nonuniform: This feels like a bespoke Sony. If you want a really great APS-C system to use as a photographer, buy a Fuji. If you want to impress everyone with your ability to purchase luxury goods, buy the Leica.
Well, we're not comparing the X-Pro to the M7, but to the Leica T. As an M4/M6 user of over 20 years, I have some opinions about what makes them great, but what makes them less great is that digital offers flexibility not found in film.
Comparing the X-Pro to the T, I would say that the value proposition of the Leica has very little to do with "going their own way" as it does with brand marketing.
You can convince yourself that there is something special about the Leica T, that's your prerogative. I simply disagree. There is nothing special about this camera compared to a Fuji.
This feels like a bespoke Sony. If you want a really great APS-C system to use as a photographer, buy a Fuji. If you want to impress everyone with your ability to purchase luxury goods, buy the Leica.
I'm excited to get mine. Sorry so few people have a sense of fun or adventure.
MacOrneille: Does this leave Central Camera as the only remaining camera store in Chicago?
I remember roaming around Chicago in the early 80's buying up old press gear. There was so much more Crown and Speed Graphic gear there than in NYC. It was weird.
buginarug: I shopped for years with Calumet via catalogue and in their NYC store, but when they went to the internet they refused my order saying they could not verify me or my address even though I was a long time customer with 10s of thousands in purchases shipped to my home many times. I never tried to make another purchase again. I believe at the time they were relying on a third party verification system that did not have my private road in their database rather then take the time to update their system with their know customer base. They never understood how to market themselves via the internet. Not surprised they are out of business.
This is such a classic story about retailers that didn't really understand how to transition to digital sales. I never understood why so many catalog retailers, outside of apparel (Lands End, J Crew, etc), did such a poor job of transitioning to Internet sales. They had the operations mostly in place. <sigh> I worked on the website of a catalog retailer that successfully made the transition. It was hard, but it just took thought.
Combatmedic870: I think these cameras are over rated. The concept is good. They will be great for manual focus lens users.
Yup. It's just a camera. It's the first camera I've been happy using MF lenses. Very happy with the results so far.
mevbo: Um...Not so good for
..... photographers who want to quickly capture a moment
Isn't that almost all of us?
....photographers who have never learned how to capture the moment without the aid of technology...
Yes, that's probably some people.
Having grown up with manual everything, I'm happy with the camera and MF lenses.
I wish them well, but when I said I wanted an A7 with an F mount, this isn't what I had in mind. Oh well. We'll never see another camera like the D700 from Nikon I guess.
falconeyes: Well, the Nikon 1.4/58 has 9 elements (2 asph), the Zeiss 1.4/55 has 12 elements (1 asph, 6 ED). The published ZEISS optical MTF figures quote MTF for 40 lp/mm to stay at or above 50% across the entire image field and for *ALL* apertures (before diffraction hits), right into the corners. That's quite stunning and probably not matched by the Nikon.
OTOH, the Nikon has AF, is cheaper and may still be good enough to bring true medium format quality to the D800E. Will be interesting to watch :)
Looked up MTF figures on Nikon USA website: I was correct, it cannot compete with the ZEISS. Nikon publishes MTF at less challenging 30 lp/mm to be down to 25% in the corners. So wide open, the Zeiss seems to be *much* better in the corners.
The main difference is: the Nikon still is a rather traditional symmetrical design while the ZEISS is a rather challenging retrofocus design.
What focus peaking? You mean the non-existing focus peaking on the D800?
ecm: Not one real camera to compare it to. I don't usually say this kind of thing but this article seems to be a waste of time on a photography website. I feel like someone is trying to sell me a Kodak Instamatic when I came here to buy a Nikon F100.
It's not a real camera. It's a phone with a camera. Makes sense to compare it to other phones with cameras.
Is using a smartphone to take photos NOT photography? Is photography a term that describes images captured with x,y,z brands of cameras?
Get a grip. If it's capturing still images, it's a camera, and it's photography.
