Ramjager: A stronger opponent with the 5DMk3 in terms of Autofocus?You mean the Nikon AF system works this time or is it still sharp on the right soft on the left?Funny how in the DPR D800 review no mention was made of the poor AF and QC issues which plagued the D800 bodies.How many people went through multiple bodies to get one good one that had an AF system half as good as Canons...lots.Yet hey it had 36MP its the king.Your kidding yourseld DPR thinking some actually read and take your reviews seriously until you start reviewing properly and thoroughly.But hey its got 36.3 MP and made by Nikon it must be good..right?
@DaveE1 : so why leave a comment on a forum, forum where we don't necessarily have same opinion ? If you don't like, don't write or critisize other opinions, furthermore without any real and understandable argument. Thanks for your effort..
@DaveE1 : "If people love their Canon badges that much, wouldn't they be happier in the Canon sections of the site? Canon articles and forums are aplenty, so knock yourselves out" : they are !NB : some can have both experiences..
We all have different opinions about our gear.. but you, most probably don't like or admit it ?
@Ramjager : yes, that's one of the main reason why I switched from Nikon D800E to Canon with a 5D MkIII, with satisfaction, lenses ok, autofocus fine, silent aso.. Just compare, on field and real photo conditions, the Nikon 24-70/2.8 AFS with the Canon 24-70/2.8L II ! Just a reminder : photos are recorded out of a sensor, but light go through the lens ! Second point is often forgotten ? Mpix changes nothing here..
Have a look on Thom Hogan's web page where his last comments concerning Aperture explains very clearly that with new ios8, photography "seen from Apple side" will be managed in a completely different way. This way has nothing to do of course, with the usual way used by Pros and Experts.. This is iclouded photography and I bet this will only adress approx. 5% of Pro's need. You'll also notice that the young children shown on some screens illustrating the forcoming ios8 capabilities make me concluding that this new photo application from Apple is mainly built for FAMILY.
TimT999: I'm a bit disappointed that Apple took so long to admit that it was moving all its resources over to their Photo app, but I'm not too surprised. Aperture 3 came out ages ago and it didn't make sense for them to have parallel development of a consumer and pro photo app. That said, I've always preferred the Aperture approach to usability.
Apple has always tried to keep focused on their core strengths rather than spread resources too thin. That's why you have only a handful of Apple phone choices rather than the 40-odd that Samsung sells.
I just hope that Adobe doesn't move Lightroom users over to the monthly rental model they use for Photoshop.
Adobe gave information that LR will be an available "standalone" application forever. Question is : could we believe that ?
NB : ther're also other applications than those from Adobe on market ! C1, DxO aso..
Spectro: Nikon will discontinue support soon for capture NX-2 which is a bummer. Really there are few raw editors left, there are plenty of raw converters. Adobe gets richer with the cloud, nice timing.
With a simple "Photography bundle" in CC offer, Adobe get until now, nomore money than before with upgrading PS and LR every 18 months.. Tomorow ? Another story of course..!
MiraShootsNikon: Back in 2007 or so, I decided to switchup my Bridge-Photoshop workflow to leverage one of the newer cataloging-converter apps. I worked with Lightroom and Aperture extensively for the free month both offered, and ultimately I liked Aperture better.
But I chose Lightroom.
Because even even in 2007, Apple had a terrible reputation for cultivating pro markets and then losing interest in them. Hypercard, anyone? Shake? I love their computers and their products, but Apple likes to use professionals as advertising halos--it's never really been about really serving professional markets. It's great to trot out Sara French to talk about how great Apple products are for photography, but when it comes to actually following a niche market? Not so glamorous or profitable.
I agree, I think Apple is far away from photography market (expert or Pro) and will be more involved in cloud applications which should, without any doubt, bring much more money than an application sold for some $$. Furthermore the gap between Aperture and products like LR, C1, DxO.. is so big that if Apple would have to reach this level, a huge R&D task, so investment too, would be necessary. Aperture is "OUT" since a long time and in Apple's marketing strategy Aperture is not a "mass market target". I even wonder Final Cut is updated just now..Finally I'm not surprised with current decision concerning Aperture.
steelhead3: If Canon can't produce good sensors, they will give you an small upgrade on their software to keep the troops happy.
