RStyga: If Leica is slowly degrading in quality it surely is not in pricing.
And solely great lenses do not suffice. The S2 reaches up to ISO 1250 but in order to maintain very high IQ reviewers suggest using ISO 640 at most. Excuse me? A (full weather-sealed) 645D will take you up to ISO 1600 with no real IQ degradation. Alternative, if one needs superb base ISO IQ and can live with a choice of only three FLs and APS-C DoF then one can obtain all three Sigma DP Merrills in the price of less than one Leica lens! I mean, this is ludicrous...
I had no doubt, the moment I posted this, that I would get attacked. If you, Leica owner, spent a provocative amount of money to obtain a Leica lens/body it does not automatically mean it is justifiable. The S system is -no doubt- a high image quality system but this is not surprising; any camera manufacturer can produce an excellent product if priced as much. The question is: what about the target group? Who is it, how wide is it, is it worth expanding it, what are the implications to the brand name, and whether there is a valid photographic legacy for Leica to be proud of?
If you ask me, I'd say that Leica has produced excellent photographic tools in the past, and continues more-or-less in the present, but the company's brand management and technological philosophy, which has made owners proud, is worrying. Remember Sigma SD1's initial price? Have you ever heard of Pentax 645D system? How many professionals would prefer Leica S to Pentax 645D unless they are sponsored or well-off?
If Leica is slowly degrading in quality it surely is not in pricing.
Is this a single shot or a collage? What sort of PP has it had?
RStyga: I was wondering how good the lossless JPEG or RAW file (from 645 Pro) would look.
The difference between camera App output and 645 Pro output, whether it's lossless JPG or semi-RAW, is very large.
zodiacfml: Dp merrills studio comparison tool please. :)
I second that.
RStyga: Very impressive shot but I feel that it has been heavily post-processed; half-photo half-graphics. I was there 1-2 months ago and this barely resembles it.
Indeed, you raised a very critical issue in contemporary photography. I do subscribe to the claim that post-processing is a valid and positive process in most photographs but I also believe that post-processing that fundamentally alters a photograph blurs the border between photography and other forms of visual-digital expression/art.
I meant what I said about your photo. It *is* impressive. But, in my opinion, it is not -actually- a photograph but a photograph-based image. I had a look in your small gallery, just now, and I can say the same for all your photos; they are all creating a very strong impression but most (not all of them, though) have that image-not-photo visual output. Not a bad thing, necessarily, just my comment. Best,
I was wondering how good the lossless JPEG or RAW file (from 645 Pro) would look.
My point was made, petermoons.
Very impressive shot but I feel that it has been heavily post-processed; half-photo half-graphics. I was there 1-2 months ago and this barely resembles it.
Very nice. What was the exposure time and aperture setting?
RStyga: It cannot compete IQ-wise with the other DSLM manufacturers so is this what the marketing dept has come up with to save the day? Oh, well, some people will even call it "pioneering"...
As I said, the marketing dept...
It cannot compete IQ-wise with the other DSLM manufacturers so is this what the marketing dept has come up with to save the day? Oh, well, some people will even call it "pioneering"...
I hope that DPR will include older cameras that are no longer in production. It is very important to be able to compare with older cameras. Last, PLEASE include Foveon-based and the Pentax 645D cameras!!!
RStyga: Thank you, Fujifilm! WHEN you develop the right RAW S/W for your X-Trans technology there will be no need for conventional sensors in your cameras. Good move.
I'm afraid this is a discussion forum, so rhetoric is in order. Especially a founded one. Yes, RAW support is available now as you stated; however, it is not exactly up to par with the RAW support available for CFA-sensors; hopefully it's getting there. Unlike, for example, Foveon X3, X-Trans needs elaborate demosaicing algorithms, something that only relatively recently 3rd party S/W developers have come to commit to, and only given that, now, Fujifilm's camera series is large/significant enough to make a dent as a the market share. As for Fujifilm's own RAW support efforts... could have been better. And more timely.
CollBaxter: The Bayer sensor will also make this easier to integrate this camera in 3rd party software like LR and others. Also maybe out source the sensor.
Fujifilm had not resolved this in its own S/W; how do we expect 3rd party developers to do so?
Yes, the shockingly bad conversion issue has been significantly improved, but not resolved.
Thank you, Fujifilm! WHEN you develop the right RAW S/W for your X-Trans technology there will be no need for conventional sensors in your cameras. Good move.
He looks just a tad less attractive than Seven of Nine... :-)