LeVerm: Oh!… Ca-n-ikon… as usually… Why not Pentax K 50? I can't see any real "plus" of these two cameras over the K 50…Well, Iill still keep my hopes!
have you considered using glasses?
FrancescoC: Ridicolous, you advice all the DSRL cameras in this category! For a true advice you must be more selective. This article is useless and is only marketing for the brands.
have you read the page 9? have you?
Ciskje: In this target, movie capability are important, only 100d and A58 have acceptable performance.
acceptable performance due to autofocus? serious video shooter never uses af, so...
in image quality department, d5300 is the best for video, by far.
Nex-6 + metabones speed booster would give me a better "pure photography" experience at half the cost.
It's time to give to RX10 a proper look.
The only thing I see is "Nikon D4 sensor for less than $3k"
Benarm: wow, the RX100 MKII is doing pretty well in low light ISO!
You guys need to check tonal range and dynamic range measurements at DxO
Nishi Drew: Reading the comments, it is clear how many people can't handle switching lenses :)
Moizes, the amount of light in a aps-c sensor through an f/1.8 is about the same as in a fullframe sensor through an f/2.8. That's exactly the reason that fullframe sensors has better iso performance. If you could take a little of thinking you would got it by yourself.
And FYI the math behind this conversion is f-number times crop factor (1.8 x 1.5 = 2.7 which is almost 2.8)
ps: I believe that peevee's calculation was 2.8 x 1.6(canon) = 4.48, almost 4.5. I did 2.8 x 1.5(nikon) = 4.2, almost 4.pps: you're welcome for the lesson.
I was just trying to compare the 18-35mm and 17-55mm.
In fact, despite several times more expensive, nothing beats the 24-70mm + full frame combo (in versatility aspect).
18-35mm f/1.8 (APS-C) = 28-55mm f/2.8 (FF)17-55mm f/2.8 (APS-C) = 28-85mm f/4 (FF)
35mm f/1.8 + 1.5x crop in post (APS-C) = 85mm f/4 (FF)
Conclusion: the sigma can be as versatile as the main 17-55mm, probably even more. And at a much lower cost.
Juck: So if an EF version was used on a NEX 6 with the metabones speed booster, would it effectively be a 12-24mm F/1.2? Or would the Focal length and max aperture remain the same because it's not a FF lens? My head hurts.
maybe the lens would have no vignetting on fullframe @ 35mm, just like what happens with tokina 11-16mm and others. The effort would be kinda worthless, since there are brighters 35mm out there.
Lightpath48: A number of those commenting wonder why one would buy either of these cameras. I bought the P7700 at $389 from B&H. That's the cost of one lens for a system camera, and I don't have to haul a bag full of bodies and lenses in the field to be versatile. The slower performance is more than made up for in the image quality. When I want the performance of the DSLR I use the DSLR. Lately it stays home and the P7700 goes out in the field. It's that good.
It's not about price, IMO. It's about having a wide angle, portrait, telephoto, macro, all in only one device that fits in your jacket.
The difference of image quality to large sensors is not too important... what really matters is how much image quality is enough for your needs. I think.
fuego6: just curious - why would anyone buy one of these cameras now a days?? I mean - I owned a G9 and loved it to pieces... but with many mirrorless cameras not much larger in size - why bother with these small sensor P&S's?
If you could use a bit of imagination you would see the perks and versatility of a small zoom all around lens.
The sad thing about that is imagination should be something good for photography.
I think that there are some points everybody here is ignoring. Battery. Its been a real fight to keep smartphones up for more than a day with the constant and growing use of them. More complex lenses, sensors, processing, etc, might kill the battery fastly and I do not need to say the implication of that. Digicams, in the other hand, are not so constant and massively used, being able to last long enough despite all the complexity. Thats the major barrier, I guess.
I don't like bags like this. Lowepro flipside is the best to me.
I know a few guys who would like to have one of these nice little things in their bags as B-camera.
wow... this is a real specific article. I do use the gradient tool for a hundred of situations, and the guy give us just only one.
Nice, I'm sure this helps a lot of people. NOT.
OM-D E-M5 or NEX-7 better?!
jpeg shooters are unbelievable