The price is not right. Full stop. I'll stick to my Panasonic 45-200mm purchased brand new for $180 and I'll live with the 'hardships' of isolating a subject while my wallet is thicker by $1300. Thanks.
I'd take that as an exaggerated comment out of frustration. Have you experienced, up-close, the idiosyncratic behaviour of Merrills? Their AF speed? Then, you'll know frustration..
I'd like to say a certain type of criticism of the reliability of these tests is selective, if not downright meaningless. What is wrong with comparing the output under controlled and disclosed conditions of various cameras when most photographers do not even have access to more than a couple of cameras, let alone proper lenses and controlled conditions to conduct these tests? The DPR tests are simply useful, -typically strong- indicators of the tested cameras IQ performance, not photo-Bible articles of non-photographer pixel-peepers.
SigmaChrome: Why, oh why can't I choose the Sigma SD1 as a comparison camera, DPR? You don't want to...? Nikon don't want you to...?
I'm afraid you have no point for me to miss it. The fact that SD1 is not available through D600's review is a technical issue. Just do it through SD1's review.. what's is the big deal?
I'm sure you've been using Sigma cameras... it's pretty evident from your user name. I have owned one too but, besides the base-ISO output marvel, most else about Sigma cameras is severely crippling to the photographic experience.
RStyga: It is a testament to the ingenuity of Pentax that K-01, a $300 camera, holds magnificently well up to ISO 6400, compared to the full-frame monsters, and shows a very decent performance at ISO 12800. On the other hand, the big gun from Sony is a disaster above ISO 1600. Just an observation...
Sony A77 is an advanced APS-C camera; that's what I imply by "Sony's big gun".
Here, knock yourself out:http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigmasd1/19
I warn you, though, that Foveon X3 are not high-iso sensors... Unless you shoot B&W, avoid any comparisons above ISO 1600...
It is a testament to the ingenuity of Pentax that K-01, a $300 camera, holds magnificently well up to ISO 6400, compared to the full-frame monsters, and shows a very decent performance at ISO 12800. On the other hand, the big gun from Sony is a disaster above ISO 1600. Just an observation...
AlNikon: I come over to read about the opposition, knowing full-well that be it Nikon or Canon, it'll be worth buying and to read your reply makes me laugh. It simply sounds like you had your delicate Canon pride damaged, by the presence of the D600, which IS a goodie too - I do own one of these. Of course that small extra handful of grams could easily disappear with a battery grip or maybe even a lens you fancy, or something that you didn't even think of. Get used to the presence of the D600 and base your posts on fact, not jealousy... The D600 is here, it's great and it's going to kick butt. That doesn't mean to say the 6D wont also do that. I am not one-eyed enough to totally write-off a Canon as they are VERY capable cameras...
I'm afraid I will rain on your parade since I neither shoot with Nikon nor Canon. And a "few" extra grams and volume is indeed a big deal in this industry; you probably haven't heard about it or perhaps you're one of the people who think that amateur photographers have a fetish or a masochism about loading themselves with ego-extension gear to show off. Whether I like Nikon or Canon is besides the point. And the point is that 6D is a significantly more manageable camera to carry around; this is a fact. I must also add that 6D's IQ and features are evidently plenty for most advanced amateur photographers, especially if the price is right. Maybe you are slightly biased here "AlNikon", which is pretty evident from your opening statement, and -in essence- contradicts your last sentence. You are Nikon because you are Nikon and Canon is the opposition. Great argument...
The price will decide a great deal since this model is not aimed to professionals (unless as a backup) but amateurs who mind whether they spend $1500, $2000, or $2500 for their hobby. Also, not many people seem to mention the significant size and weight difference between 6D and D600. To me, for example, D600's size and weight are deal breakers; when I want to exercise my muscles I attend a gym or use weights, not carry a dinosaur-size DSLR.
And... how many mirrorless cameras do you know that have K-01's IQ for $300 body??? Get a grip...
