PK24X36NOW: All this discussion is premature - you need to wait for all those lenses to be tested on the D800E as opposed to the D800, since the DxO perceptual megapixel scores for the D800E are MUCH higher than for the D800, for whatever reason. (Seems the D800 is penalized for its OLPF far more than it should be.) If you look at the older Tamron 70-200 f2.8 (tested on both the D800 and D800E, AND the Canon EOS 5DIII in Canon mount), which is about as good a "cross platform" comparison as you're going to get, it shakes out like this: EOS 5DIII @ 14PMP, D800 @ 15PMP, D800E @ 21PMP.
You can also look at IR comparometer to get a feel for the difference between the D800/E and the 5DIII - 36MP definitely holds a significant advantage over 22MP.
Yabokkie you are very wrong, d800e gives you more information, but with false color information too.
Nikonworks: It seems that DPReview took my advice about 'Real World' samples.This series is very helpful in seeing the capability of the D7100.
These are really good, useful 'Real World' sample images.
zinedi: Great camera - not only for IQ equalizing the FF quality in compact size, but also for handling comfort - Fuji is listening to PHOTOGRAPHERS not consumers - and classic range-finder style. Looking forward to hold my copy.
@_Federico_ You probably don't know that x-trans uses a diferent bayer, the size is only comparable when using the same technology. People probably is not paying atention that mot of the images are over 2000 iso. This camera is clearly much better than any aps-c sensor out there, no questioning. FF IQ, yes i have a d700 the limitation here i think is the quality of the lens.
Roland Karlsson: Ah! Its because they are B&W they are called a-chromatic, i.e. without color. Its a kind of joke. Hmmm .. I hope the real product is more serious :)
Actually, this increases the want to have factor. Ehhhhh ... but I think its hard to convince my wife that I want one B&W, one in color and some lenses and a body.
As any other sensor, thats why they all have IR filter...
Did you guy really looked at the files? I am the only one who thinks the noise is just too much? Every image for me is just washed by the color noise, no fine detail and the lens is just soft. I have my nex 3 and i do think it has the same softness. I will wait for the raws, but something is not right...
jpr2: NO, I'd not buy FF as replacement for my 7d = APS-C offers a crucial reach advantage over FF when one is uising longer FLs lenses; Canon's decision to abandon APS-H format in their Pro-line is a huge mistake from the point of view of wildlife/action shooters !!
(nikon) DX lenses on a FX body, when the sensor has the same pixel density as the dx body, is the same as using and dx body. The price question, as more they do FFs, the price will low, there will be no need for and aps-c sensor on a DSLR.Sorry guys but cost/speed will just get the space on the FF market.We have aps-c and ff until now because they wanted us to pay much more for the FF, as the price competion goes the FF will be standard again as in film eras.
kk123: I keep my D3S.
And I am still waiting for the D400:Lightweight DX 18MP8fps without battery packageBuilt-in GPSFaster AF than D300/s
Why not a FF with theses specs?
deniz erdem: why do sony jpeg always have that blotchy look to them? i know the raw files are probably very impressive but why sony? why dont you have good jpegs?
I htink the best jpeg output now is from Fuji...
WOW, so many bad photos!ISO 3200 very good noise performance!
Panasonicus: Wow, that was fast--Nikon only just announced a "cheap" FX a few days ago and here is the response! It seems to me that here is a shift going on in the market that may lead to the demise of DX. I downsized to a DSLE to save weight and size due to travel restrictions on luggage and because I like to travel lite. The new crop of super small DSLE's seem to be as good as DX format but with all the advantages of size, weight, better movie capability. They look like DSLRs and the built in EVF makes them vastly superior to EVILs where the VF is a costly and much needed ad on. If I wanted a larger camera again I would go for one of these--full frame, big viewfinder (almost as good as my Panasonic G3 which is monster big compared with my old Canon 450d) and access to all those cheap older lenses on ebay etc. The prices of FX will drop as proliferation kicks in. So, DX may be on the way out as the market moves up to FX and down to Micro 2/3rds--the piggy in the middle is redundant.
