REDred Photo: Why is there no mention of the serious overheating issues in 4k video recording? It's a pretty significant carrot for sony to dangle in front of hybrid video/stills photographers... this camera promises the combined core capabilities of $6k to $7k worth of other sony/atmos gear. Being a 5th generation A7 series camera, many people (myself included) will jump on this purchase with the expectation that sony has worked out all the kinks and brought a highly evolved and refined product to market.
Obviously, this isn't a full review, but shouldn't dpreview warn "early adopters" of a potentially fatal flaw? I've been reading this site consistently since its inception something like 15 years ago and I have a lot of respect... but right now I feel obliged to ask a potentially offensive question: Is dpreview really an independent review source, presumably protecting the interests of trusting consumers... or just another cog in the camera/tech industry's mass marketing machine?
Your suggestion that DPR should engage in internet rumour mongering is ridiculous. Their approach is to report facts. Observed, verified, correct facts.
What is offensive is your desire to make casual and random accusations. I seriously doubt that you have been a long time reader, or that you bothered to think rationally about what you did read.
If you want to make an emotional purchase, without a full set of facts (which would be in the full review when posted ) then that is your problem to solve. Perhaps you should figure out for yourself how to determine if this overheating is an issue for you, in your intended use, rather than engaging in thoughtless slandering ?
janist74: Dpreview should hurry up, otherwise Sony releases the Mk iii before the review is complete. Come on guys. I remember when Dpreview was always the first with reviews...
I suppose there may have been a 3 day period soewhere, when DPR was wholly timely, but if you look at a good sample of published, it really never happened.
This is not slagging; I love DPR and accept that in their quest for accuracy and completeness, uniformly quick turn around was never possible.
Tapper123: Perhaps the metallic awards system should be done away with? It just leads to contention. Seems the numerical scores are enough, not to mention the conclusion text, for people looking for a summation.
Personally I thought this was a fair review, and I own an EM5 II and enjoy it. Pair it with some really good lenses and it's as good as almost anything except for perhaps some extreme situations where a 35mm sensor has an advantage. I see it as a great all-arounder, a camera that does everything reasonably well, with world class IS, solid build and weather resistance. If you can't get a good image from this camera paired with a good lens, then I suspect the problem is not the camera.
Anyway, gold, silver -- it doesn't matter. It's a great camera, capable of great images, and has a remarkable lens selection. Enjoy it.
OR, perhaps we could not cater to those oblivious to nuance and context.
mpgxsvcd: I have one simple question. Why did the Canon 70D receive a MUCH higher score(83 vs. 81) and the Gold award? What does the 70D do that the E-M5 MK II doesn’t?
If I picked up the 70D right now and shot it side by side with the E-M5 MK II what would the 70D be that much better for? Both cameras are still at a similar price point today and they are in the same category. So what makes the 70D so much better?
Is the issue that the 70D was rated against the competition of 2 years ago and the E-M5 MK II is rated against the competition of today? Shouldn't the ratings value always increase if the cameras are always getting better? Why are cameras like the A6000 and the E-M5 MK II rated lower than the 70D?
I still cannot fathom why I should choose a Canon 70D over an Olympus E-M5 MK II. If I purchased solely based on your conclusions and ratings then I could see no other option. Thankfully, I didn't wait for the review and bought the E-M5 MK II sight unseen. I don't regret it that one bit.
The 70D ...The 2013 70D ?
Is it possible that camera capabilities have advanced in the last year and a half ?
My primary P&S got "Highly Recommended", which is the same as Gold, so I'm just happy to be in that club.http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/minoltas404/16
So, basically, any kit lens has sufficient resolution to produce a 40mp image, within the feature's performance envelope. That's impressive.
Ulfric M Douglas: So instead of paying salaries (and looming pensions) they will pay them, and others, for photos.Is this a big deal? Change of arrangement, that's all.What am I missing?
People deserve pensions for working.
Cipher: Do people buy magazines anymore?
Around 3 million per year, consistently since 2010.Just in case you asked a question there, rather than snarking.
Mike FL: Good brand, but now I know why the company goes to downhill
>>> "guide number 26 with ISO 100 and 85 mm"..."Included tele attachment for 85 mm".
For GN, I do not like to see mfc makes SPEC senseless.
>>> "wide-angle diffuser for 24 mm".
For a diffuser, is it wider enough? what is "mm" w/o "diffuser"?
>>> it is "for a novice shooter"
IMHO, "novice shooter =/= zero knowledge" as mfcs hope so.
metz is one of the best at publishing this info. Did you go to their site and look for it ?
stevo23: Why not? Makes sense, but...M43? Why commit to that? It has no future.
