brownie314: Why all the talk of Samsung ditching the camera business. As far as I can tell, this article only says they are taking one camera out of one regional market. Not sure how to get from a to f on that one.
as Samsung's own statement had put it, its all the camera and camcorders, not just a single one
well, I consider myself a steady hand but I do not think I am steady enough to the point that I can safely warrant shake free capture for a whole second or more. Practically I think this still demand some form of proper support if wanting to maximize the quality to the capture.
Basically its old school routine now combined and automated, which is not bad. It would still be a better one still if the crop is not there or at least not so severe and that RAW data could be captured
sounds like more a cost-effective and cost cutting measure to simplify and speed up any work needed between submission and delivery.
It does not actually made much sense in term of avoiding over processing post capture, as todays in camera jpeg are more geared towards processed for eye candy rather than preserving captures. RAW then developed data is more suited for that.
is this et. classiqueof product really viable any more. there need to be some reasonibg through and some re boot to this class of products and not just Sony.
seems like, sounds like, and likely, paranoia
yeah right, but Sony should just give the option to the user to use or not to use lossy compression. and the Q on hand is, can Sony fix this via firmware update and if they would do it, or if this is hard baked into the physical hardware
Credit where's the credits due, Canon do in fact give us true innovation in optics with this one and these are far and few in between these days. Good work, guy, pls get working on the sensor please
New, am I being bemused, even back in old days when we toil long and hard hours inside the darkroom, a real darkroom, we have equipment to measure color and density of prints already and the same densitometer and colorimeter ( spectro-photometer ) in various form had been used in photo, cine, industrial, medical, research, academic, and military operations for decades.
So really I guess there's SOMETHING NEW everyday under the sun ; or is it ??
Franka T.L.: yeah … but how many native f1.4 lens do we have for Sony FE range, if we talk AF we are talking that, right and how about Canon EF lens with appropiate adapter doing , yhat need to be investigated
I must say the article title somewhat misleading here
Oh in addition, I think the test would benefit by testing the same low light AF performance using the mid range lens Sony have , the f4.0 Zoom(s) , the Cine specific 28-135 and well whatever that might be of interest to the more wider user populace.
Well to clarify, the like of D750 and Pentax K-3 II, and a number of others which do AF down to say, -3EV , do it as a body; that is they can do it with all compatible lens, not just fast lens. So in this case when the title say the A7R-II can match or best DSLR in low light , for AF , is to me rather misleading, as it imply the camera by itself can do that and obviously reader would assume this mean all lens ( in native mount ). Picture this, many use the camera with a set of the Sony f/4.0 Zoom , or would want to use the newly released 90 Macro ,, Might be if the tile had a secondary line added like " when and if fast lens are used " or something along that
Well , to be fair to Sony, those mentioned fast native lens now we have do cover the nominal wide to Long Focal , and that's the good news. The bad news of course is if you are not one who use these or need different coverage then .. well .. I do use the classic trio but many do not these days.
yeah … but how many native f1.4 lens do we have for Sony FE range, if we talk AF we are talking that, right and how about Canon EF lens with appropiate adapter doing , yhat need to be investigated
zodiacfml: Because the launch price was not in touch with the current market. The current change puts it similarly to an a6000, but that comes with an EVF, better AF, and better video. Still, it seems that the a6000 is a better buy.
A modest launch price should put it at $100 more than the GR.
Previously, I suggested a 24MP Sony sensor for the GR2. Yet, I realized it doesn't add value, only to improved the 35mm crop mode feature and will make the camera a bit slower due to the larger files. High ISO improvement is not practically huge.
to me the advantage of the GR is no longer with the GR-II when compared to like of like with the same time frame. The old 16MP sensor is now the bottleneck of performance which is what the likely buyer will be checking against. Don't even bother just with the A6000 , but take a look at the like of Panasonic GM-5 together with the 15mm or even just the Sony A5100 with the 20mm. Hey Samsung NX-500 with their 20mm is not that bad either.
The GR was launched as an up to date imaging hardware platform together with ricoh unique GR approach to UI and imaging ( soft side ) but the GR-II lack the first part and not much improved in the latter. So we are looking at what's more like a GR 1.25 instead of a II
Wild Light: Hasselblads Carerra is not the H. It is the original 500 and 200 designs, the best medium format design in history. It is, IMO, possibly the best ever camera and lenses ever and it is a design that the entire customer base was passionate about.
Hasselblad lost it's way entirely and to stick with the Porsche analogy, Porsche had enough sense not to follow it's 924, 928 design and go back to the 911. The H is the 928. Heavy, ugly, bigger and a mistake that should be ended!
Ok had to admit that for a time in those days I do drive a 924 and to be frank its way better than the ( then current ) 911 of same period .. similar with Porsche though this class of product is a lot about specialist and niche and if they can't match the niche need, then no matter how they try to model it , it will not sell
From all the articles and information now thus far surfaced; it seems to me there's still linger some Question regarding the optics. Ok so it essentially serve a dual purpose, or tri if you like, an imaging part ( your typical traditional lens ) ; a collimater part which align the incidence ray and a field flattener. Actually none of them are anything new, but Dxo did innovate in bringing them together in a new miniaturized package.
I did have 1 Q though, is there any soft correction on the RAW level as the wording seems like that's how they do it or is the RAW really just the actual imaged optical projection the lens delivered to the sensor
didn't Canon recognize that people wanting such a all in one mega zoom most likely would also want the EVF build in, and for us whao are not into that mega zoom range , might be the RX10-II and the FZ-1000 just more practical
well getting still image from Cine really is nothing new , it was a common form of capturing action ever since way back in those early film days. Digital had give us layman mortals what I would say possibilities. 8MP grab from 4K is cool. But I think lower MP grab with faster frame rate should not be ignored. Say the recently launched Sony RX10-II do 960 FPS at 1080P, Ok that's only what 2MP+ but if you need to capture the shoot , then its still good and 1080P still FHD already.
Andreas Voigt: $3200? Is Sony trying to kill their moderately successful a7 camera line?
Anything priced above $2500 is doomed to failure.
have to note that all the A7 variant since the original A7 are still cataloged and indeed even as OLD as the A7 goes its still going to be viable option today vs a many APS-C or even FF of todays. The A7R-II , is better seen as Sony's effort to keep pushing it up market and its very apparent in its Video implementation. That said I think Sony miss some of the very basics like uncompressed or lossless compression on RAW, dual memory card slots ( that's easy to get to ).
Well Samsung NX1 and now A7R-II VSI finally made it big ( literally ) .. really its quite an achievement by both of the S teams .. can't wait to see how well the BSI would work out on this sensor. Canon really can feel the heat now I would wager
I think Sony really deserve credit for the hard work they put in. First RX-1, then A7 series. Not only did they dare to fiffer from DSLR but also differ from established mirrorless too
iAPX: And why not a "modern anachronism" or even an Uchronia?!?
Maybe in this world of multi-purpose tool, it's weird something that just want to do one thingg: taking Black & White photos, and doing it well (I prefer to forget the video mode! lol). But I really think it's interesting to consider, and I wonder if Fuji or others will challenge Leica, with an interchangeable-lens Black & White camera, with an hybrid eyefinder.
Humbly agree, in principal, but not in this case as fact fir fact because that Mod.246 just do not elevate its imaging bracket of performance vs the Mod.240 as such that it warrant the premium. A lot of the price thus must be in the exclusiveness and uniqueness of the product rather than its actual ability as a photographic equipment. And being an old Leica owner user I still fail to see the point .. I'll just go back to my old trusty standard