If the rumoured 5dDMkIII spec is true let get some perspective when comparing to D800 with core feature.D800 wins in MP 36mp vs 22mpD800 wins in uncompress HDMI video and possibly audio with headphone inputD800 wins in price $3000 vs $3500
5DMkIII wins in ISO (native 100-25600 vs 100-6400)5DMkIII wins speed 6.9fps vs 4fps5DMkIII wins in AF points 61 with 41 cross pts vs 51 with 15 cross pts 5DMkIII wins in video bitrate 48mbs vs 24 mbs and moire handling
Of course I like big MP but to me the 5DMkIII looks more compelling.
According to Nikon Rumour poll survey most Nikon owners prefer the D800 to have smaller 16mp like the D4 that doesnt compromise ISO and fps rather than 36mp with lower ISO and slower fps.
Taikonaut: Dan Chung does not sound too optimistic that Nikon D4 and D800 video is on par with the 1DX and he is right to be cautious. He has played with both cameras. Despite uncompressed HDMI video out Nikon video downsampling is prone to severe aliasing and the 24mbs bitrate is considered rather low by today's standard which delivers less detail video and only a slight step up from the 3.5 years old 5DMkII mostly improvement made towards jello effect. The 1DX has about 48mbs bitrate. The 5DMkIII 22mp allows video downsampling to 1080p perfectly without aliasing and if the bitrate is as high as the 1DX it would easily produce superior video than either D4 or D800 with or without uncompressed HDMI out.
Yet you act as though I had said the 5DMkII is without issue. Read what I have said not try and imagine. Moire is just as bad on the D800 as it is on the 5DMKII. The only major improvement the D800 has over the 3.5 years old Canon sensor is the handling of jello due to the faster sensor and if you read my original post that is what I had said. Uncompress HDMI means very little if original video quality are already compromised.
Dan Chung does not sound too optimistic that Nikon D4 and D800 video is on par with the 1DX and he is right to be cautious. He has played with both cameras. Despite uncompressed HDMI video out Nikon video downsampling is prone to severe aliasing and the 24mbs bitrate is considered rather low by today's standard which delivers less detail video and only a slight step up from the 3.5 years old 5DMkII mostly improvement made towards jello effect. The 1DX has about 48mbs bitrate. The 5DMkIII 22mp allows video downsampling to 1080p perfectly without aliasing and if the bitrate is as high as the 1DX it would easily produce superior video than either D4 or D800 with or without uncompressed HDMI out.
Looks like the D800/800E is what most 5DMkII owners expect the 5DMkIII to be and the 5DMkIII is what most D700 owners expect the D800/800E to be. Canon and Nikon just traded place with each other.
mariuss: Very confindent from Nikon to match itself not even with Canon and the rest, but also with the high-end medium format.I wonder if Canon 5D (III)(X) will match at least the high ISO Performance and the DR from Nikon D800.
Medium format cameras are 16 bit which something a 14 bit dSLR cant comepete with.
I use to think wedding photographers like anything to do with weddings charges way too much. When my friends ask me to shoot their weddings (I've done 3 so far) we agreed to do cut price and I now understand why wedding photographers charges so much and fully justify the asking price. You are not just paying for the photos but hiriing someone to do an aweful lot of organising and managing a lot of strangers to pose who arent photographic models and still pretend to be polite.If an escort can charge her client hundreds of S for an hour of pretence attention why cant a photographer charge a few thousand dealing with fifty or more guests at a wedding?
tilariths: No 1080p30?
30fps is one of the least favourite frame rate. 24fps is what filmmakers want.
It is a useful camera for events or public places that bans people from shooting with a dSLR.
Paul D TV: The D4's video functionality is potentially very significant. I have gone into more detail about this on my blog: http://paul-d.tv/blog/2012/01/06/and-so-it-begins-nikon-d4-hdslr-announced/
"Two Live View shooting modesPhotography Live View and Movie Live View modes add flexibility; exposure, white balance, monitor hue, histogram, focus mode, AF area mode and focusing accuracy are easily confirmed."
Canon has that since 2007 with the 40D.
Lando79: Hey guy’s I’ve been reading your comments on this Camera. It seems there are quite a few of you are disappointed about the D4. It seems to be on the basis of Image Resolution and FPS. Think about what the pros want i.e. the journalists and sports photographers. If I was one, then I would certainly welcome the increased sensitivity to capture images at low light and low resolution… Imagine being abroad in a war zone, the last thing you’re thinking about is sharpness and image details – it’s all about capturing the story. Also, think about uploading a 26 megapixel vs. 16 megapixel image via satellite or 3g connection. It could mean an extra minute to transfer, and if your sports or news shot isn’t sent to the editor on time without hassle – its money lost. This camera makes sense to the pros not us hobbyist.The camera is more focused about the work flow and post productivity that allow photographers who work in fast paced environments. How many of you were willing to spend £4.5k anyway.
Compare to the 1Dx the D4 is a disappointment. The 1Dx is a full 2 stop better.
It looks like uncompressed HDMI video output only does 1080p 30fps which is only useful for web browsers. For filmmakers 24fps would be more useful.
"Multimedia" is so 90s.The 1Dx not only better but put some distance between itself and the D4.
Contrast detect focus tracking in video mode. Err can anyone tell me which current Nikon lens handle contrast detect AF tracking without being hampered by the limitation from the lens motor?This is a marketing gimmick and absolutely useless to videographers.
As I suspected, f8 sensitivity drops down to just a single AF point.
mpgxsvcd: I like the 1080p @ 30 FPS option and the ability to control the Flash output more accurately.
Actually NTSC cameras use 1080p @29.97 fps in 59.94i wrapper in HBR.PAL cameras use 1080p @25fps in 50i wrapper in HBR,
Well 26,000 shoppers does not represent the whole of USA. It may also be that more Nikon fanboys felt the need to visit MyProductAdvisor.com for some soul searching when choosing gears. Canon users tend to know more about what they are buying and feel less need to look for an advisory site. The proof of the pudding is Canon sells more cameras than Nikon which discredit the above survey.
dgc4rter: I'm sure this is good news for many but I'm a photographer, not a cinematographer. Video has never held any attraction for me and I can't see that it ever will. There are many with the same feeling too and it feels like we're being dumped on the wayside at the moment with so much attention to video technology and hardly any in the development of high MP, high ISO sensor technology for still photography.
The best thing Nikon could do now would be to announce that 36 MP dedicated SLR with better low-light, high ISO performance than the D3s. That's what would get my vote and my money.
Video in dSLR is great. People who don't like it because their camera don't have it or shoot with a Nikon.
It is a good job that shoot with a Nikon. Won't be saying that if your camera does good video.
Adam Filipowicz: I bet it will be $10k
Not quite like the GH2 crop mode which is 2x zoom.APS-H or 80% crop is still very large area while maintaining the DOF of FF.