Obviously this is just a trial run to work out the kinks, then they'll target Sony, and it's triple-mount strategy, then Canon with it's only in europe mirrorless strategy, then Nikon with it's rapidlly expanding mirrorless ecosystem..
Sergey Borachev: Looks great, but still not sure as DXO is involved in the lens testing. I will wait for Lenstip and Photozone to be sure.
Correction. These are DXO's test results, not DPR's.
yeah, I;m sure DPR is allowing DxO Mark to publish crap results for them.
LaMesa: With all due respect for the photographer's skill of arranging, taking and post processing attractive pictures, I do agree with some of the posters, who are not so enthusiastic about her work.
To me the pictures do not represent real life, but an unreal postcard type idyll of a dream world, not to be found in Russia, nor anywhere else - too sweet, too flawless. As opposed to the marketing claims, these pictures do not represent anything typical of Russian country life.
As an alternative, please find attached a link to a picture of Army photographer Bill Permutter, taken in Spain in the fiftees, one of my favorites forever.http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-523258-galleryV9-dmcr.jpg
The best photographs are a piece of art, built on a person's perception of the physical world. There is talent in these photos.
harold1968: the conclusion and summary of this camera isn't particularly good.its not bad, its a good camera, but many people will form their own judgement based on cost and functionality.Nevertheless it gets 81%. I really don't understand that, simply that dpreview are completely inconsistent with their summaries and their scores.
Another good idea is noticing this text + link that appears occasionally in some of the reviews
Click here to learn about the changes to our scoring system and what these numbers mean.
The point in the review about the focus mode is pretty funny when you consider this quote from the G1 review, and that they changed it on the G2 :
The left shoulder of the camera is home to a slightly pointless focus mode dial (when we saw prototypes of the G1 we begged panasonic to put something more useful - such as ISO or even shutter speeds - on this dial).
Very impressive ! A lot of thought and effort obviously put into the scene. Great web interface as well - I have always enjoyed the DPR page layouts and widgets.
One of my favourite elements from the old scene was the Bailey's label. The foreground tree was good for seeing detail loss to noise reduction, and the background hills became more numerous across reviews, as the sensor resolutions starting climbing ( from 3 mp ). I would have liked it if the new scene included a Bailey's label somewhere, just for nostalgia's sake.
And to add my 2 cents, for historic cameras, I'd enjoy seeing : Coolpix 990 EOS D30Fuji f31fdPowershot G6Nikon D40xPanasonic G1
The return of the Maxxum3 !
G3User: These images don't impress me. Camera manufactures strive to produce great images from their products and then this guys throughs a yellow instagram filter on them, very unprofessional. I would expect this from my teenage daughter but not a pro. The expressions of the 2 people at the top are not very nice, they are saying to the Frank " I have no respect for you, put that camera down".
I'm going out on a limb here ... T R O L L
David Hardaway: Unbelievable. This is the first time I have seen such a terrible review. All of the samples are random snaps most likely in auto or program mode and the results are not matching the conclusion. Another point is that the conclusion pros / cons are of little actual value to the reader. Jpegs are excellent? really. A $1,300 camera that is given a Gold Award no less says excellent jpgs. WOW. and that isn't even correct. I looked closely at every single sample image and they are terrible. Same old issue especially the mushiness. I am beside myself with disbelief that the reviewer has any real experience and knowledge in this field. I am sorry to say this because it's not "nice" but this has to be said.
Conveniently ignoring the studio comparison shots, are you ? Too lame.
camera fan not photographer: I'd like to see a top 10 of the best up-to $500 camera (including lens) for non-photographers to buy to take great pictures in auto-everything mode, judged primarily by image quality of out-of-camera JPEGs. Because I get asked this question a lot by people who don't care about manual controls, viewfinders, or raw processing. (Eg, just want to take good pics of their kids.) What's as good as or better than the E-PM2 (less than $500 at Amazon, and I've seen down to $424)?
I have exactly this situation ! Someone is asking me to recommend a quality compact p&s, and I wonder if they wouldn't be well served by the Nikon J1 or GX1 ( both under 390 ) or the GF5 for about 320.
RStyga: I'm not sure I understand where P5 stands in the Olympus lineup when its the same size, weight and price with M5 while lacking a VF. Unless Olympus is about to replace M5...
It's an M5 with different ( possibly better, depending on your personal perception of value ) packaging, upgraded lcd and available EVF that is similar in size to the Canon 1Dx
Innovation takes many forms !
CameraLabTester: Sony has caught the Canon and Nikon virus...
Relentless Upgrade Camera Model Syndrome.
That floppy storage device was genius