@Peter Bendheim : I had both Nikon D800E and Canon 5D MkIII and agree with the fact that there's NO problem with Canon sensors. Many people are certainly more concerned with their equipment, waiting for the "perfect thing" instead of spending time outside to take pictures. I can read, here and there, noise is bad.. dynamic range is not enough.. resolution is too low, aso.. I think we are spoilt children ?
hotdog321: I'm hoping DPP will improve its clunky interface enough that I can eventually stop using my standalone CS6 before it becomes too outdated. I won't use Adobe Cloud.
@Joe : I can understand your opinion but if you won't spend more than two minutes with DPP, you don't have a real opportunity to KNOW about this soft. Of course CS6/5 is not to be compared with DPP (same story with Nikon's Capture NX).. but to develop a RAW and just print it, you don't absolutely need PS. PS is a great application, much more complicate as soon as you use masks and layers.. and at a certain price.. DPP is simpler and cost nothing !
MisoL: When we can expect Linux version? Canon, please wake up! The only RAW processor choice, Linux users have is Corel AftershotPro and it takes them many months to support new cameras (lost sales for you in Linux users). Free software like Darktable and RawTherapee is faster in supporting new cameras, but it's usability is not as mature yet.
The answer for your question is IN your question : Linux !! How much users in photography area ? A lot of them use PS too.. which don't exist in Linux world. Companies have to develop for windows and OS-X OS and that represents already a huge work to make it right.. Linux : good, but not suited, until now, for photography. This dispite many comments from Linux users to promote Gimp and other applications.. Like JackM : get real.
kcallo: I got Breast Cancer 6 years ago (I'm male). I saved and saved for my D3s. I love it. I take photos of family, events, singers, bands, etc. I brought the best glass I could. Life is short. My father died just over a year ago from cancer. About 4 months after he was diagnosed. My mother has Dementia. I care(d) for both of them, and pretty much gave up my career. I have gorgeous photos of my father taken with my D3s. So much detail. Priceless.
Whatever camera you get, big or small, it's not ALL about the specs. It's what you get out of it.
Been awhile for the D4s, If I can get it, I will. My D3s does everything I want it to. I want another body so I don't have to keep swapping lenses.
If you want and can afford a D4s, go get one. If you want a P&S, great. No right or wrong in camera choice. We live in amazing times as photographers.
Get out, shoot. We're all gonna die someday, and I for one, aren't gonna bitch about a few megapixels, or FPS here and there.
LIVE LIFE !! Take a photo.
I agree, we have sometimes to come back to "basics", to what LIFE is giving us. Sometimes not so fine, but you're right, we should have to appreciate and like what we can enjoy day to day, specially in photography.. Might be that we could consider we are now in a kind of new "golden age of photography", with a huge amount of possibilities. Even if all is not perfect ? Mpix, Framerate aso.. are not the most important and anyway, we will allways waiting for better specs, which will come or not..? With time Mpix and others tech specs will be forgotten, photos remain ! That's important.
select: I have this camera and I love it! It produces such high quality images... for sure it's the best camera in this segment, but Nikon should advertise a lot more.This camera destroy the Canon 650D/700D
A camera must be good not only with technical specs on paper but during shooting too..! Do you tried a Canon 700D or 70D ? Try and then tell me what you think about, still and video. Yes the D5300 could be a good camera but guys who own a 70D are also very happy with. Actually Canon is not destroyed at all.
(unknown member): Dear Adobe,You are trying to innovate into the future but all you're doing is embracing a pricing scheme that will never, ever work. There are some situations where people are more likely to accept taking it in the rear for the privilege of using PS CC on their PC, but I very seriously doubt LR on a tablet will ever get any traction as a subscription service. $99 for the app is one thing, $99 a year makes me want to find your face and laugh in it. Modern Canon cameras come with an app that will allow immediate wifi access to images and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they wise up some day soon and also release a DPP Mobile version. Adobe, you are far too confident in your market superiority and you are phasing yourself rather than becoming more relevant.
Yes I agree with your comment.. and my main question is "what to do with LR on mobile..?" Pads are completely closed systems. It's more convenient to buy a Macbook Air or equivalent to use a classic LR version ? I don't see any interest for this solution. The annual price seems for me as a real joke. On the other side, I'm a C1 user, better than LR, gone from Adobe with their "PS exclusiv cloud story".NB : Adobe announced that LR will be a delivered as "non cloud application in every case.." : really ? So what with this announcement, if it's not a fake ?
MikeFairbanks: My previous post is tongue-in-cheek, but the event is very real.
