rolis10: Was on the phone with a Pentax Rep. this morning. He said no battery grip option and no entry level designation. It starts with the k30 and gets better. BTW, super nice folks at Pentax. Down to earth. Love this company and their products. Pentax por vida!
Well, Don't know why they would do that, but seriously I like the way this cam is styled .. very much better than another remake of a blob of melted jello .. LoL
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Posted on May 23, 2012 at 14:34:09 UTC
interesting addition , but I will have to wait for some real data from lens reviews and real field shoot to see how it goes. M4/3 lens, with their inherent way of optical design intentionally under - designed. Can be misleading just by looks.
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Posted on May 21, 2012 at 08:39:29 UTC
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Yehuda_: You're wrong - m43 has pancake standard primes such as the 20mm and 14mm made by Panasonic
Well, APS-C ( NEX ) or M4/3 , they both don't get decent compact fix focal as AFAIS. Oh yes there is some pancake lens with M4/3 and there is the 16mm for the NEX; but they fail by the part of either being slow or either inferior in delivering native performance.
So far the only proven compact and fast one is the Samsung NX 30mm/2.0 , Panasonic, Olympus, and Sony should take a lesson out of that. By all account, its mirrorless, and the most common usage is to be an on the go and go anywhere anytime cam. Shouldn't it occur that a fast and proper lens should be there. Now since Samsung, the newest kid on the block can made it, so can others. They just choose to charge us the price but without giving us the deed. Where's the beef shall we ask ..
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Posted on May 17, 2012 at 06:14:54 UTC
nice evolution of the NEX-3 series. Build in flash - check ; proper grip - check ; HD Video 1080X24P - check .... and well ... seems Sony got this nailed down pretty good.
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Posted on May 17, 2012 at 06:10:12 UTC
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brendon1000: This is ridiculous. Instead of speding tons of $$$ in research of new cameras why don't they spend their money on making sure their cameras and lenses are more available ?
Their lenses and bodies are hardly available anywhere so even those who want to buy their cameras and lenses simply cannot.
Guess that's a question of Hens or Eggs first.sure it would be great if they can have a widely available network of retail supplu, but business wise, if they do not have a critical mass of lineup , then it won't help.
Anyway the retail network part is somewhat different in different locale too. These days the North American market is pretty much a torture for any retail type business and I guess that's one reason why its hard to push new brand.
Samsung should consider how they can market theirs online with online retailing, and solidify their stock and delivery. Its of no use if customer cannot get their hands on actual product
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Posted on Apr 19, 2012 at 11:04:02 UTC
I am sure Cine and Videographer would be excited about the entry. No less the mainstream intro to 4K ( but still way too expensive for most ). But for real I am not seeing anything revolutionary to the photographic side, not even evolutionary in fact. The 1DX had in a fashion do it fine to integrate the 1D / 1Ds duo, and from what its like looks absolutely fine with most.
The real breakthrough in these years , as regard photography and stills is the new form factor of mirrorless and the new generation of sensors which canon seems both slow to react and innovate.
That much is the case with Canon right now. I do like the way they do the 1DX, but together with the 5D-III its not like competing with the other big gun, Nikon's D4 + D800 + D800E instead. And Sony is hot on the heal.
Even my Cine side of the hobby can't bring myself to like the 1D C, when I am seeing Sony's FS700 and the like of such from Panasonic coming.
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Posted on Apr 14, 2012 at 23:04:39 UTC
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Seems a bit too late for the big O game party. After all , real PRO who would be needing this need time to work put the gear, the workflow and all the bits and so. and this late delivery is not going to help
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Posted on Apr 12, 2012 at 15:44:51 UTC
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Pretty much what I expected. I have always find the X3F capture to be pretty much ISO 400 Max and to be fair, the color is not that great. it would require radical tone mapping from the RAW. Making might be very punchy contrast, but in reality lacking the fine tonality for real. That's what I am seeing in old SD series and this review re-affirm that.
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Posted on Apr 11, 2012 at 06:18:48 UTC
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powerbook duo: I know the e-mount flange focal distance makes it pretty much compatible with anything, and you pretty much can find an adaptor for just about all lens evermade, but Would it hurt to have some Sony-branded PL mount adaptor in the box?
For a Camera this serious, e-mount lens selection is a joke,
It's not like Sony don't know how to make one, their higher end CineAltar does come with PL mount, even Canon knows enough to make one for their camera too,
I am with you, the E mount need top notch lens that are fully compatible.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2012 at 14:47:47 UTC
Debankur Mukherjee: Do we really need 4K and 8K resolution for our Home Theaters. I think 1080 is more then enough for a consumer grade handycam..........8-)
Sure we might not need 4K or 8K for our home theater, but then the FS700 is not mean to be consumer product either.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2012 at 14:46:11 UTC
David Kinston: Reading all these comments with some amusement. IMO most DSLRs from the last 2-3 years are plenty good enough for 99% of uses. All this discussion is about features that have 0.01% effect on RL photography, the other 99.99% being the photographer's skill, and luck. And that takes study and dedication, unlike the nitpicking we see here! Anyone can download a huge image, examine 3 pixels, and express an opinion. But does it mean anything? I think not!!!
