Vlad4D: Not fair comparison. For example on ISO 6400 Olympus has shutter speed 1/2500 but Nikon has 1/4000.
Noise should be compared at identical shutter speed and aperture.With 1/2500 Nikon will get about twice less noise than on 1/4000.
Some companies continue tricking customers and I see that dpreview continues to support it by publishing those unfair tests.
joejack951, adjusting light for every camera makes test even more unreliable. In my opinion shutter, aperture and scene brightness must be identical for all cameras (SAS lock). Then we can optionally normalize the images (or use Auto ISO) so they have same brightness. Un-normalized version should be also available.
Not fair comparison. For example on ISO 6400 Olympus has shutter speed 1/2500 but Nikon has 1/4000.
altaf007: the a6000's flash isn't powerful enough for much more than close-range portraits and 'fill-in'. However, it can be used to control compatible external speedlights wirelessly. This function is enough for the existence of this small pop up flash. That's all what I need from such tiny flashes, nothing more.
Plus it allows bounce flash mode. Not many build-in flashes allow that.
Looks much bigger in those small hands :)That's how full frame NEX supposed to look like :)
locke_fc: Sony, stop churning out endless iterations of these bodies and start releasing compact lenses for them!
what lens are you missing?
cxsparc: Strange review. Sounds to me like a general negative attitude towards the A7s. Example: "initial disappointment over twodeck custom menu", or "EVF as means to an end". Then, I also noticed that the A7 shots (example bearded man shot from right side at Jack Daniels) were badly focussed. But in that case, I also noticed that the shot was done with the kit at maximum zoom = 70 mm and 1/60 or similar, so probably simply shaken. And if I would notice such a problem, I'd make a to b tests with the same lens and check out what is going on.
@ abortabort - if you paid for 36MP you probably want to see what you paid for - that's makes difference :)
white shadow: Wow! 1629 comments in just a few hours. That must be the new record. There are definitely a lot of keen people out there.
The image quality from this camera is definitely first class. It can even surpass that from the Canon 5DMk3. However, one must beware of the downside which will "break" this camera.
# VERY SLOW AUTOFOCUS ESPECIALLY IN LOW LIGHT.# Sony's usual "not so friendly" user interface.# Current shortage of compatible lenses # Slow tracking and continuous focus
For such an expensive supposely PRO grade camera, there is no external charger. It might be convenient at times to charge batteries inside the camera but doing so will not allow the owner to use the camera. It is also hazzardous as a current surge will destroy the camera.
This is definitely early times. Sony is always good at innovation but lets see whether they will really make an alternatve system camera to rival Canon, Nikon or even Olympus.
Professional photographers are holding their breath or will they?
AF with E-mount lens it is slower than good DSLR with good lens, but with A-mount lens (and adapter) - it is as fast as any good DSLR.Sony menu looks not friendly only for long time Canikon users.Yes, there are no native FE mount lens at the moment, but thousands of non native lens maybe used (with slow or no AF) and tens of A-mount lens (Sony,Sigma,Tamron) maybe used on full potential.With A-mount lens tracking supposed to be good.Charger costs 15$.I think this camera is awesome, but I will wait for the next APS-C offerings from Sony :)
ProfHankD: Wow! It's beating the D800 fairly easily -- didn't expect that. It also blows away the Canon 5D III (there's more detail in the A7R at 6400 than in the 5D III at 50), but that was not entirely unexpected.
It looks like Sony is retaining detail really well in JPEGs while nicely removing somewhat more sensor color noise than the competition that shows up in the raw. This might be the best JPEG engine I've seen in a camera so far.... I will admit to also wondering if the color noise isn't noise at all, but artifacting due to the lack of an AA filter? If so, congrats to the lens used, because that would mean it's well past Nyquist for a 36MP FF sensor....
PS: Look at the Jack in the comparison scene. Interesting that only the A7R doesn't make the Jack's hair go the wrong direction with artifacting....
Latest Sony sensor seems little better than previous one used in Nikon, and that's' normal.
not for 36MP...
Sergey Borachev: Looks good and it is a great camera if you only use fairly "standard" FL lenses like 50mm, 35mm and perhaps 60mm. Once you start to use the wider or longer lenses, particularly you need more speed, the lenses are huge and unbalanced on this camera, that is assuming such lenses will become available any time soon.
Sony has this obsession of making cameras that are really small, too small for the lenses that will be put on them. The last experiment, NEX, has not taught them anything. Now, it is making the same mistake in this one, since FF lenses cannot be small except for a few around the standard FL.
Sony should remember that there is a difference in FF camera requirements and being ultra small is not the most important one, as in a compact RX100. Features, reliability, support, and also confidence are very important. Is there still confidence in Sony system, as it goes on trying one system experiment after another?
This body maybe unbalanced with huge lens and perfectly fine with others. Huge body will be fine with huge lens and completely stupid with small ones. There is no perfect size. And if you need bigger body - just attach hand grip.
I would like to compare smartphones with real cameras. Why not add phones and cameras to same single database?
ISO is even more overstated than before. (I compare to NEX-6)But even taking overstating into account on ISO 6400 it is as good as NEX-6.
Currently this camera is best non Canikon seller on Amazon. Number 5. I think it deserves proper review here.
Azfar: I don't get it. Why offer NEX specs in an SLR body ? I am genuinely perplexed.
Because a lot of people love SLR bodies :)
Frederik Paul: Looks more like a Bridge camera to me, very cheap look, including LCD. The upgrade path thinking is okay, but it could backfire when people regard the camera as too cheap and don't buy.
If it is too cheap - just wait for A-5000 or A-7000
tecnoworld: Ugly and bulky imo. And cheap of course!
It is ugly and bulky only because most people think that only ugly and bulky cameras can make good pictures :)
A-3000 looks very good at that price. This makes me think that A-5000 will be awesome and A-7000 will be completely amazing. I will wait for my A-7000 :)
Sangster: Why didn't Sony attempt to make the body thinner?
Because there is a NEX line for that.
What do you use for you awesome macro shoots? Raynox 250?It looks pretty sharp.
Andrew Butterfield: Suddenly I don't want a Sony NEX6 any more
Twice more money for smaller sensor? No, thanks.