Cliff Whittaker: I started reading the comments below to see if I could find some interesting or useful information coming from the posting heads. I didn't.
Same for me. As usual, it seems DPR comments, particularly those concerning Canon's DSLR (?), are since a long time only complains about things Canon should do and don't should do..?Here is the point where I merely stopped to read comments because constructive and significant ones are actually very rare..
munro harrap: Looking at the sample Ken Rockwell got as is on the Canon website, the floral lady shot , made by a pro in a studio under controlled conditions has more noise than resolution.
I doubt somehow that its original was anything less than a RAW file. Tragic. Inexcusable. Its as though somebody grabbed an old 1Ds MkI sensor and uprezzed it to double the resolution. The 1Ds MkI has very high image quality at base ISO, absolutely no visible noise at all, and interestingly has a similar fine sharpening gizmo you load onto it as a default sharpening with the camera linked to a computer.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but an image has to CONVINCE. The online Canon samples dont at all. Tragic- all that investment, tragic, really sad.
Sample Ken photo is jpg output..! Ken always had a "specific" color rendering and it's difficult to get a final judgment with this kind of picture.Many writings talk about the "noisy" 5D MkIII.. curious but I don't have the noisy pictures they spoke about, even at 3200 ISO with bad or difficult light conditions (RAW with C1 v8). Best way is to test yourself at the right time ?
WalterSrChat: The haters are out in force!:)
Yes, difficult to read a positiv and argumented criticism here.. a pity. People want all possible features but of course for a lower price than the previous camera.. If not perfect they switch to Sony, Nikon aso.. They will really get ALL what they expect ? Not sure. Good luck !
Nuno Souto: Ho-hum, another week, another megapixel "war".Boring...As if anyone can use that for anything!When are these idiots gonna realize that photography has NOTHING to do with camera resolution?Oh, BTW: that goes for Canon and Nikon. Their marketing both suffer from early dementia.Good luck selling lots of that to surveillance camera users.Like Laforet and others of the same ilk.
Yes, I agree with that. D3s and D3x too are REALLY very good cameras. The only discussion, stupid and related to nothing but imagination of what should be the best photo, is about "resolution". What about use of their lenses on a specific camera and how they use them ? Nothing, curious, I hear nothing..!That's likely the reason why they have to change all time and are never satisfied ?!
sneakyracer: So basically the 5DS sensor is just an upscaled 7D2 sensor. We can expect identical performance at the pixel level then. That means pretty poor (for 2015) base iso dynamic range. (Heck! Poor for 2012!)
Sure ? Do you had any test performed ? No ? Just an assumption..!
Really, reading most of comments here I would like to sing the Stones song "I can't get NO satisfaction..!".
enemjii: Big deal. Tiny light wells, and hence limited to ISO6400. We just went back 10 years.
I don't agree, ten years ago so in 2005 we couldn't get 6400 ISO for a printable A3 photo. Nikon D2x aso..
dofkop: This is soo unsurprising after the string of disappointing DSLR releases - 7DmII, 6D, 5DMIII. So disappointing in fact I am considering trading in my entire camera bag and swapping to Nikon.
Just hoping you'll be satisfied and not disapointed after a complete knowledge of their offer and some annoying issues with last cameras..The "neighbor always has a better garden.." ? Yes ? Sure ?
cubicbert: Canon has not answered NIKON's Hi-Res supremacy in full frame cameras. This has probably created poor sales in professional cameras and lenses. It may be the least dumb, but it needs some game-changing technological breakthrough photo products to rev-up its sales and image (pun both intended and not intended).
@cubichertSome years ago, we had an opposite situation, Nikon was behind Canon in DSLR of photography segment.. Now Nikon seem to have a better sensor (but with other technical issues), but how long will this be true ? Tomorrow morning these things could change suddenly, because market and leadings are changing very fast.On the other hand, depending of what you're doing sensor alone is NOT the only parameter to take into consideration. If you own 10, 15k$ or more lens and camera gear, you'll likely not switch to another manufacturer just because there's a better sensor and/or a mirrorless camera ? For FB, Twitter aso publication.. of standard "consumer photos", a good smartphone is even sufficient and the certainly the best choice today. If you have to print your photo with best possible result, game is not the same.
