sports college... i guess. ;)
tamron 70-200mm f2.8 as sharp as canon 70-200mm f2.8 II ??? ... what a joke.
i returned the tamron after 5 days. on the long end the difference is very noticeable without the need for testcharts.
no way it comes close to the latest canon model.. DxO again.. no real world relevance.
Mikhail Tal: Isn't there a serious potential conflict of interests here? DPR reviews photography gear, and is now in the business of selling that same gear. How can we be sure that you do not give a product a more favorable review because you have a greater incentive to sell more of it compared to other products?
because they say so.. you either believe them or not.there is no way to prove it.
i worked for a print car magazine and it was usual that a car company could "buy" good/enhanced reviews.
the writers did not lie... they just did not write much about negative things.
Create Dont Imitate: So long everyone... taking this site off my favorites and canceling my membership.
I haven't been here long... but this site cant possibly be unbiased... if they are SELLING THE GEAR THEY ARE REVIEWING.
Good luck to everyone.
^^ don´t trust anyone if he wants your money. :)
it´salways good to be suspicious of intentions and agendas...
Gothmoth: beside the obvious conflict i think this undermines the credibility of dpreview even more.
it has suffered already when amazon bought the website,
i worked myself 4 years for a car magazin and i know how things work in such advertising based business.
if you want independed reviews you need someone who is independend.independend from money that comes from companys or through selling reviewed products.
unfortunately everyone wants to make money from blogs and websites these days....
well .... nobody can prove your telling the truth or you really know what your talking about. no offense, but that´s a fact.
as i wrote.. i spoke from my experiences working for print magazines. and you are not someone making the decisions at dpreview.. are you?you are just writer... correct? not management?
so you don´t know what is going on behind close doors... so much about "knowing".
really? you think people are naive enough to believe that amazon does not want more advertising space?please don´t think we are naive or even stupid.
amazon, like any other company, can never have ENOUGH advertising. why do you think they have a partner program just for that?
and please do a search about amazons tactics and how it uses all kind of gathered data for statistic purpose.
now again back to the instagram example. instagram was not worth 1 billion in any physical value and they barely made a profit.but the userbase was (maybe) worth 1 billion.
without the big userbase nobody would have payed 1 billion for instagram.not for such a simple and cheap product.
well but that´s not my problem, right? :)
to say it simple:
amazon did not buy dpreview because of it´s revenue.it bought dpreview because of US... the USER BASE dpreview has.
offtheback: No matter your level of integrity,it's very difficult to be thoroughly objective when money/your living is at stake.Best of luck.I very much like your site.
sorry .. but that´s a nice idea but in reality there are more things at work.
i know from my own experience and i guess everyone who worked a few years for print magazines knows the game.
why it was valuable?
i tell you: ADVERTISING!!
do you think instagram or nik software are worth 1 BILLION dollar?i mean in actuall VALUE, like we determined company value in the 80s... before the internet "virtual value" was created.
today it´s all about how many people you can reach with your advertising and gathering DATA.
Jim: Is this really Amazon in DPR clothing?
so you have your own storage?the stuff is not comming from one of the big amazon storehouses?
some of the comments are obviously not trolling as you answerd them.it´s confusing to follow a thread if you delete them after you answerd.
RichRMA: In the late 1980's a magazine called, "Astronomy" had an editor named Richard Berry. Berry was a straight-shooter and started to review telescopes and other astronomical products with a critical eye. This was a time when a lot of trash was being turned out because comet Halley's appearance was causing telescope makers to ramp up production and avoid proper testing. Berry said as much and shortly thereafter was relieved of duty of the magazine by the Board because he was slagging advertiser's products.
the car magazine i worked for had separat teams too... but we had ONE BOSS.
and what the BOSS said was law.
angrywhtman: Three words sum it up. Conflict of Interest
why was a comment removed barney replyed too?
yes i bet it is basically.
and i noticed that some replys are deleted from this thread.. looks like the staff is well aware that this is a sensitive thing for us users but they don´t want to hear it.
beside the obvious conflict i think this undermines the credibility of dpreview even more.
G7D: any insite into why they used 7Ds and teleconverters, why go up so high only to zoom in massively??
okay understanding the need to zoom for detail still confused how they got a wide angle at the same time multiple lenses?
autopano.. what else...
the best tool for panos...
markfocus: If Sony would drop the price to $1800 and the Viewfinder for $250 I think they'd sell a billion-million of these. At least to me :)
get a better job if you can´t afford it....
clochesfeuilles: The IQ results for this camera are confusing... compared to OM-D raw it seems to have one stop of chroma noise advantage and a softer lens that renders the 24 MP useless. On a camera of similar size, that you can't change the lens on, weak AF, and costs $900 more than an OM-D with a Zuiko 17/1.8 AND a Leica 25/1.4.
Am I missing something?
Obviously there is more to IQ than sharpness and noise, but is not this the main draw of a full-frame sensor? (Not a hater or a fanboy, just a fan of high-end compacts and manual controls... my favorite was the Panasonic LC-1/Digilux 2. Certainly you could do amazing stuff with an RX1.)
where are all these clueless people come from?
actually they taste not bad..... you have to remove most of the fat but then it´s a nice meal.
Stephan Def: Whats he talking about? Not just only the Sensor size matters but also the availability of reasonably priced Lenses.
If I would go Fullframe I would be looking at the category of 2000-4500€ and upwards for the full package with Lenses. With APSC I am comfortably below 1400€. That is a huge difference for the enthusiast hobbyist.
What does he mean with semi-pros go to FF in the future? He thinks all the enthusiast amateurs are going to Fullframe and pay prices like 2200-4500€ and more for their hobby?
I think he is making have baked statements that are not thought thru to the end. I could be wrong though and canon will reveal the lense-less camera.
kido.. learn to read.
with time and a bigger market share of FF cameras the lens price will go down.of course you have to take the global market and exchange rates into account.and it will happen over time not in a few month.