IvanM: I must say as a Canon user I am mightily unimpressed with the pedestrian if not downright insulting Raw performance of the G5X !
Just like the G3x which initially looked quite attractive but the 1 frame per second raw shooting just like the G5X crossed that off my list immediately...
Are these cameras deliberately handicapped or not?
I see it this way too... but obviously we're missing something...
Sidath, it's a good point. Since I don't know precisely the processing pipeline and where the bottleneck is, it's difficult to be more specific.Also, we don't know anything about the Digic 6 architecture... maybe there's significant changes between versions, but sold with the same commercial name?
In the same way, why the G5X can process less than 1fps in raw while he can do 5.9fps in jpeg (x6 more) ?In the end the raw file is only +/-3 times bigger (see imaging ressources samples).
yes, and the A77II still have 20% more MP to process (24mp vs. 20mp) ! :-/
sailorman: Five Canon models - but no room for a single Nikon camera ?
What am I missing ?
There's no nikon camera in this range...The only one could be the P340 wich is 2 years and half old.
Fotoke: Canon S120 is included, but Panasonic DMC-LF1 is not? Why?
Both S120 and LF1 were in the high-end pocketable compacts roundup last year. The LF1 was even chosen as best affordable high-end pocketable camera. It offers more zoom than the S120. It's still available.
You're right, I messed up with XZ10.My bad.
Because the LF1 have an even smaller sensor.Wich somewhat exclude it from this category now 1" sensors are "the norm".
No, it's not to protect their DSLR lineup... There's a technical reason behind this.
Canon jumped lately into the 1" wagon, purchasing sensors from Sony. The G line went straight from 12 to 20mp and the Digic 6 (in his compact body version) was not powerfull enough... it's as simple as that.Remenber that the 7DII is 20mp too, and fast... but it's equipped with 2 Digic 6 processors.
Hence the poor reactivity in raw, limited tracking capabilities and limited battery life on the whole Canon 1" lineI suspect a quite "old" lithography process, wich means power hungry, just as older processors on smartphones or PC.
We'll have to wait for Digic 7 to see any improvement on this topic.
Everlast66: It looks like they continue their fruitless and stubborn search for a PROBLEM for their solution!
In the real market this can only lead to one thing - repeated loss of their investors' money.
First they had two unsuccessful attempts in the stills camera business, now it is video, next is, maybe, self-driving-cars, and on and on ...
No pain, No gain! Especially when you devellop a new tech from scratch.But you should try to think wider than our photography microcosm in order to see full potential of this new tech... see SeeRoy comment above.
GoneMirrorless: Sales down. Last time they said sales were up but quoted 'value' instead of units sold to hide the lower sales. (they were selling more A7 cameras and fewer APSC and P&S) Looks like they are still doing this. They made a smart move to mirrorless FF where there is virtually no competition, and are selling cameras and lenses at high prices for good profits. But at the same time they've been dumping APSC and P&S at low prices and somehow sales are still down."continued shift toward higher value models " - So rumors about Sony moving away form APSC seem to be true. It might another year before it is completely abandoned, but that has been the direction for two years now, and every press release and statement from management backs it.The goal is to be more profitable and moving to FF and dropping APSC (they'll keep RX) is what is working.
"higher value" dosen't mean "bigger sensor"... Sony still have to release a competitor for high-end APSC reflex (namely 7DII). And no, A6000 is not that.
AbrasiveReducer: This seems to address all the issues with DSLRs. They're too big, they're too heavy and they're too expensive. At last, these problems have been solved.
"and priced around the D4s with basically the same performance"
You saw that the 11fps announced are without Af right?
Now you see why other manufacturers stopped to craft their bodies milling plain aluminium blocks....
Despite all the BS marketing, cast magnesium alloy is much more versatile for design, lighter AND stronger too...
But, yes, to pay the mold you have to sell more than 150 bodies...
scrup: Some of the comments are hilarious. Probably mostly from old folks who don't understand how the internet works.
If someone wants your image, it will be taken one way or another. If you don't want it stolen, don't post it online.
Its unfortunate that technology has progressed and some people lost their earning capacity but that's life. Adapt or Perish. Happens in all industries.
