F Langheinrich: Let me set the record straight. First, Delaney is a real photographer who works for me. Here she was waiting for a late arriving bride. Delaney took second in a recent challenge.Second, I don't make comments on dpreview because I would just be mocked more by those of you who have nothing better to do.Third, what did I win? Nothing! I do have friends and they may have voted. I'll never know. I didn't solicit any votes. If I wanted to cheat I could have gotten 100 5's and the result from you would have been the same. The question is, why do none of you have 11 friends. I think I know.Fourth, you say a lot about me but know nothing. I don't have Facebook right now, no website, only minimal information on the school website. Intelligent people don't write about things they know nothing about.Fifth, I make no apologies for this picture. It is beautiful and well-composed. It deserves to be first. Do any of you know anything about art?
@babalu : I think you mean the blade of grass...? Can't see any obvious sign of PP.The light is very uniform and diffused on Delaney and the background, I imagine due to a very grey and overcast sky, not at all typical of a studio session.
Hugo808: I got as far as number 7 before deciding that if I'd taken them they would have gone into the bin and never been seen by anyone!
To Hugo808 : I get your point, but when you keep old snapshots of people and they later become world-famous, how cool!
Good for you, AroundtheUniverse, ignoring the squabbles and concentrating on what has brought us all here, a common interest in photography. I learnt 82.5% of what I photographically know in useful exchanges on forums. I did also learn a little humility and to take a lot of things with a pinch of salt and humour ;-) Unfortunately, even well-meant criticism can come across a bit harsh in text, whereas in face-to-face discussions you can add a smile to show you're not being aggressive Anyway, you will often find that great colour photos have two or three dominant colours (in different shades of course), often with very little or no others. Extra colours often distract from the main elements.After the comment, I was curious and had a closer look at the stone bench in Photoshop, and it's not blown out, but has a very uniform colour and hence we don't see much detail at this resolution, just one of those things...
Cassidy96: listen here frenchy, you don't need to be angry at other just cause you have mommy issues hahahahahahahahaha ;)
Gosh, you impressive young Mormon, you have psychology aptitudes as well, good for you.:-)
AroundtheUniverse: I think this shot is absolutely stunning, and deserved much higher than 62nd. The contrast of the golds and then black really make me love it. I'm a sucker for a good silhouette. I wish there weren't so many submissions in this challenge because it doesn't give pictures enough exposure to get an even voting. I wish people weren't so negative in their comments on challenges like this. But I guess that's coming from the girl in the first place photo. Honestly, I love the photo in that one, but I love so many other photos in here that just didn't get shuffled into the first page of the voting enough. 166 entries is a lot, which really doesn't give a good voting. But anyways, this photo is absolutely stunning! As one learning, I'm inspired to work towards this kind of beauty.
Thanks AU, I suspect people preferred seeing the female photographers closer-up in this challenge... ;-)In a good spot, always keep an eye on the sunset, and often up to an hour after it !
Le Kilt: Falous light, zgood!
Only just noticed my mistake, that was supposed to be "fabulous light" of course :-)
Cassidy96: Better than any of Le Kilt photos :) by far
Oh Cassidy, your experience and feedback is invaluable, thank-you ;-)
...So yes, we do have a nice photo of a girl with beautiful hair, well complemented by the general colours. Pro or snap-shot? Somewhere between the two for me, what do you think? And does it deserve to win? Was all the voting from objective people who have a passion and love of photography?P.S. The evidence of let's say 'non-objective' voting is in the bar-charts of this photo and the other top ten or so. Have you ever taken part in a competition only to see judges award the first prize to their friend?But don't worry, this is just the Internet, where such squabbles have happened before and will again, I'll just go and see if I can find a life now... ;-)
...This isn't usually the place for constructive criticism, but the main weaknesses would be the composition and how you are drawn in to the photo, and the focussing. Her face and hair are the the strong point, yet we are drawn in and down, where we end up looking at the knee which sticks out somewhat. The buttons draw unnecessary attention, as they are bright and more sharply in focus. The focussing seems to be on the cuff, instead of the face and hair which thereby lack detail. The light is bland and the hand ends up much brighter and whiter than the rest of the skin tones which are a bit orangy.What is good about the photo are the general colours, there are only three dominant ones, green, orange and black/grey... This is helped by the background whose colours complement the girl nicely, and her clothes with no distracting colours. And these are just some of the things a pro will teach you......
to tissueninja :unfortunately this sort of voting can get people exchanging harsh words.What is more displeasing to many here than the 11 5.0 votes are the sand-bagging votes, where excellent photos are deliberately given lowest marks to bring their score down. That is bringing down other photographers in a cheap way, and undignified of those with a passion and love for photography. I hope you didn't do that, but several did....
Cassidy96: Wow 63ed? And yet you have the nerve to criticize the winner? I have a five year old brother who could have taken this same picture. You are no winner and you need to find a life other than trying to make people feel bad about their pictures that are clearly better than yours.
I would be most interested to see some photos from your brother, does he have a web-site?;-)P.S. are you one of the sand-baggers?
Cassidy96: Distasteful. You cant criticize the winner when you take 63rd place.
LOL, it is always sad when someone can't accept criticism and runs to see what they can slag off instead.
Lol, how pretentious!Without your 11 'friendly' votes that have nothing to do with art, being beautiful or well-composed, this would have come 9th, or even lower if we assume that the 'friends' also gave the 0.5 votes to some of the very good shots that 'deserved' to score above yours. Ah, yes, "deserved" can be subjective, can't it...If you didn't solicit those votes, good for you, but the pattern of a rigged vote is there.P.S. Please, humour me, do you think any of the shots 2-8 deserved a 0.5 lowest score...P.P.S. Maybe others don't get their non-existent friends to vote high for them and sand-bag others...P.P.P.S. If you really think your shot deserves to win, you might try taking some photography lessons... there are some good elements in this photo but some not so good ones.
stevelatinner: Great photo. Can't believe the number of jealous people here. There is no evidence of vote rigging!
Lol, you've got to be joking...
nz769r: Big Deal! What a lot of silly misgivings and sour grapes!
What? A female photographer has to be ugly? This is a photo of a beautiful woman who is nicely posed. You cannot tell whether Delaney is/not a photographer any more than you can with the other photos in the competition. The photograph meets the requirements of the competition. So get off of that rant.
For those that think that the voting was biased somehow -- you need to change the rules if you think that you should have won. Not whine here.
Well done F. Langheinrich! Delaney and you won fair and square.
Sounds like you're new to the challenge system, people have been asking for changes in the voting system for years, and it's not happening. If you think it's fair and square to get a load of friends (11 of them in this case) to give you top marks and dump bottom marks on other great photos, well that's your right... it made the difference for the winner who would have made 9th place without his 11 friends. But that's ok, nobody died, or even lost money, it's just a DPR challenge for fun and a tiny bit of glory ;-).
Interestingly, if you remove the 11 votes from 'friends', this would have made 9th place, which is about where I would have put it. Possibly a few places lower if you remove the sandbagging 0.5 votes from some of the pics.
Nice shot, love her dress style and great framing, would have scored higher if someone (the winner?) didn't get a couple of friends to dump two 0.5 votes on it.
I did like this shot, great framing, looks like a scene from a film :-)
babalu: A shame that the winner in this challenge is a cheater, in my opinion ! This shot had to be in the very top places !
Not really, having 11 friends give you 5.0 and dishing out 0.5 to others isn't worthy.
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