HowaboutRAW: Samsung NX1?
Adobe is untrustworthy so there need to be other Sam RAW options.
DxO didn't come with the Sony a65, RX1 or a7ii. So, if it was bundled at one point it seems like it hasn't been for a while. At least not sense the time of the SLTs. The a65 came with the not so good Sony SW. I don't think that the RX1 came with a CD so I've never bothered to check what's bundled with it. The a7ii has no CD.
Sony users can download a free version of the what I believe was previously CaptureOne Express and can upgrade to Pro for $30 (both usable for select Sony models only) which supports all 3 models I own.
snapa: Great, the the percentage of people who own the LX100 or Sony A7 II is .01% of people who own cameras. The people who have DxO OpticsPro v10.2 software is .001%. This article should pertain to maybe .005% of people on earth that own cameras. Great article DPR, very interesting stuff :/
How about doing more reviews on cameras and lenses, like you used to do, which if what made this site so interesting?
I'm in your super tiny 0.005% so maybe I should play the lottery!
heartdisease: Is this a better choice than the Sony flash on the A6000?
Unfortunately, the Metz website indicates that the Sony version doesn't have a metal base. I wonder if this is to avoid shorting the MIS contacts that live in front of the Sony shoe.
An advantage of the Sony flash is that it can be used as a commander (if I remember correctly).
tkbslc: C'mon, a 24-240 superzoom? Is that really why people are buying FF bodies?
The 24-240 is the one I'm looking forward to and will probably be the one that's always mounted when the camera is stilling idle so that I have a good chance of getting an impromptu shot when the situation arises. I find this range to be quite flexible and if the image quality is as good as the DT 18-250 I'll be quite happy. I can live with an image that may not be the sharpest as opposed to not getting the shot at all by having a lens that is too wide or too long on the camera at the time. For example, I looked out my window this morning and saw some deer on the hill a few houses down. I knew they were too far away for the lens I had mounted and that they'd be gone by the time I changed to the LA-EA4 adapter and DT 18-250.
nerd2: I just want an affordable 50mm 1.8 like everyone else.....
I'm also using the LA-EA4 and a Minolta 50 I picked up a few years back. I haven't noticed the light-loss from the mirror being a problem. Manual focus seems to work well when the AF points don't cover what you need. I just don't use a 50mm enough to justify the cost of the Zeiss.
I've also been using the adapter with my DT 18-250 until the FE 24-240 comes along. The AF point spread here is better since it's cropped. I suspect that the EA4+18-250 combo will continue to be useful for the occasional situation where I need faster AF than what the a7ii offers.
Does the Focus Mask work for JPGs?
aqasem: Now we need the Global shutter into next a7iii :)
And a6000 class AF. Of course by then another a7x one-trick-pony will have come along with some new technology that will be held back for the a7iv.
nachos: I've owned a few lacie ruggeds over the years. I still buy them because they're the least worst among the rugged sector. They will inevitably fail after awhile though. It's always been the connection circuitry and not the drive inside. You can open the case, remove the drive and attach a USB->SATA converter and keep using it.
I once kept a drive going for a year doing this.
Same here. The Rugged enclosure failed long ago, but the drive inside is still in use.
Had the same problem with a Seagate enclosure, and again that disk is still use via a SATA-to-USB converter. Enclosures I've never had any problems with are IOMega and a $20 no-name.
It's never been so easy to loose all your pictures.
sdh: To those who are making a fuss over the level gauge: WHY?
Activate the grid, pay attention to horizontal or vertical elements in the composition and visually align them to the grid.
In my experience a physically level camera yields an image that looks tilted, more often than not.
Having both is useful - grid & level is my default display. Sometimes perfectly level makes the composition look askew and sometimes there's not a convenient line in the composition to eyeball from. And seeing that the level gauge is off always reminds me to double check the overall composition in cases where i'm focusing a little too much on my subject.
Also, the 2-axis level is really helpful when taking pictures of boxes where I want to keep distortion to a minimum.
G1Houston: Is the lack of an external charger really a negative?
I have come to appreciate the fact that when I carry these cameras on a trip, I do not have to pack all the bulky chargers with them. I just have to bring a single USB cable that I already use to charge my phone and tablet. Is that really so difficult to charge a separate battery at night time in the camera? It is also possible to use those external batteries we have for the smartphone to quick charge the "camera" in the filed. I thus suggest Dpreview to reconsider calling the lack of external charger a "pro," to encourage companies to simply the accessary. It drives me mad that each one of my camera has a different battery with a different charger.
Outlets are usually at a premium in a hotel room. Another advantage of the USB charging is that I can use one of those plug-in gadgets that has 4 USB ports (and is still smaller than a standard battery charger) and charge my camera, iPad and iPhone all at the same time. The one I have has good output so the charging times aren't bad and excessive heating hasn't been a problem.
larrytusaz: Having shot with the NEX-6 before I would miss the level gauge. I can't shoot a level landscape without one if my life depended on it. There's always a Joby aftermarket spirit level, but then you can't see it if you're using the EVF. Why in the WORLD was this left off from the NEX-6?