So...this means that all those proprietary files formats (.cr2 ,.nef, etc.) are base on a standard compression method?So manufactuers "closed" them on purpose... for what?? :(
thejohnnerparty: This new image processing and senor technology looks very promising. If it lives up to the promise, how are small senor P&S cameras going to survive?
They won't! In fact they are allready dead if you look at the market data and manufacturer products range.
Manufacturer are now focused on :- rugged compacts (waterproof/shockproof) with zoom- compact long travelzoom with more and more "expert" features (HX90/sony : 24-720mm with evf, still pocketable)- long-zoom "all-in-one" AKA bridges. Demand is still strong for cheap and very long zoom (nikon P900). But also for more versatile ones (shorter range/brighter lens) like FZ200/300 or olympus stylus 1.- "experts" when you look for better image quality and more complete photo/video features. Sony leading the bunch with RX100's and RX10's but followed by Pana and Canon (at least).
IMHO, it's a good evolution because :- hundreds of similar, low-end cameras was a non-sense- manufacturer's working hard to pack more features and quality inside versatiles compacts, and I like this type of cameras.
iAPX: This will probably not translate in better photos, but probably in less mediocre videos.
But as usually will the optics deliver enough resolution for the sensor, without too much aberration/distortion/vignetting/etc? I don't think so, and it will be "corrected" by the ISP, that is not a solution for anything else than web viewing.
Will the screen be correctly calibrated with great color rendition and dynamic? Don't think so except on high-end.
As usually, will die for a 3MP to 6MP sensor with a quality lens, no magical software, and great display. Says 4MP sensor instead 16MP+ sensor, prime 35mm f/1.4 equivalent lens, QHD screen over 5", to be a great photographic bloc-note.
And good RAW processing software as a bonus, to sort, edit ad minima, and sync photos on different community website simultaneously and automagically (facebook, twitter, flickr, 500px, dpreview; name it!). Maybe with LightRoom compatibility?
HTC tried it with their 4mp "ultrapixel" camera.In the end, very few improvement over 10/12+MP sensors in low light but less details in bright light.
To be interesting, those low-res sensors have to provide way bigger photosites (like A7S). It doesn't work on small sensors... unless you want VGA resolution only.
nunatak: in theory, this has to be one of the best weatherproof digital compacts to date. while sensor size may be a concern to some, the other thing not addressed is it's fore~bearer's frequent tendency to fog up.
olympus and other manufacturers have the tech to build argon/nitrogen filled lens units which _are_ hermetically sealed to eliminate fogging. perhaps at this price point it's not feasible to "fog proof" — but until it is the issue remains a barrier to obtaining a true weatherproof camera. =:-/
There's an easiest way : keep only very dry air inside your camera.- downloading images : wifi / eye-fi type SD card- battery charging : use an external charger to swap batteries in less than 15s- from time to time, replace the battery by a silicate gel bag during the night
Dry air inside : no fog on the front élement/screen.
Angrymagpie: Would you be able to have the camera turn on to a specific focal length every time? Or do I need to manually adjust that after powering on? 24mm is a lot less useful to me than 35mm so it'd be great if the camera can be set to 35mm
Yes, that's exactly the point of MR modes.
Greg Gebhardt: No Apple OS, no deal. Who cares about that thin.
you mean you want to work with your tablet, not only read news and play games with an expensive but limited-on-purpose toy?I think i can undestand exactly what you mean, Ipads are so frustrating. And just because of marketing choices.Different devices for different users, I guess...
Still no touch screen for quick and precise focus selection? That's a bit odd...
For a "3 years old" photographer, you had a very steep learning curve!Your enthusiasm and dedication surely help here.I wish I could show some pictures as good as yours.Congrats, really!
Al de Wet: Why should I consider this? Panasonic offer the FZ 200 and the FZ 1000 which seem to be better?
FZ200 is no better. It offer a longer range, true, but nothing more.Stylus 1s has a bit bigger sensor, much better evf, magnesium body, beter defined touch screen and built-in wifi.It's also smaller when turned off.
FZ1000, in the other hand, is another beast : much bigger but with better sensor and longer range. So, yes, the stylus 1s is a bit pricey compared with FZ1000