There's no myth, only some preconceived ideas and from manufacturers pushed marketing considerations. Moreover, a lot of people commentaing here are trying to change physical laws concerning photography area.. The real question could be "what kind of photography are you usually doing and how often ?". After that it will be possible to know what kind of possible gear you could buy, related to available budget, for YOUR need. This choice is related to the quality level you'll define for yourself. As Photography is NOT an essential activity for most people (99% of users), it's only a life pleasure so we will also find here some emotional attitude.
NB : Of course, some Pros use simple APS-C cameras and some amateurs expensive FF cameras (here's the preconceived idea Pro use heavy expensive gear and amateur light and cheap one !). So what ? Everyone have to make his PERSONAL choice with his personal photography experience, period.
toni2: Full frame it's the best because have best image quality. That's all. It's so simple as why some photographers use fixed lens (not zoom). Best image quality. That's all. Do you want best image quality? go with full frame and fixed lens. It's simple!!Do you think that aps-c or m4/3 have good enough quality? it's ok. But it's not the best. Your thought it's not a fact, it's only an opinion.
Agree completely. If you go a little bit further, with medium format cameras you'll get even better images, certainly (same subject, same light conditions aso..). Choice of APC cameras and FF is depending of what you're looking for, advantages are not the SAME, why should they be ?@Matt Kolberg : IMHO, the mots important for the "best quality choice" is a good camera and more important : the best possible lens quality !!! It's the real and relevant choice you have. The differences on field between different formats and cameras (same class of course) will be done by LENSES and not mainly by cameras.Nowadays, people are choosing mainly their camera with all possible "geek features".. the choice should be done for lenses which will be used.Of course, not all people (actually few !) need and/or wish the "Best Quality" with expensive, heavy gear.@hifimaclaner : APS-C camaeras improved with time.. FF cameras too you know ? Tell us what APS-C could compete with a D810 ?
TLD: There is definitely something about full frame. My seven year old 1DsMK3 is still my go to camera, while my 1DMK4 only comes out for the occasional shot where high FPS and decent follow focus are required. The 1Ds3 is rubbish at follow focus.
Curious, I don't had this behaviour with my D3s.. very fast and reliable, but perhaps now in comparison with a D4s a little bit old on the "focus side" ?
TimR32225: Translation: They did not include the Canon 1DX and Nikon D4s because those are the two best cameras available and it would prevent them from touting the Sony offerings that DPR is so fond of.
Since this article is entitled "HEAVY HITTERS" doesn't it seem strange to anyone that they omitted the 2 heaviest hitters of all?
@Donny : you're probably right when saying D4s / 1Dx are not to be mentionned here. These cameras are for pure professional use or special use like sport, wildlife.. areas where they are absolutely unbeatable (reactivity, speed, sturdiness). NO other standard camera, even at these Pro prices, if available, can compete if you consider these features. I had D700, D800E and D3S : no discussion possible.If you have REALLY used one of this Pro camera you'll understand what is meant here ! If not, don't make any non-relevant comment please. Comparing a Sony a7 or D750 or so with these Pro cameras has NO sense. Use is different, built is different, price too of course. A Ford Focus or similar is different from a Porsche 911.. Both are useful of course but are intended for different uses and people.
NB : 5D MKIII is still today a very good, fast and reliable allround camera. Supposing right lenses and RAW software are used (not ACR). A camera is never used without a lens, no ?
Ramjager: Love the contradictions and hyperbole in this write up.What fantasy world does the reviewer live in pointing out the camera has more cross type sensors yet somehow it cant hold a candle to the 810??I mean come on just cut the rubbish.The Mk3 has the same tracking module as the 1Dx the best along with D4S sports camera in the world and somehow its "lagging" behind?Sophisticated AF system yet its lagging?Rather than writing hyperbole rubbish just stick to facts please.And please show me how it cant "hold a candle" to an 810!!Because of face recognition?Ygbsm.If thats what you consider important with a camera i think the reviewer shoukd stick with their Iphone.
