ET2: The Nikon lawsuit reminds me of Apple's "rectangle with rounded corners" crap.
The cameras (functionally, sensor, software, lenses, etc) have nothing in common.
It's a DESIGN patent. The point is that it looks a hell of a lot like the Nikon (especially the lens/lens barrel).
As soon as I saw the headline, I knew from reading the original article that people would fill up this thread saying Nikon's lawsuit was stupid, even after the court agreed with them...
Catalin Stavaru: Basically, there wasn't a lot that was wrong with the EOS M. Autofocus is now fixed, picture-to-picture time much reduced, and Wi-Fi added. Basic very compact camera with the highest APS-C image quality. I am beginning to like it. Hopefully I can pick up one for $300 soon.
Compact quality is out there now- Panasonic GM1 plus 20mm 1.7, or Ricoh GR.
amfe: YEAHHH!!. This is Canon's answer to sony A7/r!!!
I think Canon's having a rough go of it. Their sensors are lagging behind, they're having quality control issues with some of their compact models, and now this.
At least on the surface, it seems like they're really misplaying their entrance into mirrorless. They seem to be holding back and crippling their system for fear of hurting their DSLR sales. At this point, it seems like a mistake. Mirrorless is established, and the EOS M won't be compared to DSLRS, but to the m4/3, nex, and Fuji mirrorless competition.
In that comparison, EOS falls short, and it just makes Canon look bad.
Gesture: For a beginner, I'd buy an Olympus E-PL1 with kit lens, still available for about $250. One of the best values in photography.
As an e-pl1 owner, its served me well but I'd never recommend someone to buy it new today. Speed and IQ have improved so much in m4/3 over the past couple of years. You can get the e-pm2 for around $400. If price is a real issue I'd go for the GX1, which is still an upgrade for not much more.
photo nuts: There seems to be a massive push by DPReview to promote mirrorless cameras. Just saying. :)
@xrokx, I think everything SkiHound said is pretty accurate.
LWS2013: nothing says dull, flat and lifeless quite like an M4/3rds camera
Strange, I thought just about every recent m4/3 release was interesting- EM5, GX7, GM1... all interesting and different. You've got slr, rangefinder, or compact styles, and plenty of lens choices to go with all those bodies.
Try one with a nice lens and see. I like the Olys for their beautiful jpegs myself, and think the 17mm 1.8 or 45mm 1.8 are a great place to start.
Lapkonium: Perhaps, this little camera has shown that megapixels and full-frameness concepts are a bit obsolete when judging how good the camera is... It's packed with features, and undoubtedly is the best of the "bigger" m43 bodies for stills. Gear of the year title totally deserved. There are 2 places left for Df and A7, again, deserved, – but these two are not universally better cameras after all.
E-M1's IBIS, lenses, speed, controls, combined with A7's sensor and DSLR-long battery-life would make a perfect MILC – but this day has yet to come.
Resolution requirements depend on a lot of variables, like size, distance to viewer, viewer's eyesight, etc. to determine when resolution is sufficient, but we really don't need massive resolution for most uses to improve the IQ. Higher dynamic range and less noise to better match the perceived capabilities of our eyes would be more important.
I like this article on the subject of cameras compared to the capabilities of the human eye: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/cameras-vs-human-eye.htm
AbrasiveReducer: First, I look for a camera with a gold award. That doesn't narrow things down much so then I see what Ken Rockwell recommends and buy something else.
dual12, if you're not getting enough of the coverage you want at dpreview, just stop paying for it...oh wait..
I agree that the EOS M launch was halfhearted here, and it played a role in the camera generally flopping. Regardless, the site doesn't owe it to you to review certain cameras over others.
iconne: I am looking for a quick buy on a camera to take to Thanksgiving as our broke yesterday. Please give me your thoughts. Leica DLUX4 or Panasonic LX7?
I'm trying to keep the price point down and this will be a family camera.
Definitely the LX7 if price is a concern- the DLUX is the same camera with a much higher price, just for the Leica badge.
whtchocla7e: I like the idea of such a camera but it's still a far cry from my favorite Olympus XA. I suppose I can continue waiting a bit longer for the digital XA...
