competitors to use their sensors meant it wouldn't have been ready on Ricoh's product release schedule. Marketing being what it is, Ricoh felt obligated to get a new version of its camera out there no matter how small the update. However, the sensor in this Fuji is 2-3 years old and not much of an improvement over the one in the GR.
I really want to love this cameras as a street shooter as I prefer Fuji classic controls over the Ricoh GR controls and I prefer Fuji RAW files, especially at high ISO.
But if Fuji can't figure out a faster way to toggle zone and hyperfocal focus distances, the Ricoh GR will remain the choice of a lot of street photographers due to its snap focus feature and the ability to permanently link apertures with pre-set focus distances in its MY settings.
A lot of people have stayed away from the X100 series precisely because of this issue.
The problem is that you have to muck with it every time you switch aperture. GR allows you to permanently link an aperture and associated focus distance in the MY settings.
Who cares about auto focus on a 18.5mm ASP-C camera? It seems Fuji failed to include a fast way to toggle zone and hyperfocal settings like you can with the Ricoh GR. If you shoot street, being able to quickly switch to the proper hyperfocal distance when you change aperture means more than any auto focusing system.
With the X70, you need to turn on the LCD screen and adjust your focus distance using a craptastic electronic scale using a fly-by-wire focus ring every time you change aperture. Those of us who use the optional OVF don't want to have to turn on the LCD to make basic adjustments. Also, it's very likely the focus ring, since it is fly-by-wire, turns too easily, which means any bump will knock it out of focus.
Fuji could have made a lens with a physical distance scale, or they could have baked an auto-hyperfocal mode into the software, but they elected not to.
lolz. For $100 more, you can have a Ricoh GRII with wifi if you want a compact wide angle camera.
I'd think about it if it had a manual zoom. Motorized zooms just don't work for me.
morepix: I don't know if it's just a testing fluke or a real camera difference, but the studio comparisons at high ISO (1600, 3200) look a good deal better for the GM5 than for my LX100. I'm seeing my $900 going down the drain. :-(
There are plenty of cases where that's not possible... not to mention the perspective changes as well. A wide angle held close to the subject doesn't look the same as a telephoto lens shot from afar, even with a subject equally filling the frame.
mcshan:Now try to change the focal length on the 15 or 20mm. Not going to happen. It's all a matter of compromise. LX100 offers compact size, plus zoom and better light gathering than GM5+kit zoom, at a reduced IQ over GM5+good prime.
mb65: This camera has amazing specs and it is indeed good value. But it is NOT pocketable. So if you compare it with similar size gear, you may just go for interchangeble lens cameras with similar size sensors (or even APS C). They will be bigger with a zoom, that is true, but similar with a a pancake.If you do not need 4K (and most do not) I think the Sony RX100 III makes more sense. If you go bigger then go for bigger sensors.Just my 2 cents.Mattia
What makes this camera interesting is the first place is the fast zoom in a package the size of a pancake prime. If that's not a selling point for someone, they shouldn't be looking at this class of camera at all.
The RX100 III holds no interest for many of us who prefer manual controls over menu-driven controls.