Adobe said the Creative Cloud is a year-long committment. But since I signed up via live chat with an Adobe rep, I believe I was mislead. I even appealed and was denied through the appeal process.
To require a year-long committment shows me that they don't have enough confidence in their product that you'll want to stay with them.
I'll continue buying stand-alone software in the future. I don't want a subscription-based service, especially one that locks you in for a set amount of time. That's just desperation, in my opinion.
Plus, all I really want is Photoshop Elements. I use Canon's FREE software for my raw files (it's almost as good as Lightroom and just as fast).
Yes, DPP is better and faster as LR4/5.. (RAW), at zero cost. Of course LR do more in other aspects.C1 too is much more better than LR and do the same !
RudivanS: How does it compare to DxO Optics Pro 8 re. image quality rendering?
@Rudivan5 : you're right, color rendering of DxO and white balance is often a question to discuss about. Try to crop a picture and then compare with previous state just by clicking on image..! The manner they remove dust spots should be changed too : in some cases you don't see them on original non processed image but only on adjusted/modified image. But you'll have to remove them from initial image. Good luck !
Another important point to mention, for some users who own several PC's : license with DxO is installed almost forever on a specific computer. When reinstalling or buying a new system you've to contact service to transfer license. With C1 you do it yourself on PhaseOne site.. the best license management available !So you can't switch from one computer to another quickly, what is possible with C1.
ZeevK: I do not understand why the need to release new s/w version each time support added for a new camera? Why not use DLL or a plug-inn? I am really glad C1 now supports "300 different camera models" 298 of which I will never need... And it's not only C1 but also all the rest...
If you have bug-fix - release it as a bug-fix, if the u/g is only support for a camera I do not use - don't bother me..
yes they add new camera support.. BUT the main thing is possibility (new but still beta version) of importing LR catalogs under windows OS ! Previous release had already this feature under OS X (also beta).Sure that C1 is now competing with LR and attacking head-on.NB : DxO and Adobe too support hundreds of lens you probably will never use : a common thing ? So what ?
DxO vs C1 : DxO is unbeatable concerning lens correction but image rendering is, IMHO, far from the one you can achieve with C1. C1 is also easier and faster to use, DxO (Pro version !) is furnished with a huge amount of corrections and the way they process photos are not the same at all as C1 do. DxO keep with devotion since a long time some curious "behaviours" which are no so fine.C1 is more competing with LR, both work with catalog but C1 also handle simple photo directories. I'm not sure that one can tell "this soft or this one is the best..", it's useful to try before you decide. Easy because all these softs can be downloaded and tried !From my point of view and for my use, C1 is a very very good solution with which you can do all your workflow process and get Pro results. Price ? Not cheap for the Pro version but it's worth, really !!
Marcin 3M: Any news about CaptureOne competitive upgrade from LR?
@Marcin 3M : Phase One offer now a lower price for their software (-20% C1 Pro and 50% for C1 Express, upgrades and full version !). Fine, C1 is also better than LR, IMHO.
Cipher: To those sticking with LR4, what will happen when Adobe releases updates to LR5 that enable it to handle RAW files from new cameras?
@Cipher & @JayEm Photos : ok, LR5 upgrade is not so much expensive.. but C1 (now with lower prices !!) is in most areas much more better than LR. Rendering is obviously better and I have to do less adjustments to get what I want. Why to stay with a company which is trying to trap customers within their system ? DNG is already an abortive project, probably used by people who have no access to their image format with a non upgraded LR. Time will tell...
Pythagoras: off topic, but... why do CF cards still exist?
@Josh152 :Sorry, but your comments are wrong.. on Sandisk page, the related speed are "read speed" NOT write speed..! Have a look on Rob Galbraith's page who has seriously compared almost all wellknown CF and SD cards.Size of CF cards : do you shoot sometimes in winter in hard conditions and have to change your memory card, eventually with gloves ? Likely not. CF is very big compared to additional battery, lens, filter aso..that you normaly have in your bag ? It's a joke no ?I use CF since 2003 and had never any trouble with connection although pins are supposedly not ideal, but they're well protected.The main reason why CF are faster than SD is the fact that CF has its circuit driver IN the card unlike SD cards which are driven from DSLR directly, thus processor load during shooting is higher with this card. This certainly also explain the significant price difference..I use both SD and CF cards on a D800, write CF speed from Lexar and Sandisk are far above best available SD card.