However, I love what they'e done with having so many AF points covering so much of the frame. This is something that DSLR makers still don't seem to get--we don't want to have to "focus center and recompose," we want to compose as-is and then be able to place an AF point pretty much wherever on the screen with our current composition already accounted for. Even models like the D7100 don't provide enough coverage, to say nothing of the D3000 and D5000 series. Whenever you say "I want about 150 AF points covering the WHOLE screen" they look at you like you're asking for the moon or something. Sony proves that in fact you're not asking that at all.
Same with me. I'm quite proficient at getting crocked landscapes. I don't want to crop in post since that changes the composition I was going for.
razorfish: Make a smashing new camera with great performance, cripple some key features like the viewfinder and electronic level, now you've created an "upgrade path" to your essentially dinosaur "full frame" models. How do you still get a gold award? Underprice it a lot compared to competing brands, and even seasoned reviewers won't notice the crippling going on.
The level is baffling. For me that would be a deal breaker. I use the level all the time and Sony has such a nice 2-axis implementation.
I've been wowed by the AF speed in the store. It rivals my SLT. Wish my RX1 was that fast.
vscd: DXO should finally unbound old Cameras from the "Elite" Edition. I don't understand why I have to pay 299$ for my 9 years old Canon 5D. :-(
I'd consider upgrading my DxO (got it before ViewPoint came out) if they didn't charge such a premium for the privilege of using full frame.
Then again, my second camera is a Fuji X and I just remembered that DxO doesn't handle that.
topstuff: The A77 was always a decent camera. Handling really is lovely.
This seems a genuine improvement if the sensor is better.
The SLT really does not make a noticeable difference to IQ in real world use, it really doesn't, while the excellent AF and "always on" live view makes cameras like the Canon 70D (itself the best of traditional DSLR) seems clunky and hopeless.
I really enjoyed my time with the A77. I will take a look at the A77 II.
TrojMacReady : Frankly I could care less what your opinion is. It is MY camera and if I say that I can't use it for a specific purpose then that is all that matters to ME. Other's opinions may differ.
Everyone Else: If anyone reading this is considering the purchase of an SLT and plans to use it for low light then you may want to take a look at many samples and see if you like what you see. You should also consider if you shoot RAW or JPG. I shoot 99% JPG since I don't have the time to process a lot of RAW. High ISO RAW holds up better as RAW almost invariably does better at high ISO. You can also use Multi-Frame-Noise-Reduction for static subjects.
Honestly, the high ISO performance is the only complaint I have about the SLT family. I really like my a65 and the a77 / a77ii is a step above that has some additional features that I think would be useful as long as the extra size and weight isn't a problem for you.
The Nex-7 has the same sensor which provides a good indication of the effect of the mirror - and I do indeed see a difference. Also, this thingy in my head called an eyeball also reveals the effect to me just by looking at the mirror. Photography is about capturing light so any loss of light will indeed have an effect.
The bottom line is that IQ is subjective and I find that I can't use this camera above ISO800 so I turn to other gear in those cases (some of which is also from Sony).
I've been using an a65 since the day it was released and I have to disagree about the mirror not degrading the image quality. I've found that I must limit my shooting to no more than ISO 800 otherwise the result will be too noisy.
The SLT technology makes a great outdoors action shooter.
Xentrax: GPS was a unique feature in a cheap A65. Pricier A77M2 does not have GPS.
And no dedicated AF assist red lamp! Hopefully they give 50% discount...
The a65 is still my favorite camera for fast focus / fast shooting in good light. Love the GPS (when it is able to lock). Comes in handy for place like a large zoo or Disney World where a general location isn't as helpful as a more specific location.
In my opinion, the SLT technology suffers in low light. Anything above ISO 800 is too noisy due to the additional light loss of the mirror.
BGM: Thanks for the English lesson. Get a life
No problem, Mr. Bgm.
Matt Random: Can I vote twice? I have the Sony RX1 and FujiFilm X100S. Both are excellent cameras and each has their merits.
The RX1 seems to be better for things. The DR range is excellent for landscapes and sunsets. The sharpness of the RX1 is excellent for catalogue style shots of cameras and such. The LCD on the RX1 is beautiful and I've never had a problem using it outdoors. The RX1, like the Sony a65 I also use, can oversaturate reds. This will often affect skin tones. Using a hotshoe flash does clear this up and results in excellent portraits.
The X100S seems to be better for people. Skin tones are great. Focus is often faster and I tend to get less motion blur even when all other things are equal - at least according to the numbers. The X100S is more portable so I tend to take it with me more often. The X100S does tend to miss focus more often, but that may just be my learning curve.
Both cameras will remain in my arsenal and both will probably be my main workhorses since I'm finding I really like the 35mm FL.