ybizzle: The Nikon DF would be my pick. Classically styled, and gives you just what you need for photography. Video is so passé. Pure photography is what I am all about hence my love for film Leicas and the sort.
Ok, forget what said! You can not use Ai-S Nikkors with shutter priority mode (or program mode) on the D800, D4s etc., but you can neither on the Df. With the old FA, F-301 and F-501 I can. These Cameras are ca. 30 a old now. The only advantage the Df has is the compatibility with non-Ai lenses. how relevant is that?
If you have a collection of manual Nikkors, then you have more functionality with the Df than with any other Nikon camera. I think this might have been interessting for video too. But I am not a videographer. I have not tried on out yet. Some say the controlls are not so good. I don't know.
LJ - Eljot: The Arri Amira for 40000$ or the Photorito lens wrap for 20$? I can not decide, they are both awsome.
Don't have enough money for both! I have to decide.
robmanueb: Good on Nikon for leading the way with the DF, great to see Leica having the common sense to follow. Now if Nikon can build the mythical D400 without video and keep the price down, I would have all my previous faith in them validated.
I have no statistical basis, but I think for most of the Dfs buyers the lens compatibility was the main reason to choose it over other small picture cameras from Nikon.
The Arri Amira for 40000$ or the Photorito lens wrap for 20$? I can not decide, they are both awsome.
The Df has better compatibility with manual lenses than the D4. That it the whole point with this camera.
LJ - Eljot: I just wanted to preceed to ridicule this camera by suggesting to limit the metering mode to center weighted. But a quick look to the specs table told me that the reality is ahead my imagination once again.
Leica M (Typ 262) specifications: "metering mode | Center-weighted" Just scoll up and see for yourself!
electrophoto: @DPreviewHow can you "forget" the D750?Can be found for approx. 1600$ (new) these days - even on Amazon for under 2000$.It's an DSLR, it's full frame, has an excellent feature set, semi-pro body and high IQ... would compete lovely with Sony's offering or Canons..why include the D610 - when for not much more you can get something better?
Ok, now I found it: the MSRP of the Nikon D750 was $2299 when it was new. So for DPReview it does not fit the category. But the Manufacturer changed the recommended retail price to $1,899.95 wich falls in the category.
JakeB: Just wait a few months for the Fujifilm X-Pro 2 for a fraction of the price.
I even hear rumours the X-Pro 2 will have live view.
Ok, true. It is not a rangefinder camera.
LJ - Eljot: The E-PL1 is the only camera with optional EVF. That is sad.
I just can tell everybody how nice and usefull a viewfinder is. On a bright and sunny day it is very hard to see anything on the screen. Thats why I used this with my PEN E-P1:
And because the screen of the E-P1 has too low resolution and the lcdvf is very big I switched to the E-P2 with the attachable EVF. I like the VF-2 because it can be tilted. Then I switched to E-M5 and then added a E-M1. I really think the VF should be titalble in every camera with EVF.
Oh well! One that would not block the hotshoe in the middle and would be at the left side would be even more awsome.
Combatmedic870: If I were in the market to buy into a new mirrorless system right now. I would go with Fuji(like I did). They have by FAR the best lens line up. New bodies will come. Just like they always do. They is just no way to overlook their superior lens line up. They have nearly everything you could want except super telephoto(which is coming next year). Right now 12-230mm soon to be 12-400mm.
2016 will be a good Fuji year. New XPro, XT and XE models.
Fuji has no IBIS, yet. mFT has good lenses too. mFT and Fuji are looking most attractive to me.
(I had Olympus before Fuji came up with the X-System and because I buy most equipment used I will stick with mFT)
kodachromeguy: Does this new camera only have the sRGB colorspace? If so, that seems rather limiting to not have the option for Adobe RGB.
Fuji X PRO-1 is a rangefinder. Or it is kind of. They call it Hybrid Multi Finder. But look:
nikonusa.com lists the price for the D750 at $1,899.95. So it falls in this category.
I just wanted to preceed to ridicule this camera by suggesting to limit the metering mode to center weighted. But a quick look to the specs table told me that the reality is ahead my imagination once again.
It is not limiting. It is redeeming. It is a Leica.
bovverwonder: The omission of video and live view makes total sense. Back to the basics is what Leica is all about. I'm glad they came out with this camera and I hope they apply this concept to the next monochrom.
I think they should have omitted the jpeg engine too. Is it not much more exciting to wait until you have transfered your RAWs to an computer an converted them to see them on the big screen (apple for most leica users, I guess) for the first time? That is more the classic experience leica shooters are looking for.
LJ - Eljot: Can someone describe in wich way the lack of live view makes a camera cheaper?
Well, I have my guesses. But most of them are not really in the favor of Leica or their costomers.
Can someone describe in wich way the lack of live view makes a camera cheaper?
legokangpalla: For all those who complain about lack of viewfinder and outdoor visibility...Get an aftermarket foldable lcd hood. I actually prefer this over viewfinder as I feel it offers better peripheral visibility and doesn't get in way of my glasses.
Oh no! I tried this one first beacause it is much cheaper than the LCDVF, but I was not worth even the small money. It did not help at all. It made it even worse. It has a protective "glass" made of PVC that reflected much more than the screen itself. I had to break it out of the frame. Then I had to hold the camera higher to see the screen. It provided not as much shadow to the screen as one may expect and then it broke after some time of use. No recommendation.