brownie314: I am baffled why Tokina would go after this segment of the lens market. The 70-200 f/4 lens is covered in almost every mount by they body manufacturers. Why not refresh the 50-135 f/2.8 with updated optics and stabilization? This market for good APS-C lenses is badly under served. Lots of people with high end aps-c bodies would like to have a lens in the focal range and aperture.Think about it - sigma 18-35 f/1.8 and then a Tokina 50-135 f/2.8 (updated). This would cover 90% of what almost any aps-c tog would need any time. Add an UWA - and that is it.
for the similar reason, I went for pentax system. their 16-50 f2.8 and 50-135 f2.8 are superb lenses. add 60-250 f4 and 12-24 f4 for a complete combo.
great camera.. just wondering how will the next generation will be :D
John: If this will be selling at 10k, then it will be a compelling proposition.
the current 645D was launched with initial price 10k. and I believe the successor will be more affordable. maybe 8k?
bossa: I was hoping for a mirrorless version to get the size down to a D800 or D4 but they've stuck to the previous format.
when I got the chance to try this camera 2 years ago, I was surprised by the ergonomic. it's really nice to hold. far better than gigantic Hassy.
I believe it is Sony's sensor. Remember months ago there were rumors about Sony designing 50MP cmos sensor? I think this is it. And I have a feeling that the same sensor will be used by Pentax for their next MF dslr.
expressivecanvas: I was about 99% sure I will be moving to a Pentax system to replace my obsolete Olympus system but if Tamron is going to be passing on making lenses in Pentax mount from now on, I might need to reevaluate. I'm not implying that I think this particular lens will be a 'good' lens, but Tamron does indeed make some really nice, fast lenses. If they are dropping Pentax, I definitely need to reevaluate systems...
as far as I know, the new Tamron lenses are basically co-developed with Pentax, and both will be release it under their own brand with their own lens coating and build quality. So I think that's why Tamron stops making lenses with K mount.
Fuzzfuzz: I just wish the Tokina 11-16 2.8 existed in Pentax k mount... That lens is the only lens i really miss to the k-mount
I prefer pentax 12-24mm. the tokina is nice but the zoom range is awkward.
samfan: Gooo 3rd party.
I have a wish Tamron and Tokina would start making lenses for the Sigma mount. Aaand that Sigma would make a FF DSLR. Maybe they could merge with Ricoh to create something amazing together.
Oddly, my list of dream lenses consists almost solely of 3rd party lenses, but combining bodies from any of the 3 main DSLR makers with too many 3rd party lenses is an exercise in frustration, especially when the future is concerned.
that's weird.. two days ago I had an unexpected dream at night about Ricoh/Pentax and Sigma joint together in developing outstanding lenses. let's hope it will come to reality :))
fisherman_lol: Good for Canikon, bad for Pentax. Good job DPR as usual.
one more thing, everytime a news about pentax shows up on the front page, it wouldn't stay long. a series of other news will appear shortly after.. leaving pentax news deep down unseen and forgotten. well, maybe it's a coincident.. maybe it's just me.
Zvonimir Tosic: What is the point of these random snapshots done with random lenses?There are already hundreds of superb photographs taken by renowned photographers with this camera that are nothing short of amazing.
I believe people buying cameras such as K-3 et al aren't really interested in snapshots; such galleries are maybe good for pocket compacts, but for top of the line weatherproof DSLRs with 8.3 fps, 24MPs, selectable AA, etc ..?
C'mon. Times change, people's habits change, but DPR's habits never, it seems. Good old 2004 is still on around here.
that's right. I can never understand the point of this 'real-world samples gallery' with a bunch of mediocre photographs. I suggest you visit Allen Birnbach's website and see great shots of a ballet dancer using K-3.
ragmanjin: This seems like it would be perfectly paired with the new Pentax K-3 for birders and the like, why do you figure they wouldn't bother with a K-mount version?
based on the lens road map, Pentax will release 135-400mm next year. it's equivalent to 200-600mm in FF.
iudex: One important thing that wasn´t in the article is the weight: 283 g pretty much answers all the complaints about small zoom and no constant f2,8.Considering this weight (and small size) the lens makes perfect sense and there´s no point in comparing this lens to 16-50/f2,8 zoom (which weighs 565 g, i.e. twice as much).
take a look at Sigma 20-40mm F2.8
huge and heavy.