Agree completely.. DPR reporter is joking, really. Not serious at all. They have here to forget their "Geek" position some time, make some pictures and then try, if possible, to rewrite a "serious, relevant and real user" report !Another thing which is not mentionned in all these reports is the big and important relationship between camera and lenses..! I don't choose a camera not only for it features but also and mainly for the available lenses. This point is certainly as important as camera itself.
rob Ernsting: Having used the latest versions of LR, DPP, DxO and Capture One I can affirm that none is perfect.But since a year I use without exception Capture One as my prime source for RAW data conversion as best suited in all cases. I have now ver. 8.1 and love the result. I dislike the archive system but that applies to LR as well.The best of all options is Capture One in my opinion.
Same for me, C1 seem to be one of the very best and powerful solutions today, even if there's some things I wish to be added : i.e more lens corrections. Some important and most used lens are not in C1 list !DPP v4 too is great for Canon users but need an additional solution to get final best result.NB : with C1 you can also work with "directories" and not use "catalogs"..
Marty4650: There seems to be two extremist schools of thought on camera design:
1. Buy the black version. Cover all the logos and markings with black gaffer tape. Make it as discrete as possible to avoid distracting your subjects, or tempting thieves. Form must follow function.
2. Pimp it out. Give it gold highlights. Add exotic wood grips. Make it eye catching so it will attract attention. Dazzle all bystanders with your good taste and and your ability to pay for luxury goods. Make it a fashion statement. Sometimes you can even rebadge it to draw even more oohs and ahhs (like the Brikk).
But most people want something between those two extremes. A nice looking camera that doesn't shout "LOOK AT ME" or "STEAL ME."
Well analysed and said ! IMHO the first case seems to be the best to take pictures in various conditions, particularly if you won't to be seen (street photography, wildlife and secure travel conditions with your gear..) and in some areas where you could possibly leave your gear...inevitable to leave in fact.
The second case is simply a proof of narcissistic autosatisfaction for the user and an additional business for Nikon. Nothing to do actually with real photography. Even if this camera is pleasant to look.
love2travelfar: It took them 16 years to improve something everybody was asking to be improved. Imagine if that was introduced 10 years ago when Canon was EVERYTHING. People would be waiting, not sleeping for the announcement. Now - nobody cares much I'm afraid...
You can tell same story about the Nikon 80-400...! Conclusion : there's a user logic and an enterprise logic. They move on different levels.
Kinematic Digit: I refuse to buy or recommend any Lacie products anymore. They have one of the worst failure rates of their products out there.
The service support doesn't exist with them with issues, and in certain cases (such as out of warranty), they will advise people to buy a new product for 15% off instead of repairing problems that have been well documented and mentioned by other including on their own support forums.
NEVER BUY A LACIE PRODUCT until they have fixed their QA issues, warranty issues, and put in place a proper after warranty program.
The LaCie D2 external boxes are very good now.. the problem come from the HD they used in these boxes : Seagate which are the LEAST reliable units on market (some MTBF are arround 8 months !) are almost choosen provider (Seagate own LaCie now). Conclusions doesn't came from me but from a study made by an independant enterprise, which have made comparisons of the main manufacturers like Toshiba, Samsung, WD, Seagate and others. Seagate was very good some 15 years ago, now it's a pity looking at reliability ranking. Last in the comparison list..!IMHO I see no need of this expensive, middle performance "rugged" HD.. Take the 2 Gb or 4 Gb WD Passport Pro, you get more speed and security (mirror copy RAID). On the other side WD service is really very good and speedy, I've experienced in the near past.
geoglyphs: 12 is de Haus des Sports on the Stalinallee, now called Karl-Marxallee:http://www.berlinermaueronline.de/berlin-fotos/berlin-1950/berlin-1950-008.htm
Worth going through that whole slideshow by the way.
Yes, the gallery you mention is worth to go through. Thanks for information.
InTheMist: Nice! I think this one is better than the first set.
Hello,depending of what you "wish to see", the two collections doesn't show the same situations and not the same time. Second part was clearly reconstruction, the first just ruins and disaster. For people who lived there during these years, the meaning is not the same of course. Actually I like both.