Taikonaut: If this doesnt kill of dSLR I don't know what will.dSLRs with mirrors is an old concept from the film age that should have been fazed out years ago. Mirrorless is the way to go.
Having a mirror DOES NOT improve IQ. Its a throw back to the old days of single reflex cameras. So far most manufacturer did not introduce mirrorless on their FF but that doesnt mean people shooting videos need to put up with mirrors. Some had it removed.And did you know without mirrors it does not blank out the viewfinder.
ThomasSwitzerland: Retire adapters
Why adapters. Make it right the first time or move forward. Adapters are bridging technologies mostly not worth the price and results. The world is full of better solutions today, and even better, and for less money shortly (Moore’s Law still working for the smart). Save the money for something of today. For this adapter price in this forum context, it is just a rip-off.
Lenses are no more adapters built into a tube than adapters are on its own. Already have idiots who don't know the science behind the speed booster claiming it is just another novelty glass like SLR Magic.
If this doesnt kill of dSLR I don't know what will.dSLRs with mirrors is an old concept from the film age that should have been fazed out years ago. Mirrorless is the way to go.
kevindar: Its a great concept. a little expensive. at 400 I would order today. at 500, have to think about it a little.the only thing is for many, the mirorless in large part is about size and portability. I have a 5dIII as my main camera. the nex 5n is designed as a light couple of lenses alternative. there are a few canon lenses that may make sense on this, such as the 40 2.8, 35 f2 IS, 50 1.8, 85 1.8, and maybe the tamron 28-75 2.8. all lenses which are reasonably in size. Once you mount a 70-200 2.8 IS II on the nex, I would much rather be using my 5d3.
Not if Metabone brings out an EF to EF adapter.
Potential for BMD cinema camera with MFT mount using Canon EF lens turning the MFT or S16 size sensor to deliver S35 output is very appealing. Technically this turns a $3k video camera into something comparable to a $30k camera from RED.
Something tells me Canon will not sell many of this lens unless it drops to £500. Even if price is not a factor this is not the lens I would pick for anything from walkaround, events or studio.
D600 is uncomfortably soft even for RAW. Looks like the result of noise reduction. I rather have the option of applying my own NR.
Looking at these samples at high ISO the 5DMkIII has slightly more chroma noise than D600 but the D600 looks a little softer than the 5DMkIII. Even though the D600 has 24mp it has no resolution advantage over the 22mp 5DMkIII.
What I have notice is despite the MP being very close the 5DMkIII corner sharpness and detail is significantly better than the D600. Could this be the lens or are we seeing a limitation of diffraction and that anything beyond 22mp the trade off is very soft corners?
I thought NASA recently admit those clear moon landing photos were faked.
Despite D800E having worse video aliasing because of absent of AA filter dpreview still put the score for video the same as D800.
Forfie: "When a still image was captured while viewing existing images in playback mode, the monitor turned off, the memory card access lamp glowed steadily, and, in some rare cases, the camera ceased to respond to operations. This issue has been resolved."
I can confirm (D800), did a shoot this morning with the new firmware, no more occasional HUGE delays waiting for the monitor come back up, or having to power cycle.
Things are moving right along, thanks Nikon.
You are thanking Nikon for selling you a duff camera. This problem should not have happened when D800 was sold to the public. All Nikon did was releasing a firmware fix, they did not give you extra feature or performance enhancement over what they promise on the original spec sheet.
Earthlight: Both are fine cameras. That said, I feel this time Nikon hit a home run and this should be reflected in the scores. I shoot with Canon myself, but find the Nikon better and incredible value.
Of course you can make fine pics with both. But why review any cameras at all anymore if that is the sole criterion. The sensor in Nikon is leaps and bounds better. And no, I do not mean the pixel count.
69chevy: If you believe Canon missed the boat on the price, have a look at Ebay.
The D800 is selling for $3500.
The 5dIII is selling for $3500.
A product is worth what it will sell for. Nikon should have charged $3500...
They are selling the D800 at a bargain to sway customers back who left for the 5dII. The only problem for Nikon is the reputation of the 5dII in the video world.
It also doesn't help them that "The Avengers" filmmakers used Canon DSLRs in production, and the movie has grossed $1B.
Another thing that works against Nikon is third party hacks like Magic Lantern plus Cinestyles and video editors like Final Cut are design to make 5DII and 5DIII files look better for grading.Users of Canon C300, C500 and even Arri prefer to intercut video with footages from 5DII/III as seen in many hollywood production. I think poor moire & aliaising handling will rule Nikon out for future big budget cinema now that Canon can eliminate moire and ailiasing in its video.
JackM: Hmm, so lower pixel density really does equal lower noise, nice.
Serenading hey? You are basically telling everyone you are a old f*rt :)
When Andrew Reid of EOSHD opinion is given towards the 5DIII review it is hardly a surprise why the 5DIII video is given such a low score while every reviewers says the 5DIII has better video than D800. For the record Andrew Reid does not own a D800 and constantly badgers around drooling about some post processed D800 samples posted on Vimeo by others. He also thinks D800E has the greatest dSLR video when others warned about D800E removal of alaiasing filter would make it worse. To Andrew it appears resolution is the rave over aliaising for now. EOSHD's opinion should not be taken with reagrds to video reviews.
peevee1: DPR, comparing 5D3 with D800... D800 has got lower score on "features". What features does D800 miss in comparison to 5D3?
Guest what they score LCD screen the same for 5DIII and D800 even though the 5DIII has better resolution and more accurate colours.
The reviewer tries too hard to be different with his reviews compared to others but end up making himself lack credibility.
Taikonaut: Dpreview thinks the LCD screen rating for D800 is just as good as the 5DIII despite the fact the 5DIII LCD has higher resolution. Almost every reviews and users of both systems thinks Canon has better LCD by a country mile. Also D800 innacurate colour cast on LCD issue was disregarded.
There is a green colour cast which does not match the files. D700, D3 and D3s does not suffer from it.