We definitely won't be getting a full frame digital XA, but I would take a look at an updated version with, say, a 4/3 sensor and 35mm eq f1.8. Make it a cheaper, smaller, and simpler x100.
marike6: Another camera choice for "Gear of the Year" based mostly on convenience for walking around?
This new DPR theme of staff exaggerating DSLR size and the amount of effort it takes to shoot a DSLR is getting a bit old.
When you consider all the great cameras released this past year to have an untested, unreviewed camera that is Pentax Q tiny, and really TOO SMALL for even average sized hands is truly puzzling. Add the fact that it has no eye level viewfinder or the possibility to add one, makes this "Best of the Year" choice suspect at best.
If convenience for walking around and size/weight have become the new criterion for judging "the best of the best" cameras on DPR, I'll be inclined to seek out other review sites more focused on actual photography and less focused on ease of use and portability.
Give it a try man! You might enjoy the constraints of working with composition, finding the right scenes, and so on, even without the shallow DOF.
nathondetroit: Where's the imagination? 1" Sensor and a prime lens please!
Thats a pretty interesting thought- picture a pocketable camera with a 1" sensor, and say a 28 or 35mm fixed f1.8 lens, released for $499. It would really be a nice successor to the old film compacts...
Mike Walters: I just cannot see why, unless you are a journalist, you need to have a camera 'connected' all the time...unless you think that everyone ele is interested in everything you are doing....
I understand your point, but when it comes to marketing a product, popularity almost necessarily means good. They're in it to make money, not to please the critics.
justmeMN: "Strong 'rainbow' tearing effect in EVF", "EVF is hard to see outdoors".
A $1,100 mirrorless camera that's not as good as a bottom-of-the-line DSLR.
I would hope your $6,000+ professional 35mm body has a good viewfinder. :P
babalu: I think the scoring is a slap in the face of those who appreciate things like a tiltable EVF (which can be used in bright light conditions better than the rear LCD) and can also improve life for those who due to physical limitations cannot really crouch, squat, bend like young children anymore; and an electronic silent shutter that is not available in most of the compared brands. A gold award was due, I believe I am not alone in that assumption.
A slap in the face? Over an arbitrary award for a camera? Come on now, you're taking it too seriously. Take a breath.
Lab D: Maybe Richard can answer this. It is true that much of the size reduction is due to the smaller shutter mechanism and that if/when Panasonic goes with only an electric shutter weight and possibly size might be reduced even more?
I would love to see a camera that falls somewhere between the rx100 and the Ricoh GR- an m4/3 sensor, fixed standard zoom that is fast at wide angle, relatively pocketable.
I think models like this affirm the idea that Panasonic won't make it soon, as it would conflict with their m4/3 plans, but we can always hope!
Lab D: I can't believe how small the thing is! Imagine carring it in one pocket with a couple pancake lenses in another. With the 20mm F/1.7 it would be a great P&S camera to compliment a different micro four thirds camera.
... and yet most interchangeable lens cameras sold get by without it..
photo perzon: Not impressed yet
I would have liked a hotshoe, and I think the dial on top for focus mode is a wasted opportunity. If those were both sorted, I'd have a hard time keeping the credit card in my pocket, but as is, it tempers my enthusiasm. Maybe nit picky, but I have no urgent need to upgrade.
It's tempting. This thing with a 20mm and 45mm would make a super tiny kit.
Gesture: Would like to see Olympus do the same concept, even with a 24mm-90mm equivalent fixed lens.
The body could be a good deal bigger and it would still seem more pocketable as long as the lens retracted flush (or almost).
The rx100 is probably close to the limits of camera size to sensor size when a zoom lens is involved, but seeing things like the Ricoh GR keep giving me hope that an m4/3 fixed lens camera similar to the rx100 will be possible soon. Just make it longer and taller if needed to get it thinner! Plenty of people are slipping 5 inch smartphones in their jeans.
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