wlad: Is there some sort of competition between Nikon and Canon in who can come up with the most ridiculous product that sells the least units ?If Cannon & Nikon really want to lose market share and become irrelevant, they both are doing a great job.
Seriously - what were the last exciting products these two have released ?You know it's bad, when Sigma makes more exciting lenses (Art), and Sony makes more exciting cameras (A7/R, RX100 etc).
No, this illustrates that DSLRs did not grow either.But nothing has fallen as hard, as P&S by 48% in 2013:
justmeMN: Compact camera sales are rapidly declining, so Canon decided to try to increase sales with a unique feature. The camera may, or may not, be a sales success, but at least Canon is trying new things.
It wasn't a hyperbole - this camera is without any exaggeration EXACTLY as useful for the preservation of a product in the market, as that telegraph receiver with added LED diodes.But please, if Canon pays you for astroturfing like Sdaniella, get back to us in 1 year with sales figures for this ridiculous camera.
oh, and btw, one of the definitions of sarcasm:1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
BarnET: I have an challenge for everyone mocked this canon n100Find an compact that was released this CES that has better image quality.And the x100s is excluded for just being an fancy makeover.
question: does it have significantly better image quality than a similar P&S camera released during CES 3 years ago ?
it's called sarcasm, but I'm not surprised that a Canon fanboy/employee did not get it...
"(Reuters) - Japan's Canon Corp (7751.T) cut its operating profit outlook for the second quarter in a row, below analysts' estimates, warning that sales of its signature high-end cameras will fall this year for the first time since their launch in 2003.
The world's largest camera maker said it now sees global economic gloom squeezing sales of its digital interchangeable-lens cameras to 8 million through December from 8.2 million last year. Demand from camera buffs will stay weak in Europe, and fail to recover as quickly in China as Canon had expected."
"Electrical telegraph receiver sales are rapidly declining, so the manufacturer decided to add blinking LED diodes. It may or may not be a succes, but at least they are trying new things."
Since P&S is a dead end, Canon & Nikon might want to focus on future products and markets, instead of taking yet another shot at the dying market.Canon & Nikon failed miserably to establish themselves on the ILC market, because they didn't have the balls to create a system that might compete with their entry level DSLRs. Micro 4/3 would have never taken off if it wasn't for Canon's and Nikon's ignorance. The sad part is, they keep on ignoring the market even today - when it's obvious that the last days of the mirror box are near.Ridiculous products like a 2 sided camera or a waterproof system camera just prove how desperate these companies are.
Exciting to those, whom Canon & Nikon target with their DSRL product lines. You see they are not only losing the P&S market to cell phones - they face a stiff competition in the enthusiast market as well.And it seems they haven't done anything about it for the last 5 years.
FoolyCooly: Is it just me or does this cost 2x more than it should? The 35mm f1.8 DX is just $200...this doesn't look 3x more expensive.
2.25x bigger sensor
I wonder why the 32mm f1.2 lens for N1 doesn't cost approximately $215, since it covers just 1/7th of the FX format.
semorg: No Nano coating? I guess Nikon doesn't want to cannibalize their 35/1.4 lens.
Not when you assume your customers are brainless zombies ready to pay $600 for an unimpressive, cheaply built lens that should cost around $300.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: Inane. If this is all Canon can come up with to counter smartphones' rising sales, I fear for the future of their camera division...
I think Sony competes with phone cameras quite well. They figured out they need to use a larger sensor, not add ridiculous bells and whistles. The 1" sensor cameras are doing just fine.
JEROME NOLAS: The new year starts pretty badly...
with this howardroark bloke around, it seems Canon puts more effort in trying to win online discussions, rather than actual market share.
Is there some sort of competition between Nikon and Canon in who can come up with the most ridiculous product that sells the least units ?If Cannon & Nikon really want to lose market share and become irrelevant, they both are doing a great job.
BarnET: It is based on the 35mm art. That lens weighs 665 grams. So 850 grams seems heavy. Guess some more digging is required.
No it's not. It's supposedly retrofocal.
olakiril2: good luck nikon and zeiss. You will need it.
from the article:
"Overall this suggests Sigma has adapted an optical design normally used for retrofocal wide angle primes (rather like Zeiss has with the Otus 1.4/55), instead of producing a variant on the double-Gauss formula generally used for 50mm primes. "
BarnET: Guess this will get a lot of attention.
It seems that *every* new lens of the Art series will get a lot of attention.It took Sigma just a single year to get from "meh" to "wow". Not counting R&D, just market presence. Incredible.
Since the 35mm 1.4 Sigma outresolves the 35mm 1.4 Zeiss lens even when it's stopped down, there's no reason why this new 50mm lens could not outresolve the Otus as well
Naveed Akhtar: What the tooot!! First Sony (A7, Rx10) now Samsung(look at this lens)! Where are those big name brands sleeping?!
the big name brands are playing a game called "Who can ignore customers' wishes longer?"
io_bg: No filter thread and 6 diaphragm blades? Too bad...
you want better bokeh on that infinite focus ?
wlad: And here I thought Nikon's Df was the most pointless camera ever...
what 2 stops are you talking about ?A ISO 12800 image from the D800 downsampled to 16MP beats a D4 shot at ISO 25600, so in the best case the D4 has a half a stop edge over the D800.And I really doubt that many people regularly shoot at ISO25600 and beyond.