AshMills: Id just like a Nikon native mount camera with A7S sensor, a tilt and swivel screen, onboard 4K, silent mode, fast AF. With or without an EVF. Please.
Bah, the obsession with 4K! It is not necessary right now but the 'I want it' crowd will probably get their way as the consumer market like to entice people to upgrade. The file sizes 4K produce are huge and the computer power needed to edit them is huge also. Btw LaFonte, future proofing and resale value don't feature in any companies camera products, why would they when they want people to upgrade every other year.
Akpinxit: According to comments , everybody were waiting for 4K video recorder with a touch-screen . After five years of debating about ISO noise , none mentions it now .
HowaboutRAW - 4K is a niche market right now. The content can't be provided when the technology to view it only exists as a few expensive 4K TV's. No consumer needs 4K in a dslr right now. Leave it to the film industry, who also have access to the computer processing power needed to deal with the massive 4K files.
jamesm007: The truth is APS dSLRs are what consumers want. They are still by a vast majority the top sellers in the USA. Only if you want a small camera with limited telephoto does mirrorless at this time have a buyer. Pros will use what ever format they can afford.
Simple, this camera could do sports, mirrorless not, this is a lower budget alternative with enough IQ to justify not buying FF in many areas. Mirrorless is still not a system for a PRO who shoots wildlife, weddings...
Moreover Full Frame never came down in price like people thought they would. APS bring lower lens price as well. At most large sized prints people want there would be no difference between FF and APS. APS equal FF of just a few years ago. IQ is becoming a non-factor. Not many westerners want a small camera that looks low cost and can't do telephoto.
'The truth is APS dSLRs are what consumers want'
I've read a lot of posts about what consumers want. They want every feature going like full frame, touch screen and 4K for the price of a 60D!
And $1799 for the 7D II (pre order on B&H) isn't exactly 'lower budget'.
jedy: I don't know why Canon cling onto the high end dslr aps-c camera, even with the sports and wildlife argument. Lots of photographers I know have either gone full frame or mirrorless rather than buying an expensive aps-c dslr. I do believe mirrorless cameras will improve and lens choices will get better and this seems more like the natural home for the aps-c sensor. Canon should be looking more seriously at mirrorless cameras as they are bound to threaten the dslr dominance as technology improves and more with full frame sensors appear. I'm sure there'll be plenty of gear whores eager to get their 'newer' and 'better' fix who will buy this though.
And 'D400 preachers' will be eager to get a 'newer and better' fix too!
Why do people want 4K? And on an aps-c??? Cinemas show films in 4K and there are probably only 2 people in the world with a 4K TV and that's it. For all the hassle with large file sizes and having to downgrade to HD for viewing on HD TV's and over the internet, 4K is pretty pointless right now. It would also push up the price of the camera. There is no practical reason for it outside of the film industry.
keeponkeepingon: Can someone give me a TLDR on how this compares to the sony A6000. Yeah I know the bodies don't compare for handling and EVF versus OVF but based on sheer rubber meets the road shooting specs?
I'm doing a quick snapsort and according to the (often prone to errors) spec list the A6000 has more AF points, faster burst speed and a larger viewfinder while the 7D Mk 2 is weather sealed, has a better lens selection an external mike input and ?????
That's true now but nathondetroit is right that mirrorless cameras will get better. Dslrs weren't great when they were first introduced.
I don't know why Canon cling onto the high end dslr aps-c camera, even with the sports and wildlife argument. Lots of photographers I know have either gone full frame or mirrorless rather than buying an expensive aps-c dslr. I do believe mirrorless cameras will improve and lens choices will get better and this seems more like the natural home for the aps-c sensor. Canon should be looking more seriously at mirrorless cameras as they are bound to threaten the dslr dominance as technology improves and more with full frame sensors appear. I'm sure there'll be plenty of gear whores eager to get their 'newer' and 'better' fix who will buy this though.
Looca: It will be enough that this lens gets as good as their old 50mm f1.4 (+USB dock compatibility and closer focus distance) and it will be world's best 50mm autofocus lens. Just like the previous one was. I removed my beloved Canon 50mm f1.4 from my bag as soon as I bought the old sigma 50mm, and I understood that I didn't know what is a good 50mm lenst before I got it. I will chose this thing over the already-famous overpriced and overrated Otus in an instant... life is too short to miss the moments while rolling a focus ring... really... Zeiss, hearing this? Anyone?Go Sigma. Bying this one as soon as it hits the shelves.
'life is too short to miss the moments while rolling a focus ring... really... Zeiss, hearing this? Anyone?'
Check out the photography of Robert Doisneau or Henri Cartier-Bresson (to name 2). They produced some stunning pictures with manual lenses.
Very disappointed when this was released. Thanks to the rumours, there was me thinking it was going to be a full frame mirrorless camera and instead we end up with another bulky dslr. I would love a smaller camera with a retro (read simpler) layout that doesn't require trawling through menus to setup for a shot. Whilst the layout is 'retro', this camera is just a dslr without video and wifi yet stupidly priced. If only Fujifilm made a full frame camera!
infiniti55: What an F-ing dissapointment that Canon and Nikon are for stooping so low to the point that their DSLR's are more geared up with video and have now begun to ditch actual useful features and opt for the video BS . Everyone is on this video bandwagon and it is getting stupid, I have a suggestion for the video guys.... Get a dedicated VIDEO CAMERA.
The main reason people are on this 'video bandwagon' is quite simply, cost. To get a dedecated video camera that gives you the quality and depth of field professional filmmakers require will cost tens of thousands whereas a DSLR plus several lenses will be significantly less. Since getting my DSLR, which I got primarily for photograpy btw, my film work has never looked so good.