groucher: This is a classic compromise - a fully featured camera (except for video) in a retro body. A shrink wrapped but cluttered D4. I'm hoping that this is the first in a series of Dfs and that eventually we'll have a Dfm with no rear screen, no PAS and no wired or wireless connectivity - a true uncluttered digital FM (or FE).
Underneath all the controls, thumbwheels and displays the Fd looks pretty good.
@groucherYour Dfm wish specs sound like it would cost even more than this Df already does.
kevin_r: This is a lens Sony users have been shouting for for a long time but now Sigma has gone greedy and removed the OS. Which means that a whole market segment that wants to use this lens on the FE or Nex E mounts with LA adapters will have no stabilisation.
Perhaps they should simply bolt on an FE mount with stabilisation and watch it take off. It'll give the 24-70mm f/4 Zeiss a fair thrashing since that lens is priced at $1000.00.
"Sigma has gone greedy and removed the OS"
Sony decided to make a full-frame E-mount camera without IBIS, and you're blaming Sigma?
Donnie G: The top of the line Olys and Panas have much more to fear from these new Sonys, (especially the A7), than any current mid level DSLR. It'll be interesting to see what happens to 4/3s system cameras if the new Sonys prove to be popular. Will the A7 kill off Olympus in 2014? Will Sony's camera division turn a profit in 2014? Will the Chicago Cubs win the World Series in 2014? (Ok, maybe that last remark was a bit much), but you get the idea. Speculation is futile. We need answers that only time can tell us. :)
Yes, Sony appears to have a medical imaging portfolio (I found their online medical imaging catalog via Google), but the product lineup does not seem to be anywhere near that of Olympus'. I am aware of Sony's financial issues, but that's precisely why it makes a lot of sense to compete against, then buyout, Olympus.
With an acquisition, Sony would jump to the top of the medical imaging industry by proxy (i.e. "Olympus, a Sony company") and completely own all of Olympus' imaging-related patents (as opposed to their current, limited patent-sharing agreement). Gaining a significant foothold of the m4/3 market would be a side-benefit.
As they've already done this kind of thing twice before (with Konica Minolta and Ericsson), it's not out of the realm of possibility that they'll aim to buy Olympus primarily for their med-tech.
Though, such a strategy would hinge not on the success of the A7 and A7R, but on the success of the PS4 (which releases next month).
@pdeluxReally? You don't believe it's in Sony's best interest to compete against Olympus in order to drive down the price of a future Olympus acquisition?
Seehund: Is there a technical reason for the inability to use movie mode and WiFi simultaneously? If not, can we expect a firmware update that addresses this issue?
Yes, there is: Wi-Fi is slow.
It's barely fast enough to transmit a full-size JPG in seconds, but nowhere near fast enough for RAW. The lag of Live View for stills is already noticeable, rendering wireless video streaming completely unusable.
ProfHankD: I really don't much care about PDAF. In fact, I usually prefer manual focus with peaking. However, I'm impressed to see that Canon's dual pixel structure doesn't seem to have sacrificed IQ for PDAF. According to both DxOMark and the DPReview sample images, this sensor is a significant improvement over the sensor in, for example, the 100D or 700D. It still has a half stop less dynamic range, but it's the first 1.6X crop sensor Canon has made that doesn't get trashed by the 1.5X crop one in the Sony NEX-5.
DPReview says the 70D competes with Canon's FF -- I cannot agree. The Sony NEX-7 outperforms the 6D at low ISO and looses to it at high ISO, but 6D IQ is always better than the 70D in color depth, dynamic range, and low light. Still, the 70D proves that Canon's dual pixels are a viable approach, competitive in APS-C IQ while incorporating a useful new capability. Now if only Canon would give us direct access to the 40M half-pixels.... ;-)
@ProfHankDCould a 20MP stereo pair be used to create a single 20MP 3D photo?
red fuji: In engineering, we call the D610 a 'reworked' D600. The word 'improvement' should be reserved for new models replacing older models. The D610 exists because of the D600 flaw. I dont know how Nikon could get away with this marketing move. Nikon really should have recalled all the troubled D600.
@photoreddiExcept Zigmont mentioned the -P- 7000 - the CoolPix, not the DSLR.
falconeyes: 0.01 lux is -8 EV.
I heavily doubt it was this dark, as it would correspond be about a moonless starry night. But the fireflies then would illuminate the scenery (or their direct surrounding at least) as main light source and I didn't notice the effect in the video.
Anyway, while dark, -8 EV corresponds to (F/1.4, 1/24s) ISO 1,200,000. I saw extreme noise at 640px web resolution. Scaling web resolution to full 24 MP resolution, the would be the screen pixel noise (24MP) at ISO 14,000. I'd say a normal full frame 24MP dSLR doesn't have this much pixel noise at ISO 14,000.
Therefore, I conclude that the demo shown by Canon is technically lame, more of a marketing gig than anything else.
@falconeyesPerhaps you were distracted by the marketing text in the center of the frame, but the scenes at 0:09-0:15 was of the night sky, precisely to show that this video was taken during a "moonless, starry night."
SeeRoy: Why doesn't one of the manufacturers release something with overall improvements in IQ (bigger sensor, faster lens etc) keeping the size down by eliminating the LCD screen?
Apart from setup (and the chumps who chimp all the time) I think many people would trade it for overall performance gains if the essential functions were externally accessible and setup could be done via an EVF. After all, there are plenty of overpriced cameras out there lacking a viewfinder - which many of us find indispensable.
Still, adding an EVF to cameras in this sector: about bl00dy time too.