I think some people prefer to complain instead of actually buy a lens that suits them and take photos. So, the DA* prices have gone up; get over it and buy 3rd party lenses until they go down or do not buy DA* lenses at all. SDM has problems in its early designs; drop it. What's wrong with Sigma 8-16mm, Sigma 10-20mm, Tamron 17-50mm, Sigma 17-50, Sigma 24-70mm, Sigma 70-200mm, Tamron 70-200mm?? The lack of WR? OK, so you're all NatGeo photographers or like to shower with your camera... well done, then, maybe you can afford DA* lenses as well. The bottom line is that Pentax mount offers numerous lens choices. Personally, I would probably never spent DA* $$$ because they do not rate that high in my book when there are really good offerings from other lens makers.
In my opinion, people can surely pause before critiquing Pentax for the release of K-01; not only is not fair for a company with such a history, experience, and presence in the photography industry but it also shows ignorance of what K-01 can really do in the hands of a creative person. It is a photographic tool, and a very good one. I have used many cameras in the last several years and the moment I started using K-01 I felt the power behind that yellow rubber and aluminium design. We're not doing Pentax a favour using K-01; it deserves it.
Is this 2012 AF speed fro a 'pro' branded camera??? The first DP Sigmas were that bad... what on earth!
Best of all is the new photo-model.. eerrr, the camera model, I mean the girl, .. no, I meant to say, the camera model.:-)
LFLee: and I thought the Pentax K-01 is the ugliest camera... that title is now officially being take over by this Hassy.
Italian should forever be banned to design camera after this. :D
K-01 is indeed different but it is not ugly. You cannot possibly compare the aesthetic lines, DSLR compactness and balance of K-01 with the redneck design approach of this Hasselblad!
I have used a Leica Digilux-3; not happy. I can see a pattern on Leica's products, that of well-built equipment (with notable exceptions) with good to excellent IQ, and often sluggish responsiveness and/or functionality (Leica fans might call it 'classic controls'). If the counter-argument is that real photographers do not need fancy options and/or intelligent features, I can respond that real (and 'fake') photographers do not need to pay Leica that 'little' extra for its brand name in order to get the same -or better- IQ and do not need having to put up with 'features' such as slow AF, quirky controls, average LCD etc. I don't hate Leica; they simply need to change direction if they would like Leica products to become even more well-established, and God-forbid, even selling to more consumers. Leica products are consumer products, not idolised equipment that last forever; in the digital photography era products become obsolete fast. I'm not sure Leica has really realised this.Regards,
Sixpm: It's strange how one's mind changes over time!
I was a keen Leica M8/8.2 user for at least 3 years, but with the arrival of the micro 4/3rd cameras and because of the weight issue, I no longer has the urge to use any heavy camera and the Leica digital M's are now feels weight of a brick on my neck. Plus the fact a good 12MP is good enough to go to 40" x 30" and so the mega pixel is no longer the issue for me.
With the amount of different type of camera on the market now, one is spoiled for choices both in terms of price, weight, function and the most important of all is the abundance of quality as all formats now closely matching as the digital technology gets betters.
As an ex-Leica user please do tell us whether Leica produces image quality you could produce using any other camera costing a fraction of a Leica. The Leica myth is a myth. Even Foveon X3 struggles to make a difference anymore nowadays with, as you mentioned, dramatic improvements in camera technology.
I'm sorry, I have to comment on this, as well. This is an inexcusably expensive camera brick (not the K-01, by the way) with good image quality but not much else.There are numerous cameras on the market offering much more for much less (save the red dot). Excuse my being blunt but it seems to me that Leica feeds on fools...
I simply fail to see the advantages of this camera over a Pentax 645D. In terms of image quality, weather resistance, general built quality, handling and price, 645D is a no-brainer. Leica is for Leica users (or should I say rich followers and "successful" -financially-speaking- professionals).
Let's wait until there's a verdict on its AF accuracy, LV speed, and PRICE.