Eddi D: I've used this site before a long time when searching for my 1st camera. Now I'm back for an upgrade. I currently own a Minolta 7D and Sony A100.I have the following lenses:Peleng 8mm fisheyeMinolta 50mm 1.7Sigma 15-30mm 3.5-4.5 DGTamron 28-75 2.8mm XR DISigma 70-200mm 2.8 EX DGSigma APO 2X EX DG TeleconverterI'm going to 'dump' my Minolta and give the Sony to my wife (she's small and it suits her perfectly). The new camera will be for me. I like shooting mostly sports. 70% outdoors (softball, bikingl, etc) as well as landscape (mountains, etc) and 30% indoors (kids volleyball and swimming). I am not currently doing it for money, but do plan on possibly starting.I have 2 questions:1. It seems the A77 and A77ii would fill my needs equally. But, is the A77ii worth the extra $300 (I've found both NIB and thinking long term)?2.Just to verify, my lenses will fit on both cameras, correct? I can't afford to change all my lenses. Thanks for any guidance you can give me.
You are missing out on the 85mm f/1.4 lens.Maybe wait for the Sigma ART version.I have the Minolta version and the images are just brilliant. Pity about the focusing which tends to hunt somewhat because of poor mechanical adjustment.
So far most other reviews give this camera a 9 out of 10 rating.What's up with DPR?I suspect there's the small issue of MONEY involved somewhere.
Miki Nemeth: With the 79 AF point Sony just missed again an opportunity to add touch-screen. The huge advantage of SLT vs DSLRs is that the PDAF module can be used in video/live view mode, too. Sony should have made the LCD touchable to compete against 70D or GH3/4. A77 is really the most versatile non-mirrorless APS-C camera and a touch screen would make it even outstanding. Sony is the most innovative company, but they cannot exploit their potential completely.
So what "new" feature will they have left to entice you with for the next iteration?Of course they knew we wanted the touch screen, they just want to have an ace up the sleeve to entice us to upgrade to the next version.This will be in combination with the new 65 cross-point only AF system coming next - after the Canon 7D II.All this in conjunction with the no-anti-alias filter and 28Mpx sensor.
Definitely better than my own camera ---- the A700 cannot get to 12800 at all, LOL!
DutchMate: The pic did not do the pretty girl justice..Then again frontfocus on the bud instaid of the girl.6400 iso at 1/400 shutter. Lower iso would been better.Looking at exif standard noise reduction set at 0. I would have put it at -2 or lowest possible when in dispare for jpegquality.
If the intent was to show the technical strengths of the camera then this photo is an epic FAIL!The camera should have been able to recognize the face and automatically focus on the eye, giving a clearly focused face.If the intention was to manually focus on the can, the result is STILL an epic FAIL because even the can is not sharp.Perhaps the photographer could explain why the nails are sharp???
Lassoni: There's really no way around it. This is hands down sony's best camera to date. They really should revisit this, maybe give it a sensor and/or mount of their A7s , aim to make it better @ low light than Canon 5d3 (much more cleaner than 5d3, almost 1DX spec), and get rid of the translucent mirror maybe. Keep the body as is, make it mirrorless with around 15-18 megapixel and give it FPS of 8-11.
Waiting for 18Mp, Mirrorless(or at least the ability to lift the mirror.., somehow...) with high speed AF and low light sensitivity AF down to -3EV[currently seems impossible...]Touch screen with focus select and AF by touch.
Alternatively to 18Mp - make 36mp with BSI, removing the anti-alias filter and allowing the semi-transparent mirror to be moved out of the way - or else simply have magnificent focus with the sensor itself....wihtout the mirror.....sigh!!!!
Is it just me or does the top of the baton seem to be sharper in focus than the face of the woman? Front focus, maybe?
Da hoss - still vary wary of da photoghrafar.....;-) !
LOL.. the horse is watching the photog like a hawk. Check it in all the pics!Must be the sound of the camera spooking it, what with the photog stepping in so close with the 20mm lens.
Seems like quite a lot of distortion in the lens....?????
I'm just getting this definite impression that Amazon/Dpreview is at loggerheads with Sony.They seem to be sending a message that Sony will be treated with scorn and contempt unless Sony ponies up some moolla somewhere.Why do I say this?Look at the treatment the Sony A77 mark II is getting even though it has been out on the market since August already.Then, this specific article is clearly sending the message - "Oh, sorry, we didn't see you there - your cubicle was so small and unnoticeable....!"
Great way to go, guys. Keep it up. Sony will soon cave in and spend some moolla as required.
The specs of camera and lens definitely makes me put this on the list to consider for the next acquisition. I've been Eyeing Sony's stuff and waiting for something rational to come out of their line-up - alas up till now, it's been a whole lot of ifs and buts. This Samsung revelation puts a whole new spin on things - the biggest probably being that Samsung products and service is excellent where I live, in contrast to Sony.If the image quality and AF performance works as hyped, Sony will be in deep trouble.I'm looking forward to the reviews on this system. My money is ready to spend.
If I'm not mistaken, Samsung will have used Schneider's technology in this one. Could be an interesting outcome with the image quality.
qwertyasdf: This might be the first and last time that I say this to a M43 lens:
It's priced reasonably. Given it's longer range than 70-200 FF lens, it is way way more versatile, and I have confidence in the IQ of a Oly HG lens. Oh....also, the 0.21x magnification, taking into account of the crop factor of M43 sensor, is class-leading.
...and unfortunately those lenses are all f/5.6 at the long end....almost useless in dark environments unless you have a very high ISO capabality in your camera - but then the weight will be killing you.....
800g for a f/2.8 lens is not bad. they might even have gone the whole way and made it f/2. I think they missed a great opportunity to create a really, really special lens here.
most of these pics are underexposed. no wonder there's such a lot of noise to be seen
Well, still no touch screen and still no tilting LCD, so crack your neck for low down shots continues....just a rant.
I don't understand the reasoning behind the 20Mp, surely one would want to improve image quality by having larger sensing elements at this level. I reckon 16Mp would have been more than sufficient for phone use. The extra real estate could then have been used for noise reduction.
forpetessake: This FF lens is far superior to the APS-C version. It's APS-C equivalent is 18-200mm f/2.3-4.2, which is quite usable, unlike the slow f/3.5-6.3. Or if you are using APS-C mirrorless put it on a focal reducer and get the same benefits. The APS-C version is just boring and slow.And as an observation, despite all those ignorant posts that crop sensor somehow means smaller lenses, because of smaller image circle, this is just another demonstration that image circle has little or no effect on the lens size.
I think the reference to f/9.5 refers to the increase in depth of field that gets associated with the APS-C size sensor when coming from the FF sensor in this particular case.
Someone else has probably made the same comment before but I'm too lazy to read all of them:WHY, WHY, WHY the silly f/6.3 aperture at the long end. At least f/5.6 would have been so much more appreciated.If NIKON can do it, then surely, so can TAMRON.Please TAMRON, get on the same page!!!!
The fact that this camera is able to use all the glass from the past 50 years is a sure indication of how Nikon has ripped off its userbase.
They could have made it such that ALL NIKON AF cameras made up to now be able to use the older glass, but they chose to force their supporters to buy new lenses - if this is not greed then I don't know what is.