@SeeRoyWhat is the point of a digital compact that can't be used to show the photo it just took?
howardroark: If Mario Andretti drove somewhere in a Civic would there have been an article about it?
Not sure about Andretti, but back in 2007 there were a handful of articles about Michael Schumacher driving a taxi.
whtchocla7e: Nice photos. The question is why?Just because he can? Is that a noble motivation?
"Because it's there." - Sir George Mallory, mountaineering pioneer, when asked why he wanted to climb Mount Everest in 1923
Imagine how much of human advancement would not exist today if people always needed a noble goal before they tried something.
Mike, I have a couple of questions:
1) Would you consider the Transcend an adequate solution for a non-professional just taking casual photos during a hobby event (say, something like Comic Con) to transfer to a tablet for immediate viewing by the subject?
2) Were you able to determine which solution used up battery power more, or did you find yourself filling up the card well before running out of power?
Thanks in advance.
Neodp: The problem:
The Sony SEL35F18 35mm f/1.8 Prime is going for the lowest, *USED* price, of $400. This is the most, recommended lens, and for (wise) prime users.
So much for affordability. There are much better lenses; for much less. This, barely, incrementally smaller system size just costs too much. It's no value buy. Then there's lens selection. Now, if the E lens prices dropped....
Plus, as far as fun adapter mania, you should know, some systems use fun, high quality, inexpensive, old lenses; without needing any adapters.
@NeodpThat isn't a problem. Another characteristic of the target market for this camera is that they don't buy a second lens at all.
Timmbits: Definitely a smart marketing move on Sony's part - having a price-killer entry-level that gives you an upgrade path by keeping the lenses.
At first (as in my comment under the product announcement) I thought this might also compete with the NX20/NX30 and be a new option for mirrorless Sony fans not satisfied with the NEX ergonomics, but I see now that it is positioned lower-end - with it's low res screen and cheap feel to it. That doesn't mean I wouldn't recommend it to the masses and those looking to finally replace their film DSLR with a casual use (pretending-I-know-what-I'm-doing) replacement well suited to their needs (D3200 and Rebel turf).
I totally agree with DPR's view that this is a great alternative to small sensor P&S cameras and the intended target market.
"MADE IN CHINA" I suppose...
@TrojMacReadyLogical conclusion: there will be better and more expensive E-mount Alphas in the future.
Clyde Thomas: So why is this (or NEX) considered an Alpha?
Different menu and battery. And there is more than one smart adapter for lenses. Get AF adapter for Canon EF and Contax G now. Manual adapters for anything.
What makes this an Alpha?
My guess is the shape.
It looks like Sony will be going with NEX branding for cameras that use the current NEX shape, while using the Alpha branding for cameras that use the DSLR shape.
tabloid: Having a look on google...it seems that only Canon make STM lenses.
Come on Sigma etc get your finger out.
Maybe not for a few years. While stepper motor technology certainly isn't proprietary, their specific use as autofocus motors in camera lenses is patented by Canon.
5inchfloppy: I think there's a typo? In the article it states:
"Full-time manual focus is available in AF mode."
But in the table below, Full time manual is listed as 'No'.
That's technically correct, due to how FTM works for Canon's STM focus-by-wire lenses. With STM lenses, the user needs to half-press the shutter before the focus motor will respond to any motion of the focus ring. It's kind of like stepping on the clutch pedal of a manual transmission car in order to change gears.
biancmb: Why should still photographers be penalized by new technology? A new camera should take better pictures. Stills. They should make specific models for video. All manufacturers are just trying to make more money by targeting average users. Just admit it. Semi-pros and pros are being left behind. Most people do not even know what DOF is and cannot even use manual focus...
@biancmbActually, there is a significant number of semi-pro and pro stills photographers not being left behind by advances in DSLR video technology.
You can easily find them...
...on Youtube, Vimeo, Lynda.com and Kelby Training.
Mikhail Tal: Why is Andy Westlake reviewing some obscure gadget that is going to interest a tiny group of people, instead of one of the overdue mirrorless camera reviews like GF6, G6, NEX-5R, NEX-3N, E-PL5, etc? Obviously this is somewhat shorter than a camera review but it seems very strange to prioritize a niche product over a camera with much broader appeal, especially on DPR.
Real Photographers are people who take photos.
Real "Photographers" (intentional quotation marks) are people who demand a free-access website to provide reviews of cameras these "photographers" have already predetermined should be "80%+, Gold Award" and are just looking for an excuse to say either "good, unbiased review" if the result matches their expectations, and "obviously biased to Canon/Nikon" if the result does not.
marike6: The problem with cameras like the SL1 receiving a Gold Award because of the "suitable for the target entry-level user" argument is that DPR has traditionally been a website for enthusiasts who mostly would like to see the Gold Award reserved for the very best performing cameras. Such a loose definition of criteria for the Gold Award kind of cheapens it. And the third problem is it calls into question the thinking behind truly deserving class leading or revolutionary cameras like the Nikon D7000 and Sony RX100 getting only Silver Awards.
This is a nice camera, and as a DSLR fan I happy it's doing well, but because it uses older sensor technology, I don't feel it's the absolute cream of the crop. The new 70D may be, but the SL1 is essentially a smaller Rebel with an even smaller 95% VF view and more shallow grip.
@NCB: But the real world IS like that.
Airlines have "business class" versus "economy class" seating, despite the fact that passengers in each class will be going to the same place.
Economists and statisticians regularly use terms like "the middle-class" and "the Western market" to segregate population-based data.
Technical merits (i.e. "stick to what a camera does") don't drive business stratification. It's the other way around.