Very well said, I am amused that people would talk about image quality from the one sample here. Though I do agree the studio shoot do present us with an idea how those sensor capture and deliver at various ISO ( RAW ) and how much one can realistically expect from these cam with a decent capture.
But that's about it, its a test that had little to do with RL image quality.
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Posted on Mar 21, 2012 at 11:30:54 UTC
twelvevoltguy: These samples seem extremely bogus and misleading. For example when looking at the face on the queen of hearts, compare the Sony NEX 7 to the Nikon D800. The Sony rocks the D800's world with sharpness. It also trumps the 5D Mark II and the A900. Am I to believe that this compact sony at less than half the price and with an APS-C sensor delivers a sharper result than the newest prosumer SLR?
That might not be that bogus, take a look at result of RAW especially with D700, and D7000 vs that of the D800. the D700 almost always look sharper, but that had to do with the fact that its a 12MP and at such magnification still deliver more or less sharp but for a 36MP at 100% crop its a lot more magnified.
Instead of thinking of how sharp they are, think about how much detail definition those cam can retain or deliver and what kind of info is captured. I find it rather interesting to check the D800 vs D700 vs D700 ( add NEX-7 just for fun ). Do that on RAW also and its a lot more revealing
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Posted on Mar 21, 2012 at 11:22:57 UTC
YAWN ... a new items reporting on a rumor ( a strong one might be ) ... Can't we just have some real effort and articles. Say the long awaited review many are waiting for that sitting back there.
DPR used to be quality and dedicated on their news reportage, now its just viral and trying to be ...
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Posted on Mar 20, 2012 at 15:46:17 UTC
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It was so fascinating to compare the result with that of the Panasonic GX-1, samne form factor, same sensor lineage, but clearly different approach ( even with RAW ) .. on the other hand, bring up also NEX-5N, Samsung NX200 on RAW also and it tell how little difference there is at base or mid range ISO.
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Posted on Mar 18, 2012 at 21:09:50 UTC
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Certainly a logical step to take , and interesting development otherwise ... Let's hope Ricoh's very nice GR-D and GXR and Pentax K-5, 645D technology can cross pollinate and give us even better more innovative products.
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Posted on Feb 9, 2012 at 11:41:41 UTC
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rolis10: Was on the phone with a Pentax Rep. this morning. He said no battery grip option and no entry level designation. It starts with the k30 and gets better. BTW, super nice folks at Pentax. Down to earth. Love this company and their products. Pentax por vida!
Well, Don't know why they would do that, but seriously I like the way this cam is styled .. very much better than another remake of a blob of melted jello .. LoL
interesting addition , but I will have to wait for some real data from lens reviews and real field shoot to see how it goes. M4/3 lens, with their inherent way of optical design intentionally under - designed. Can be misleading just by looks.
Yehuda_: You're wrong - m43 has pancake standard primes such as the 20mm and 14mm made by Panasonic
Well, APS-C ( NEX ) or M4/3 , they both don't get decent compact fix focal as AFAIS. Oh yes there is some pancake lens with M4/3 and there is the 16mm for the NEX; but they fail by the part of either being slow or either inferior in delivering native performance.
So far the only proven compact and fast one is the Samsung NX 30mm/2.0 , Panasonic, Olympus, and Sony should take a lesson out of that. By all account, its mirrorless, and the most common usage is to be an on the go and go anywhere anytime cam. Shouldn't it occur that a fast and proper lens should be there. Now since Samsung, the newest kid on the block can made it, so can others. They just choose to charge us the price but without giving us the deed. Where's the beef shall we ask ..
nice evolution of the NEX-3 series. Build in flash - check ; proper grip - check ; HD Video 1080X24P - check .... and well ... seems Sony got this nailed down pretty good.
The NX1000 looks promising as the photographer's carry around DC replacement.
brendon1000: This is ridiculous. Instead of speding tons of $$$ in research of new cameras why don't they spend their money on making sure their cameras and lenses are more available ?
Their lenses and bodies are hardly available anywhere so even those who want to buy their cameras and lenses simply cannot.
Guess that's a question of Hens or Eggs first.sure it would be great if they can have a widely available network of retail supplu, but business wise, if they do not have a critical mass of lineup , then it won't help.
Anyway the retail network part is somewhat different in different locale too. These days the North American market is pretty much a torture for any retail type business and I guess that's one reason why its hard to push new brand.