ManuLo: I also thought that d7100 has the same sensor that d3200.But the d7100 has a Toshiba sensor and d3200 has a Sony sensor. The Pentax has the Sony sensor of d3200 not the d7100 sensor
D3200 sensor size 15.4 x 23.2 D7100 sensor size 15.6 x 23.5 D7100 6036 x 4020 pixels.D3200 6080 x 4012 pixelsD7100 Pixel pitch (µm) 3.9 D3200 Pixel pitch (µm) 3.8D7100 Sensor photo detectors (Mpix) 24.26D3200 Sensor photo detectors (Mpix) 24.39D7100 bits per pixel 14D3200 Bits per pixel 12
Pentax K-3 uses Sony 24MP sensor, but it's a new model with new architecture. and it's 14 bits.
mbpm: I've only dreamed of this camera.
On the side note, I cannot believe there's only one post besides me!
because not many people have the adequate artistic taste to heart this beautifully designed camera.
brownie314: This will probably be a great lens. Although Nikon and Canon users already have options in this range and aperture. But I don't think f/4 lenses get the proper attention they deserve. Many photographers poopoo on them because they are not "fast enough". But these f/4 lenses can be made smaller and tougher than the larger f/2.8 companions. And with the ever increasing iso performance of bodies, f/4 is good enough many times. I personally wish Sigma or Tamron (or Tokina) would make a 50-150 f/4 lens for aps-c that is tough and weather sealed. I don't know of any options for a lens like this from anyone (well I don't know much about Pentax, maybe they do). But it could be made much smaller than the big 70-200 f/2.8 lenses most people mount on there aps-c dslrs, just because they don't have an option. And yes I know that there are 70-200 f/4 lenses, but 50mm is a much better place to start for aps-c than 70mm.
Pentax has DA* 50-135mm f2.8 with excellent optic.
Timmbits: I don't mean to badmouth pentax or anything of the sort, but with new FF mirrorless models being introduced by Sony, and others to follow... although a good idea, the selectable olpf sounds like the sort of innovation I'd fall for when I was younger, but which seems moot, when you consider that more of us have started to ponder graduating to FF and have been eagerly waiting to see what develops in FF. At end of 2013, I'm definitely not willing to pay entry-level FF prices for an APSC, no matter what bells and whistles they throw into it.
people are so crazy about FF size. I'm pleased with aps-c and if I need bigger sensor, I'll to go medium format.
limlh: Canon admits that the sensor may be useful for medical and security purposes. Unlikely to see it in digital camera. I think for sensitivity in digital imaging to take a big step forward, a new base material for sensor like Graphene would be needed. In fact, it may be more practical for sensor makers to use Graphene in their current process than making organic sensor, which Fujifilm is very likely to use in the next iteration of the X-series cameras.
graphene imaging sensor surely is a great idea. but I doubt we will see it as commercial product in a near future. and maybe the cost will be much higher. my wish for now is the quantum dot film.
abortabort: Mark my words - This camera will become a collectors item
at least.. 4 of my friends were spending the whole day contacting any friends, relatives, or colleagues in Japan to get this blue camera for them.
KL Matt: This really surprises me -- I thought they were dropping the K-01 like a bad habit. Does releasing a new K-01 edition and all the effort that entails mean that Ricoh is commited to maintaining a K-mount mirrorless body in the lineup going forward? The plot thickens. I have no idea what they're up to, but I like it!
in the old time, Pentax's tagline was "BE SURPRISE!" :)
marike6: The K-01 is well made camera with great IQ, but I've always wondered why customers should prefer a K-01 over a K-30, which has an 100% OVF, a more robust AF system and a better grip. Going a bit smaller, but sacrificing those three crucial things doesn't make all that much sense unless the idea is to simply to be different.
I bought K-01 after a week thinking about K-30, and it was a great decision :) yes you're right about the viewfinder and AF. But amazingly, K-01 is a great performer. I used it for shooting birds last week and it was fantastic.