RoccoGalatioto: Painting and photography are totally different arts. If you must paint, learn how to put paint on a canvass. Photography is a totally different medium. It may look easy but getting superb images is very hard. Photographers should not waste time imitating panting they should use their imagination at capturing the instant and the very graphical images that the medium allows to capture. Although at first photography appears very naturalistic, it can be so, it has the potential to be the most surrealistic. My opinion. If you like an image who cares what or how it's made from. Life is too short. ENJOY
Rules Rules Rules. There are no rules. Photographers are painters, painters are photographers. Who cares. Do you like the images or not? If not, ok, and if so, ok. Who cares *how* they were created, except those who wish to learn new techniques.
I thought it was a cool idea wrapped in a bad execution. I also think you'd have to embrace the Hipstamatic/Instagram concept to understand why this camera was cool.
I wish Wacom would come out with a pressure sensitive tablet already.
I'm fascinated by the negativity here - it's a defensive reaction to something that challenges you. Don't worry, ignore the Petzval, it won't hurt you or your photography. Nobody is making you buy it. Just go back to your gear and enjoy doing what you do.
ABM Barry: WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO DPR???!
It seems that this site is now dedicated to low quality imaging devices!
I see above; junk mounted onto Nikon and Canon bodies? Why on earth would anybody with a single working neuron invest in superb cameras then pay good money for bad-plastic bits to put on the front other than lens caps or body caps?
If you want poor image definition and focus, take any lens, switch to manual focus and simply de-focus! Are they so lacking in photography skill that they havent worked this out yet?
iPhone, + accessory lenses.
We certainly need a High quality review site dedicated to very high quality equipment both in terms of Cameras both FF and medium format.Monorail, and Panorama systems.
Post photography processing, system calibration and on through to Printing.
DPR 3 years ago bears no resemblance to the content today.
LOMO, Oh Yes! I will post a separate comment on my one and only experience concerning use of Lomo in outback photography in Australia.
Yes, totally. Photography is very narrowly defined as the action taken by a few dentists with loads of money that go out and stand in the exact same spot as all the other dentists (and Ansel Adams maybe) and get the exact same photo and claim success at creating a duplicate.
ABM Barry: Out-Back photography in Australia with a Lomo plastic toy.I was shooting an assignment at Coopers Creek.Just finished putting up a sun shade & mounting the Linholf Karden Master "L" system camera to the tripod. A family arrived & struck up a conversation as they had never seen a 4" x 5" Rail camera with Digital back. Dad then asked what would be the best camera for normal landscape shooting that could produce a good image suitable for A3 print. I asked him what he was using, .. he replied a Lomo! I asked him why this choice? a/ a few friends were excited by the results!! (Bad friends) We chatted for a bit & I asked to show me his Lomo, .... His reply: I left it in the shade to have lunch, the Sun shifted and it melted! I couldn't hold back, I just collapsed on the ground in tears of laughter. It was a few minutes before I could stand composed that is until he opened his bag & and showed me Lomo-Blob! That did it, back on the ground in Tears, .......They quietly left!
Well, to each his own. I've seen some amazing landscapes taken by non-traditional (ie: not large format) cameras.
I've also seen hundreds of thousands of photos taken by people with 4x5 cameras that are identical to the other hundreds of thousands of landscape photos.
Maybe you're the one that should try the lomo, break up the monotony.
PixelMover: Things like this make me happy.
I'm just happy there's a market for people to experiment and introduce interesting products. I may not use this lens, but I like knowing it's available.
Ztaz: LoL.... and what about Helios and Lensbaby? Who need this strange piece of junk?
One person's junk is another person's gold.
snegron2: If I could turn back the clock and start all over again I would have bought a Leica rangefinder with three lenses instead of the gazillion cameras and lenses I own...
A Leica with a 35mm Summicron + a 4x5 was my only kit for a loong time. I don't think my photos improved when I had more money and more kit!
I go through periods of intense buying and selling about once a year, usually when I want to try something new - a technique, a process, a new style.
At this point, I don't really need gear, I need an assistant that works for free. I'd call that my son, but he's over it!