extraone: the problem I see is not the QC but the work ethics.
out of all the asian countries, japan is the only country that has a very hard work ethic.
they live to work. all the rest work to live.
"think what you want it doesnt matter." is almost as ignorant as saying "out of all the asian countries, japan is the only country that has a very hard work ethic."
... they loan you the camera for a month? Is that with or without insurance?
Peiasdf: I get less and less of the British humor DPReview like to post. Maybe it is a result of DP joining mothership in Seattle and the horrible weather there. Most sample image aren't interesting to look at. Good for technological analysis but simply don't wow unlike marketing material. If only DP can move to Florida, Arizona, California or Hong Kong.
The 'Isles aren't exactly known for their weather.
jtan163: Oly and Sony's partner ship pays off for Sony.This will be a total monster for adapting lenses.When the A7sII comes out it will be an even more incredible video camera.
It's pretty clear looking at the thing that it's an Olympus design.
hypo: What a wonderful juxtaposition DPR came up with. Side by side were the first Hasselblad in space up for auction and the golden Nikon.
Both fabulously exotic and expensive.
Neither good value for money (as a camera).
But if you could win one of them in a competition, which would you want to have?
It's a historical item, no one who buys this will use it as a walk around camera.
mpgxsvcd: What makes the LX100 a "Point and Shoot" camera. Yes it has an Auto mode. However, all cameras including Full Frame DSLRs have an Auto mode.
The term "Point and Shoot" is what should die. There is no such thing as a point and shoot camera. All cameras have some sort of camera control now.
The more appropriate term is compact or more specifically you can say small sensor compact or large sensor compact.
Oohhhh, internet tough guy here!
You're the one hung up on terminology.
Because it is a point and shoot camera. I chalk it up to anything that isn't an interchangeable lens camera.
ZhanMInG12: People here complaining about the F4 should note that no other major mirrorless system has a UW zoom faster than F4 in equivalent DOF. The Fuji 10-24mm is F4 and also rather big and heavy.
If you absolutely need F2.8 there is the much revered Zeiss 15mm Distagon ZM. True German optics at the lowly price of $4600...
iso is what it is. At a low base iso, not too much of a diff. Putting it up high, then there's a large difference, though in a lot of cases (for me at any rate) I'm not exactly going to use a UWA lens in the middle of the night.
burnymeister: The GM series m43 cameras are the first in that line that really made sense to me. The promise of m43 was always size and weight reductions no? The inclusion of an EVF and slightly larger form factor makes this an attractive option. I've used the GM1 with lenses like the 12mm f/2, 15mm f/1.7 and 45mm f/1.8 and it's a very nice combo.
Unfortunately for me, Sony proved more innovative with their RX100III and it's popup EVF and their FF line of A7 cameras. But if I was in the market for m43, this would be it.
Sony is a great electronics company. As an optics company, they suck.
I'm always tempted by the A7, but their lens line up is horrible. Sure I have a ton of manual focus lenses, but I don't want to use those, as I'll see all of the flaws in the lens etc not to mention using an adapter increases the bulk where I'm looking for more compactness.
sjredo: And still, no portrait option after what? 6 years? Damn you Sony.
35mm isn't a portrait lens in the traditional sense.
"no other major mirrorless system has a UW zoom faster than F4 in equivalent DOF"
That's a pretty useless statement. It's about exposure, not shallow dof with UW.
Jogger: $950 is a lot of monies for a 50/2.. the excellent Nikkor 50/1.8 can be had for less than $200.
"excellent" is always relative.
historianx: Where's Yabokkie?
I think he went back on his meds.
StevenMajor: I understand the image having value but not the camera. The buyer will be someone's vain moneyed attempt to associate themselves with greatness. Or maybe an investor who will seek a similar client.
Seriously? It's a historical item.
Jogger: Not going anywhere near Android, iOS, or Windows Phone... they are basically NSA data collection devices.
But you computer on the internet isn't?
forpetessake: "12-45mm f/3.5-6.3" -- really? Making such a dim lens with such a small sensor makes no sense. It's f/12.6 FF equivalent! Even the old film days P&S Olympus soap boxes were brighter. This Chinese company is nuttier than a fruitcake.
equivalent dof does not equal exposure. There is no film/sensor size format switch on the side of a light meter.
davidjlee: Which venue denied this camera? The Showbox?
Always the Showbox. I'd rather have some superzooms in there than the tons of cellphones being held up.
W5JCK: Bridge cameras like this one and the RX10 or still what I consider to be sub-enthusiast level. The 1" sensor is too small to deliver quality IQ at any low light level. That f/2.8 lens on a 1" sensor is equivalent to a f/5.0 lens on an APC-S camera. Pretty darn slow for wide open, and thus rather lacking in low light capability. A f/4.0 lens on a 1" sensor is equivalent to a f/7.1 lens on an APC-S camera. So this camera basically has a f/4--f/7.1 zoom lens compared to APS-C DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. Meh! For the price of the RX10 you would be better off with a a6000 and a few good lenses. This one is cheaper, but still not worth the price for anyone who wants an enthusiasts level and above IQ. This is a mom/dad camera used to take little pictures to post on the internet. Again, meh!
f stop is a lens property, and just a formula at that. f2.8 is f2.8 no matter what. Is there a "1", µ4/3, APS-C, FF" switch on the side of your light meter? No there isn't.
Maklike Tier: I love the 'concept' of this camera, but if you have to stick a $1000 prime onto it to get quality shots from it, then you're looking at a $1600 package....with only one lens. For that sort of money you could get an EM5/10 with THREE f1.8 primes, or the EM5 Elite with the Pro 2.8 zoom.
I think Sony is an incredibly innovative and adventurous company, but they really do lack the 'X-Factor' that companies like Fuji and Olympus have.
Sony is a fabulous electronic company... not so much in the lens dept.
That's only a f2-2.8 ff equivelent- pffft ;)