Bought my daughter a Canon D20 on sale a year ago and she absolutely loves it. I owned the classic A70 Canon point and shoot all those years ago and what a great little camera that was. Then the Canon IQ really went south. Happy to say the D20 is a very welcome return to that "pleasing" look with a very high keeper rate.
IQ is the thing for me so I'd go D30 although no WiFi is a big oversight.
RichRMA: Annoying, Apple-like, 20-something hipsterism.
What's your damage?
Stick a phone in it already!…:)I mostly shoot with a lovely ILC mirror less and have never paid much mind to the tuff cameras [except to wonder why they didn't just put a phone in there and be done with it?] until I bought one for my 10 year old daughter.We bought a cheap 'n cheerful little Canon D20 and it's been a great little camera. Reliable exposures in all sorts of conditions including underwater and nice colour representation. When I tried years ago to replace my trusty Canon A70 3.5 megapixel point and shoot I was really disappointed with how the newer Canon models performed. The little D20s images are a welcome return to that vibe. Lotsa keepers.
Jaythomasni: See where is Apple searching..in the back doors of Tokyo and Taiwan..This is called poaching for Japanese talents...Many Western companies are doing it lately ..Computer panels. .Microsoft surface makers are all Japanese or Asian engineers.They will get some one with money...With all fanfare of apple phone phone and camera..all internals are sony or some Taiwanese company..made in China...market as their product.
This poaching business is really spoiling the traditional legendary camera makers and their business..Fact is Japanese craftsmanship and engineering is superior none can build one by poaching.why poach let the Japanese companies survive with their skills.. they survive not by hi fi English speaking business men..but by pure talent..please don't buy the whole electronic industry..leave them alone..... do what you are good at...software...leave the hardware to the people who are good at it and don't spoil their heritage ,
Whatcha smokin' there Jay?!
digitallollygag: All of these "clip-on" gadgets are a compromise. Why won't Apple simply make a digital camera first that also happens to be a smartphone second, as an OPTION to the iPhone device we use now? Then they'd once and for all beat Canon and Nikon at their own game since those two are not particularly cutting-edge with connectivity...
Because you know like….Apple are like really crap and people only buy them because their Apple and yeah…like they're really bad and they're like lemmings and they all just are like really bad and…Apple are really terrible and anyway everyone says so. So there. Apple.
rfsIII: LOVE IT! Who does not want an inexpensive, fun camera that will make people smile when you hold it up to take their pictures. (One thing... I'm pretty sure that there are no more hipsters. That was a mid-century Brooklyn thing when Brooklyn was still a cheap and scary place. Brooklyn is now full of ex-husbands and middle management DBs. The cool people have moved to Queens.)
Just looking at it screams kids not Hipsters? Pre Smartphone kids. PSK! I think I just coined a demographic?!
cmvsm: Looks great. Smart phones are getting very close to regular digital camera quality for travel photography. I see more and more people wondering why they are lugging their DSLR's around. You may not get the same DOF or low light performance that you get with a DSLR, but the compact trade off can be worth it.
At it's core - it's essence, photography IS about light. Most painters will say the same about painting. Someone else wrote here to some whining pixel peeper - "go find some light". The point is that decent or interesting light will make almost any technical argument mute. Almost…:) Yes stellar optics will get a "better" result in a given situation but the point of mobile photography is about capturing truly random opportunity which despite the irrational protestations of so many is now very possible in very pleasing ways with smartphone cameras…provided you know where to find the light…:)
jcmarfilph: If you really want to shoot using smartphone, don't force yourself or just eat your pride and buy pureview phones and not an overpriced mediocre iPhones.
Why do you bother? Seriously why? Are you on a righteous crusade to save the world from evil? Go stink up someone else's forum.