Samsung should consider how they can market theirs online with online retailing, and solidify their stock and delivery. Its of no use if customer cannot get their hands on actual product
I am sure Cine and Videographer would be excited about the entry. No less the mainstream intro to 4K ( but still way too expensive for most ). But for real I am not seeing anything revolutionary to the photographic side, not even evolutionary in fact. The 1DX had in a fashion do it fine to integrate the 1D / 1Ds duo, and from what its like looks absolutely fine with most.
The real breakthrough in these years , as regard photography and stills is the new form factor of mirrorless and the new generation of sensors which canon seems both slow to react and innovate.
That much is the case with Canon right now. I do like the way they do the 1DX, but together with the 5D-III its not like competing with the other big gun, Nikon's D4 + D800 + D800E instead. And Sony is hot on the heal.
Even my Cine side of the hobby can't bring myself to like the 1D C, when I am seeing Sony's FS700 and the like of such from Panasonic coming.
Seems a bit too late for the big O game party. After all , real PRO who would be needing this need time to work put the gear, the workflow and all the bits and so. and this late delivery is not going to help
Pretty much what I expected. I have always find the X3F capture to be pretty much ISO 400 Max and to be fair, the color is not that great. it would require radical tone mapping from the RAW. Making might be very punchy contrast, but in reality lacking the fine tonality for real. That's what I am seeing in old SD series and this review re-affirm that.
The $599.00 Question though is : how will that " NEW "12MP perform.
powerbook duo: I know the e-mount flange focal distance makes it pretty much compatible with anything, and you pretty much can find an adaptor for just about all lens evermade, but Would it hurt to have some Sony-branded PL mount adaptor in the box?
For a Camera this serious, e-mount lens selection is a joke,
It's not like Sony don't know how to make one, their higher end CineAltar does come with PL mount, even Canon knows enough to make one for their camera too,
I am with you, the E mount need top notch lens that are fully compatible.
Debankur Mukherjee: Do we really need 4K and 8K resolution for our Home Theaters. I think 1080 is more then enough for a consumer grade handycam..........8-)
Sure we might not need 4K or 8K for our home theater, but then the FS700 is not mean to be consumer product either.
David Kinston: Reading all these comments with some amusement. IMO most DSLRs from the last 2-3 years are plenty good enough for 99% of uses. All this discussion is about features that have 0.01% effect on RL photography, the other 99.99% being the photographer's skill, and luck. And that takes study and dedication, unlike the nitpicking we see here! Anyone can download a huge image, examine 3 pixels, and express an opinion. But does it mean anything? I think not!!!
Very well said, I am amused that people would talk about image quality from the one sample here. Though I do agree the studio shoot do present us with an idea how those sensor capture and deliver at various ISO ( RAW ) and how much one can realistically expect from these cam with a decent capture.
But that's about it, its a test that had little to do with RL image quality.
I would be wanting the D800E on this test comparison though
twelvevoltguy: These samples seem extremely bogus and misleading. For example when looking at the face on the queen of hearts, compare the Sony NEX 7 to the Nikon D800. The Sony rocks the D800's world with sharpness. It also trumps the 5D Mark II and the A900. Am I to believe that this compact sony at less than half the price and with an APS-C sensor delivers a sharper result than the newest prosumer SLR?
That might not be that bogus, take a look at result of RAW especially with D700, and D7000 vs that of the D800. the D700 almost always look sharper, but that had to do with the fact that its a 12MP and at such magnification still deliver more or less sharp but for a 36MP at 100% crop its a lot more magnified.
Instead of thinking of how sharp they are, think about how much detail definition those cam can retain or deliver and what kind of info is captured. I find it rather interesting to check the D800 vs D700 vs D700 ( add NEX-7 just for fun ). Do that on RAW also and its a lot more revealing
YAWN ... a new items reporting on a rumor ( a strong one might be ) ... Can't we just have some real effort and articles. Say the long awaited review many are waiting for that sitting back there.
DPR used to be quality and dedicated on their news reportage, now its just viral and trying to be ...
It was so fascinating to compare the result with that of the Panasonic GX-1, samne form factor, same sensor lineage, but clearly different approach ( even with RAW ) .. on the other hand, bring up also NEX-5N, Samsung NX200 on RAW also and it tell how little difference there is at base or mid range ISO.
doesn't really matter how and why , right , cause the real deal is that it simply do not work .. plain and simple
Certainly a logical step to take , and interesting development otherwise ... Let's hope Ricoh's very nice GR-D and GXR and Pentax K-5, 645D technology can cross pollinate and give us even better more innovative products.
Applaud to renewal of the good old 24 & 28mm f/2.8 Canon do know the part about being a system for sure.