Why you don`t?The diference is just abut size of the sensor and the camera, aps-c useful for birds?Any FF hás a crop mode this makes it a aps-c size, you loose resolution but have better iso. aps-c DSLRs are faded to death.Aps-c exist to diferentiate them to FF and make the FF sound something pro and expensive. The tech is here theres no reason to pay so much more for a bigger sensor.
Sergeg: It will be interesting to see if the lower pixel density will result in improved low light performance. The uncompressed HDMI output is a real plus for those who shoot serious video and DX compatibility is also welcome. Well done Nikon, time to come home from the wilderness.
The question is lower pixel density is equal to a better low light performance? The answer is YES. There are other factores that can influence low light performance too? YES.If the question was this camera will have better low light than D800? Probably yes, same tech was applied.An old lower density sensor can be better low light capabilitythen a actual high density camera?D3s is actualy better then D4. So the most important factor until today for low light performance remains the pixel density.
Tape5: RX1 is a no brainer as it enters an empty playing field.
A99 is entering fierce battlefield. It would be good for Sony to do their pricing a bit more competitively.
Nikon removes the AA in 800E to just squeeze a few more photons in.....Sony sends 30% of them to the roof.....
We have to wait and see this video advantage when camera is released.
I don't understand sony...I thought the mirror one up and down but as see the mirror is FIXED!
WOWOWOW very good ones, lets see how they perform!
Anybody noticed that even in the Hybrid mode the mirror moves?So probably in the EOS-M it will be much faster, as the nikon 1, and probably the new NEX 5R.I guess that sony, panasonic and olympus, have much better contrast detection than canon or nikon, so i hope when one of them put this hybrid to work, they will succeed.But one thing that these videos don't show is the accuracy difference, i think working togheter the accuracy will be always better, with hybrid AF.
Ganondorf: WOW that is totally not very interesting
I really had a good time with the Ganondorfs comment. =D
Nikon, what are you doing?Too much pride?New lenses new cameras with too much problems and only now accepting that have problems.Soon as Fuji make better auto focus i will give a chance to them.Why bother put this firmware updates when the j2 is about to sell with almost the same specs? Only new lcd display, better it not be green as my friend d800, that you deny that fact... and my D7000 that suddenly without any reason stops working with a error and i have to wait until it suddenly stars to work again...back focusing, front focusing...Very upset here. No Nikon didn't gave me a new d7000 neither resolved my problem, they said my camera was perfect...
WOOOW samsung again copying sony!
I really like what pentax is doing with that 16Mp sensor!I hope to put my hands on one K30 and k5 to see the diference in handling.Today i'm using D7000 that i don't feel very confortable with one hand...This pentaxs seems to be better!
Marcelobtp: I do understand what Leica is... And thats the reason why it still alive nowadays.First they achived the status, of a top branch, they always sold with that fame, and they will keep their place until the end.The price is a diferenciacion of the rest and an auto marketing. They have their audience to sell, and will always have.This camera is amazing, because you can expand your photography to another level. The B&W is an exercise for your eyes and your mind. You change your vision about the light and it's effects on the many diferent surfaces.Be able to take excelent photos at 10.000 ISO without the filter and the other things is just fantastic!If i were rich probably after seeing good reviews i would by this camera!
No, you did not understand at all, the range finder is in B&W you see B&W, and fuji X-pro is completely a diferent experience and you will have to use the live view mode. Fuji has no low pass filter but is not nearly the same thing...
I do understand what Leica is... And thats the reason why it still alive nowadays.First they achived the status, of a top branch, they always sold with that fame, and they will keep their place until the end.The price is a diferenciacion of the rest and an auto marketing. They have their audience to sell, and will always have.This camera is amazing, because you can expand your photography to another level. The B&W is an exercise for your eyes and your mind. You change your vision about the light and it's effects on the many diferent surfaces.Be able to take excelent photos at 10.000 ISO without the filter and the other things is just fantastic!If i were rich probably after seeing good reviews i would by this camera!