It's getting to the point where, after reading all the people's comments complaining about the Sony A7RII receiving "disproportionate" attention on DP Review, that I can only offer the Interwebs basic reply of:
You mad bro?
PhotoKhan: Now, I must agree with some here.
Although the A7RII is, undeniably, an exciting piece of equipment (...one that I am still considering, although not as highly as during the pre-launch/launch phases...) DPR's coverage of this particular camera is starting to be a bit disproportionate, if not in absolute, at least in relative terms.
For a site that has, over the years, failed to aptly cover such significant camera's as the Canon 1DMKIII, 1DX or the Nikon D4 and D4Ds this is becoming a bit too much.
For instance, how's having this much time and resources allocated to this one Sony camera impacting still not having a review of the Canon 5Ds/5DsR?
Having been a member of this site since... what seems like forever.. and reading reviews on the earliest of digital cameras and having seen the evolution of these tools accordingly, I can say that your claim is exactly what I've seen here in the past when Canon was rising to the top of the pile back in the early to mid 2000's - There were claims that DP Review were taking kickbacks from Canon and neglecting "important" cameras like those from Agfa or from Fuji (before the X series.. long before).. .. This is nothing new.. this is just the evolution of the camera. Take a look at sales numbers for all the DSLR companies and you'll see where/what is trending and why certain cameras garner more attention than others.
It's late 2015 and only now this is being noted? DP Review..welcome to 2006/7...
RubberDials: The journalists on this site must die a little, inside, when they read some of these comments.
I find that many people simply would never reply (or "talk") like that (abusive language, hurtful words etc.) to a persons face and yet they feel no way when they're alone, at home, behind a keyboard. It's a sad statement on what used to be a very very interesting place (the internet)
Just as nice as the A7 RII ... the Zeiss Batis lenses (I've been lucky enough to play with them)... that glass is ridiculously good!!
Suave: Lenses, they have to make the leses first. More and cheaper.
@Brownie314 That's an odd way of looking at it - not your fault mind you if it's been "beaten into you" by various websites - I have never ever heard of that. What I have heard is "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" - so if the lens is cheap, it's cheap and if it's an "excellent cheap lens" then it will render excellent photos for an inexpensive price - but then what of the "size" complaint? The Tamron 90mm Macro lens has always been a stellar lens - but the size? It just seems that some folks want their cake to be huge but have 0 calories too. :)
@Suave - that's funny.. because I have a 28mm, a 35mm, a 55mm, a 90mm and a 70-200mm sitting in my bag - all of them FE mount - Not to mention the upcoming Zeiss Batis lenses (25mm and 85mm) along with the current 16-35mm and the 24-70mm and the 28-70mm FE mount lenses - you'd swear there were no lenses anywhere - or is the complaint that there are no lenses that you actually want?
The complaints I'm seeing most often are the following: 1) Lenses are too expensive2) Lenses are too big and heavy for these bodies (Alpha)
Regarding #1 - sure, you can get a Canon or Nikon plastic fantastic for that price - look at the Sony 55mm.. it's expensive.. but look at the quality that you get OUT of that lens, how it renders etc. If you want to shoot just at f11 then buy a P&S camera or use your iPhone / Samsung
Regarding #2 - these are FULL FRAME BODIES - you want small lenses that can perform on full frame bodies? Then you're looking at lenses the size of Leica M mount lenses and to get lenses that perform exceedingly well at that size, then you're going to be paying the Leica M mount prices.
"Having said that, not too much will be sharp with the lens used at F0.95 anyway as, unsurprisingly resolution isn't at its best at that aperture."
I like that look.. not everyone needs, wants or aims for ultra sharp photos 100% of the time. The look is unique without PS work. I don't have an MFT system but if I did, I'd be looking at this lens.
Wow!! Another new Sony body!! They just keep getting better! Now... about those lenses. . . . . .
DaveCS: This is not a knock on the camera or the brand but more a question that has been asked here before. For all the "Hands On Previews" and "First Impressions Reviews" and such; will there ever be a full in depth review of any of the recent Leica cameras?
Thanks for that Barney!!
This is not a knock on the camera or the brand but more a question that has been asked here before. For all the "Hands On Previews" and "First Impressions Reviews" and such; will there ever be a full in depth review of any of the recent Leica cameras?
@bigdaddave then don't buy - pretty simple isn't it?
I've had this lens for about 3 weeks now and think that it may just make me a believer in this focal length / FOV - I usually have a love/hate relationship with it but for some reason, on the A7, it seems "right"
This lens is going to be worth the cash they're asking based on what I see so far. Well done Sony & Zeiss!!
I'm putting all three on my "want" list - I hope they can keep the dates listed as I originally thought the 90mm macro was shipping in March but I noted it's no where to be seen on any website; and now I read May - Oh well - as long as it gets here before summer gets moving.
"What will those photographers do now?
Well the good news here I think is that they’re so well-known, and they’re such high-calibre photographers that I doubt they’ll have trouble finding another job whether it's as staff photographers or freelancers."
Translation: They're out of a job - they get to pound the pavement and knock on doors to see if anyone wants to hire them.. .
I like that 35 and the 90 - time to put in the pre-order :) I don't know what people on here are complaining about... sheesh
Serious Sam: IBIS is good for low speed and still object. For shooting street where 1/250 is a norm then it isn't that useful.
I hope they have improve the AF tracking as the original A7(s) AF tracking just sucks.
With the 24mp sensor, I don't expect it to be a low light king like the A7S but lets hope they improve the noise performance by 1 stop and make it usable at 12800. That will be good enough.
You make assumptions when you state "This is not usable when you shoot (sp) walking people on street" - you make the assumption that the photographer wants to capture "still" motion (i.e. no blur due to movement of the subjects) - not all photographers may want still motion and may intend to shoot blur - I have done this myself many times while street shooting - and I would shoot low ISO film (ISO 100) at 1/15 - I get the type of images I want and I intended to get. Don't make assumptions that everyone will shoot the way you shoot or believe they should shoot.
Jogger: Is this even a viable market??? i.e. do people really mount non-Leica lenses on $8000+ Leica M bodies??? Wont your fellow 1%ers laugh at you??
As a Leica owner and user, it would be good to consider more than just the "cost" of items - the Zeiss glass IS good glass and is perfectly fine on M-mount bodies. I currently own Zeiss and *GASP* Voigtlander glass along with *GASP AGAIN* used Leica lenses. I really wish people would look past the dollar signs or megapixels or "Image Quality" when commenting on gear on DPReview.