Need to watch out for termites
Peter Bendheim: This should do the haters proud. There is the blind hatred of Apple coupled with an equally obsessive dislike of Leica. It will be a case of one plus one equals 5. I don't understand the hatred - Apple created unique products which have really changed the way we live with technology - not just pretty designs. Leica made a camera some 90 years ago which changed photography from bulky cameras to 35mm.Why do so many people hide behind anonymous names and spew such hatred and venom...because products designed by Leica and Apple are recognised by most books on industrial design as important in the history of design. You display your own narrow mindedness and ignorance of modern industrial design.I wish I understood what it is about iconic products that bring out all the hatred and resentment in people, so unnecessary especially given that this is a once off project to raise funds for HIV/AIDS (and at least two people are unable to even comprehend that there is only one camera and not 500)
It reminds me a bit of the 70's Agfamatic 110 film cameras.They were a beautiful object complete with braided stainless steel strap but my crappy and rickety little Fuji 110 [my first camera] kicked it's ass...:)
Greg VdB: Love or hate the design, but it's for charity, so who cares as long as it does the trick of garnering money and exposure for the good cause!
Unfortunately though, judging by the comments, nobody seems to think twice about that aspect. In fact, the cynical side of me can't help but think that neither did the designers - for them it's most probably just another way to get exposure for themselves/their companies... Makes me think of something Jay Leno once said: "In America, we like everyone to know about the good work we're doing anonymously". But well, let's just hope that there's some crazy rich people around that will gladly part with heaps of money so that some people can be helped...
Please. Don't pretend your somehow righteous. Your all about bagging people who missed the good cause thing but the designers who put time in for the cause are attention seeking mercenaries? You don't have a "cynical side". You have a douche nozzle side.
Richard Franiec: Another form over function abortion.First, Sigma wooden edition, then K-01 then Hassy Lunar now this. Is this some sort of disease or attempts to make square wheel working?
Not as ugly as your comment
falconeyes: From the image, the lens would be no more than a 1.8mm aperture. Which is only half the 3.3mm of the Nokia 808's lens, the current smartphone class leader. Therefore, this new device can only capture 1/4 the light of the class leader and won't be that interesting.
Do you mean smartphone camera leader or smartphone leader?
Henrik Herranen: "Apple’s iPhone line arguably launched both the mass-market smartphone era and the practice of what we now call mobile photography."
This might have been true in the United States, the only market in the world where Nokia wasn't dominant when Apple's first smartphone launched. Everywhere else Nokia mobile camera smartphones outsold Apple's iPhones until just two years ago, not to even speak of Nokia's camera featurephones and other manufacturers phones.
So yes, this claim is quite arguable.
I'm as critical of Apple as I am of any manufacturer and designer. They're in the game - they get criticism and the plaudits. Just as Nokia did in their heyday. Beautiful industrial design.
This discussion is about an editorial comment from DPR which in my opinion remains valid.
Blind worship - ignorance is more commonly expressed by the the serial malcontents who take issue with Apple because they're Apple. Moreover to demean other peoples valid enjoyment of a device because it's...what...popular? That the masses who embraced it are clueless aesthetes?
Long live great design - by anyone determined and talented enough to bring it to market.
I'm chilled. Where did I say Nokia didn't start mobile photography? I'm not making a claim on behalf of anyone...I'm making an observation based on the response of the market. As for learning history...I'm happy to let history speak for itself.
And were so good they are now owned by Microsoft?!?!A better camera does not a better phone make. Integration and interface to a PHONE is where Apple changed the game. Plenty have adapted and caught up since and for some surpassed. So be it. Until the next manufacturer changes the game - starting this game will be Apple's legacy.
I loved my Nokia candy bar phones...but let's get real. The is NOTHING misleading or inaccurate about DPRs comment. Nokia's foray into smartphones was an unmitigated disaster that took them from supremacy to the edge of oblivion. Apple started it. Get over it.
hellocrowley: Great techs, but the commercial made me cringe.
Aaaargg!?!? Why don't you droids get it? Just enjoy what you have and leave other people alone to enjoy what they want. YOU are the one with missing brain cells and a god almighty prejudice. GO AWAY!!!!
HarrieD7000: So much fuzz for these crappy pictures? I use a phone to make my calls and a camera to make pictures. These "tests" look to me as a cheap kind of advertisement. It is a pity DPR can't make more articles with real camera's.
Your in the wrong section. Go be a pain somewhere else
The samples pages really just prove that good light and decent composition are always more important than the gear. That said - Fuji does manage to achieve a distinct and great look to images that suit it's strengths. Bravo Fuji.