A very strange article, which should sum up with : ok, the switch to full-frame includes bodies AND lenses, and is great but can be quite expensive.
mickeybphoto: Wow! This is kind of embarassing. Not lookin too good for 7D mkII.
And at long last, an intervalometer included in firmware !!!
The three reasons owners of Canon lenses will get one :- It has more reach than any Canon FF- It has highest fps of non 1D-X bodies- It should have reasonably good AF and AF tracking
sproketholes: Hello Barney, Could you tell me if this film idea was initiated by Canon or dpreview? And also was any part of it paid for by Canon?
Seagman : No, it's healthy to want know who's behind these videos, and good that DPReview is transparent about it. We should all look at advertising with a critical eye.Here you've got an advertising aspect to it (well someone has to make and sell the cameras we want!), but also a great hands-on feed-back from someone with experience.I'm sure that much of the feed-back on DPReview including our comments influence the developments of the cameras.
Le Kilt: DPreview and Adam Jones : Thank you !!!
Most enjoyable to watch and very helpful, it confirms I want one too :-)
Eleson, you're presuming a lot. I said "it confirms that I want one".I have used all three 5Ds, a 1D-X, and a 7D with many lenses, including a 70-200 F2.8L IS, the 100-400 L and 500mm F4L, so I do know what I want, not "I want to book a similar trip to take great shots", I do that already.If you have invested in Canon lenses and don't want to switch to Nikon, the 7D will give a lot more reach than any of the Canon FF. The improvements on the 7DII sound very good, and it's great to see someone in action with it, in complement to a usual review.What I was also looking for was any feature or performance where the guy says "this is really not good for me", as did Bettina Hansen in her hands on testing. That also helps me decide.If it was pure commercial junk, then we wouldn't have your or my comments here to praise or slag off what we see, a great feature on DPreview.
prossi: This is a dead branch of the evolutionary DP tree. I don't see anything here that would want to make me buy an APSC sensor in the body and weight of a FF camera. You get all the downsides and none of the ups.
IvanM : It has a lot more reach than the 1D-X, so when you haven't got a 1D-X with a 500 or 600mm lens, the 7D and a 400mm really is a great option.
The 7D is not perfect, but it's a great companion to a 5D. I've coaxed many many great pics from it, and will definitely upgrade to the 7D II, and oh dear, I've never been on the DXO site, is that really wicked of me?
Simple, you get more pixels per duck.
Well done Canon for finally including an Interval Timer Shooting in the body. Surely it wasn't that hard, was it?Now if you could please include it in firmware updates in other bodies, I promise to never say N*k*n again ;-)Seriously, a big plus for those of us that use it, as it's a lot easier and quicker to program it on the screen than on the remote. Thank-you.
P.S. DPReview : it seems to be missing from your specs sheet...
DPreview and Adam Jones : Thank you !!!
mjbehnke: I will get this camera, as I shoot sports and Wildlife. Since Canon is the only company that makes a true 70-200(195mm) lens (Nikon, tamron, sigma, barely get to 130mm at 200), I need that extra reach and the 10fps will be nice for football and soccer games. It's a great camera for sports and wildlife shooters.
For those who don't know,
@7minutes and 50seconds
Reminder (if needed), by definition, a 200mm lens is at 200mm from the sensor only when focused at infinity.
NJOceanView: I would have preferred to read an opinion from someone who used and embraced crop sensor cameras, since that is the category the 7D2 is in and the marketplace where 7D2 buyers will come. The opinion should have been about the 7D2 compared to other crop cameras, not compared to the 1Dx or 5D3.
I'm also surprised she cited "a little more reach" from the 7D2 vs. FF. It's 60% more, not "a little more." That's why 90% of pros who use crop cameras use them.
Agreed brudy, it's about whether she would prefer the camera compared to her other choices. She works with Canon cameras, so 5D II and 1D-X are her alternatives and references.
Shamael: Voice recording, my Nikon F5 had no voice recording, my Mamiya C330 did not have voice recording, my Hasselblad 500 had no voice recording and my Bronica GS had no voice recording, and all we did with it was shooting pictures. This digital age has brought us many problems as it seems, voice recording....sick, only a few top end cameras in high price range have that. So, blaming an aps-c camera for having no voice recording sounds somewhat stupid.
So is not understanding someone else's view.
MisterPootieCat: Sorry Bettina, you lost me at "a color profile that reminded me of puke". It sounds like you can't even figure out how to get the color profile right. There's no evidence to support your claim either.
No, she just chose cameras that gave her the colours she liked and got the fast workflow she wants.Like in many other spheres, there are hundreds of different types of professional photographers, and most have their specialities and areas they don't want/need to deal with. Is that so difficult to understand?
AksCT: This article does not claim to be a "comprehensive and technical review" of the camera. It contains a lot of subjective and personal views of the author. Clearly, as posted in these comments, others have broad and differing personal views.However, it is quite disappointing to see unrelated and inappropriate comments.
Yes reviews finish with an opinion. Reviews try to cover most features and most uses of a camera.She's not trying to help you decide if the camera is good or not for you, she's just sharing her experience of how she uses a camera and how this one suits her work or doesn't, comparing only to cameras she's worked with.
Thanks for sharing Betina. Great article, most interesting to get some feedback from a pro on using the cameras and the things that help her particular workflow.
P.S. Just a pity some don't understand the difference between an "opinion" and a "review".
Tomrood: Anyone using the words hate or puke in a review does not really sound like a professional. And to top it off she wrote 25% about a ridicules feature that no camera in existence has. And if u ask me no pro cam wil ever have this... can u imagine how it would look if all the photographers during a sports game where talking to their camera..hilarious!
I really don't understand why DPR even published this..
If you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes for two minutes you shouldn't read "opinion" articles".The voice memo feature is on the 1D-X, and obviously gets used, much quicker than scribbling, and it gets copied with the pic.It's interesting to hear from someone who uses a feature you have no use for, and for whom it's a very useful tool, no?
Ontario Games : re-read the title, it's an "opinion", not a review. One pro's opinion who uses Canon gear to earn a living.
Ontario Gone: She lost me when she claimed the crop sensor allows for greater reach. Well this is true when the pixel density is higher, but the 5DII for example being cropped from 22mp to match the FOV of apsc is likely going to still have plenty of pixels for printing. A FF like a D810 will pretty much match a 7DII, literally removing any advantage to a crop sensor.
Reach is important for distant stuff like birds etc when your subject doesn't fill the frame and you haven't got a longer lens to put on. If you've got Canon lenses, the 7D (I or II) will put more pixels on your bird than any FF Canon body.
damell: I'm about to pick up the Phantom Vision 2+ and I've got 2 questions please:
1. With your smartphone connected, what happens when a call/text comes through? Is there any form of interruption?2. How wide does the smartphone clamp on the controller go? I want to get the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7inch. Any idea if it fits? If not, what other optons would you suggest based on your experience?
The call won't interrupt the flight, you just have to handle it sensibly.The clamp will take something up to 9.5cm wide, 10cm with a struggle.