Timmbits: When you're a late entrant into this space, you'd better be offering something better than what is out there, or you're just inconsequential. Yet another 1/1.7" sensor... good grief! Fuji has been offering a 2/3" for years now, and Sony just came out with 1"... it's about time this category left the smaller sensors behind.
my pentax Q with 1/2.3" sensor (released 2011) produces much better image quality than my new Lumix LX7 with 1/1.7" sensor (released 2012). so I personally optimistic about this new MX-1 (maybe better than 1" sensor Sony RX-100?). stop thinking bigger is better. it is the technology that matters, not the size.
photo nuts: Great review.
Decent camera. Not as light as one hopes for the SLT design, but acceptable.
Took a peek at Sony store for some lenses... Ewwwww... far too limited. Cannot compare to the m43 arsenal, much less Canikon range.
Good effort. Try harder next time Sony, especially your lens department.
really, I never understand why many people complaining about some particular brand's lens line that has less than canon and nikon range. like they will buy all of the canikon lenses.
lens buying is based on our needs (unless for LBA people), and most of big brands already have lenses for various photography needs.
Sergey Borachev: K-5 had the best IQ for APS-C cameras. The closest was D7000. These 2 cameras were head and shoulders above others.
After 2 years, you would expect a big improvement, but what we see is in the K-5 II is next to nothing in the context of IQ improvement, when you realised that more and more cameras have essentially the same IQ. NEX-7 (which also has 24MP), and X-Pro1, X-E1 have arguably better IQ. NEX-5N, NEX-5R, and most likely the NEX-6, and some entry level DSLRS all have equivalent IQ. Then there are the E-M5, E-PL5, E-PM2 and GH3, and many more that have an IQ that is very close, but much more compact in size, not to mention significantly better features, e.g. AF.
What's the point?
my question is: what's your point? D7000 still has no improved successor, and so does 7D which is older (3 years). Pentax has done something good with those 2 cameras. and I'm sure that Pentax will release another high-end aps-c camera in early 2013. we'll see what's coming next year..
plevyadophy: FIRST IMAGE STABLISED MEDIUM FORMAT SYSTEM?
Am I mistaken, but doesn't this lens make the Pentax system the first image stabilized medium format digital system?
If so, that is quite significant and I am surprised that they haven't made more of that fact.
I tried it for a couple of photo sessions with 55mm F2.8 handheld. the weight doesn't much different than canikon FFs. much lighter than hasselblads.
BrightEyesOnFire: $4500 for a slow medium prime...LOL okay maybe like five people will buy it.
F2.8 on 645 body is like F1.8 on 35mm bodies. is it slow?
nicolaiecostel: So Pentax finally dropped the ball and introduced in-lens stabilisation. Oh dear, I can still hear fanboys explaining how much better it is to have sensor IS vs. lens IS.
IBIS is for aps-c bodies. 645D is a Medium Format body. the size of the image circle is different.
valtheWU: just when were all the menus designed?
1997, drunk, while playing on a NES?
i feel sorry for all the people useing this camera.
and yet i still admire niche players. i just wished pentax would use more of the polished ricoh UI.
one of the main reason I switched from Nikon to Pentax is for the simplicity of the menu.
Heie2: I find the 3 months it is taking to review this camera and the ensuing "trickle" of sections within a complete review (which gives none of these "installments" any substance and context) insulting - how many cameras have you guys reviewed in the mean time?
DPReview - Fair and Balanced, right?
don't forget 645D, announced sept 2010 and still not reviewed at this time. only a brief preview posted months ago..
ThomasH_always: My take is very, very simple, and consistent:
No RAW, no interest, no buy.No viewfinder, no interest, no buy.
Got that in Japan at last? You delivered a half of "must have" features, its a no buy.
This is typical comment of a beginner. I know many pro photogs who doesn't always shoot raw. No viewfinder? Meet the great Daido Moriyama!
Ross the Fidller: Oh No! Not another X camera! ;)
Actually, it looks like they're trying to attract people that couldn't afford the OM-D (silver model) with some identifiable similarities. Why not go with the 'look' if it helps sales. :)
Pentax is actually continuing it's tradition with silver bodies. This X5 reminds me of the famous MZ series back in 90s. Take a alook at this image:
cpkuntz: Why do they use 2 mp sensors? Robust build? The Apollo mission used Hasselblads. Why not get some medium format goodness on board one of these rovers?
Apollo used Hasselblad cam? it didn't. but the astronauts did. it was Hasselblad film camera. so they just need to take home the developed film and the processing be done on earth.
it's a different case now with Curious. it is a robot, equipped with digital cameras. it needs to transfer the image wirelessly via satelite to earth station and it needs time. so bigger MP means longer transfer time.
if Curious uses Hasselblad 60MP cam, then I bet it will take a month just to transfer one image :)
marike6: It's not a beautiful camera, but has a solid looking grip, a terrific Schneider lens, and a tilt/swivel screen - all great things. But I don't know why vendors have to write f1.4 or f1.8 like the XZ-1 or Full HD on the front of cameras. They aren't places for specs. Take a cue from the X10, still one of the prettiest P&Ss ever. No logos, no writing, nothing on the front. The top panel can have any little "Full HD" or "AVCHD" spec cues designers want, but with the front, the cleaner the better.
I'm totally agree with you. those writings are a mess, and ruin the look. but however, they want sales. and those writings sell a lot to consumers. and if possible, maybe they would put on some endorsements from dpreview or dxomark..
Peiasdf: Just checked out Pentax's lens line up and I cannot find a single fast normal prime. The cheapest "50mm" is 35mm f/2.4 at $180 while the fastest is 31mm f/1.8 at $1,000. Where is the cheap f/1.4~f/1.8?
Good cameras, weird ass lens line up.
there is 55mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.4 if you need fast normal lenses. you can get them at b&h or adorama. the new cheap 50mm f1.8 (exclusively designed for aps-c, so it is really normal lens for aps-c) will hit the shelf next month.
scott_mcleod: This looks like a great camera, especially for the price. My only disappointment is the small RAW buffer but that will only affect a tiny percentage of buyers (though with RAM being so cheap nowadays you can't help but wonder if buffer size is artifically "adjusted" to provide more model differentiation)
I also like the colors - they have an Imperial Stormtrooper version, how about olive drab, camo or day-glo orange? That would look way cool! :)
I'm sure the RAW buffer will be increased with the latter firmware update. just like it was with K5.
jsis: I honestly think that Canon and Nikon make better cameras, nobody uses a Pentax.
"nobody uses a Pentax" ?where do you live?? in where I live, even canon users change the mount of pentax lenses to eos, to be able to use them on their canon dslr.
I don't like the highlights.
I think it's bad dynamic range. yes the overall is good, but look at those blown out highlight range. my cheap Kr can do better than this.
many of well known professional photographers I know are moving to 35mm format recently. those MF digital backs are way too high above the cloud..
this is very cool.. !
while I'm okay with every news about video/cinematography announced here, I will suggest dpreview to change it's name to dcreview (digital camera review) or direview (digital imaging review). serioulsy.. there no boundaries now between photography and cinematography in terms of equipment.