NumberOne: PART 1:Although this is good news regarding stabilization and «Sony» upcoming cameras in general, I still wonder about the one year old - and some soon to be released - «OSS» FE lenses, which don't make sense anymore, ie, prematurely obsolete after one year of life only, or from birth; in all honesty, I don't buy the idea that the new A7SII can take advantage of both systems at the same time... :)As for the grip, although it's deeper and certainly will improve holding - something I was asking for a while - its shorter height implies less comfort and/or putting one's pinkie below it; not saying it's not better, but have to try to come to a verdict... :)Another Custom Button seems fine also, but only if one can choose whatever the available options from all the menus... ;)"Kudos" for the all-metal E-mount - from the A7S I suppose - something that all A7 cameras should have had since their launch!
To be Continued...
NUmberOne,It stands to reason that the combination should be better:There far less processing to be done by removing the two axes from the computational matrix and letting the lens deal with those.Less computation means faster and possibly better quality of response.
FrankS009: About a hundred grams (roughly 20%) heavier than the old model. The same weight as a Panasonic GH4, and more than an Olympus EM1. That frankly is heavier than I would like to lug around, not counting lenses.
FrankS009,Perhaps you should not be looking at FF then. You should be comparing APS-C to those Panasonic and Olympus cameras. Compare the weight of the A6000 and see whether that blows your hair back.
That's YOUR problem right there.
Yannick KREMPP: Just a quick (stupid ?) question: if you use a metabones adapter to use some canon glass, do you cumulate the IS from the lense and the IBIS ? How does this work ?
JonathanFV,Yes, you get IS with the metabones adapter for Canon. I've got one and can tell you it works.
ZAnton: Sony has good innovation in cameras, but its lenses are 1) extremely big and heavy (compared to CaNikon)2) very expensive, especially considering that they don't have IS like all others.
Zanton, so which other 50mm, 35mm, 20mm, 28mm, 24mm, 85mm, 135mm, 100mm, 14mm and 16mm lenses are stabilised?You can count the lenses from Canon on one hand and have fingers to spare.
povetron: I am quite curious if the A-7II and other upcoming Sony's system cameras will be affected with limited bit depth of raw files, like A7/A7r.
14 bit in raw - see Japanese blurb.
How can this be a PRO lens if the largest aperture is only f/2.8?Given the small size of the sensor, from the photos I've seen taken at that f-stop, the DOF is so large it really makes the photos look as if it's been taken with a cheap point and shoot.There's really no distinguishing blur to separate the subject from the distracting background, especially at wider angles of say 50mm or less.
Olympus really should have made these "PRO" lenses start at at least f/2 if not f/1.8. Anything else is just duhhhhh...
I see the studio images are up for this camera - and they look terrible against the Canon 7D II, Nikon D7100, Pentax 5S II etc. No wonder DPR kept it back.
Somehow, I'm puzzled by the fact that we have studio images for the Canon 7D Mark II whilst there are still none for the sony A77 Mark II which has already been out in the market for months...... The Canon still has to appear on the shelves.Really strange, that.
Eddi D: I've used this site before a long time when searching for my 1st camera. Now I'm back for an upgrade. I currently own a Minolta 7D and Sony A100.I have the following lenses:Peleng 8mm fisheyeMinolta 50mm 1.7Sigma 15-30mm 3.5-4.5 DGTamron 28-75 2.8mm XR DISigma 70-200mm 2.8 EX DGSigma APO 2X EX DG TeleconverterI'm going to 'dump' my Minolta and give the Sony to my wife (she's small and it suits her perfectly). The new camera will be for me. I like shooting mostly sports. 70% outdoors (softball, bikingl, etc) as well as landscape (mountains, etc) and 30% indoors (kids volleyball and swimming). I am not currently doing it for money, but do plan on possibly starting.I have 2 questions:1. It seems the A77 and A77ii would fill my needs equally. But, is the A77ii worth the extra $300 (I've found both NIB and thinking long term)?2.Just to verify, my lenses will fit on both cameras, correct? I can't afford to change all my lenses. Thanks for any guidance you can give me.
You are missing out on the 85mm f/1.4 lens.Maybe wait for the Sigma ART version.I have the Minolta version and the images are just brilliant. Pity about the focusing which tends to hunt somewhat because of poor mechanical adjustment.
So far most other reviews give this camera a 9 out of 10 rating.What's up with DPR?I suspect there's the small issue of MONEY involved somewhere.
Miki Nemeth: With the 79 AF point Sony just missed again an opportunity to add touch-screen. The huge advantage of SLT vs DSLRs is that the PDAF module can be used in video/live view mode, too. Sony should have made the LCD touchable to compete against 70D or GH3/4. A77 is really the most versatile non-mirrorless APS-C camera and a touch screen would make it even outstanding. Sony is the most innovative company, but they cannot exploit their potential completely.
So what "new" feature will they have left to entice you with for the next iteration?Of course they knew we wanted the touch screen, they just want to have an ace up the sleeve to entice us to upgrade to the next version.This will be in combination with the new 65 cross-point only AF system coming next - after the Canon 7D II.All this in conjunction with the no-anti-alias filter and 28Mpx sensor.
Definitely better than my own camera ---- the A700 cannot get to 12800 at all, LOL!
DutchMate: The pic did not do the pretty girl justice..Then again frontfocus on the bud instaid of the girl.6400 iso at 1/400 shutter. Lower iso would been better.Looking at exif standard noise reduction set at 0. I would have put it at -2 or lowest possible when in dispare for jpegquality.
If the intent was to show the technical strengths of the camera then this photo is an epic FAIL!The camera should have been able to recognize the face and automatically focus on the eye, giving a clearly focused face.If the intention was to manually focus on the can, the result is STILL an epic FAIL because even the can is not sharp.Perhaps the photographer could explain why the nails are sharp???
Lassoni: There's really no way around it. This is hands down sony's best camera to date. They really should revisit this, maybe give it a sensor and/or mount of their A7s , aim to make it better @ low light than Canon 5d3 (much more cleaner than 5d3, almost 1DX spec), and get rid of the translucent mirror maybe. Keep the body as is, make it mirrorless with around 15-18 megapixel and give it FPS of 8-11.
Waiting for 18Mp, Mirrorless(or at least the ability to lift the mirror.., somehow...) with high speed AF and low light sensitivity AF down to -3EV[currently seems impossible...]Touch screen with focus select and AF by touch.
Alternatively to 18Mp - make 36mp with BSI, removing the anti-alias filter and allowing the semi-transparent mirror to be moved out of the way - or else simply have magnificent focus with the sensor itself....wihtout the mirror.....sigh!!!!
Is it just me or does the top of the baton seem to be sharper in focus than the face of the woman? Front focus, maybe?
Da hoss - still vary wary of da photoghrafar.....;-) !
LOL.. the horse is watching the photog like a hawk. Check it in all the pics!Must be the sound of the camera spooking it, what with the photog stepping in so close with the 20mm lens.
Seems like quite a lot of distortion in the lens....?????
I'm just getting this definite impression that Amazon/Dpreview is at loggerheads with Sony.They seem to be sending a message that Sony will be treated with scorn and contempt unless Sony ponies up some moolla somewhere.Why do I say this?Look at the treatment the Sony A77 mark II is getting even though it has been out on the market since August already.Then, this specific article is clearly sending the message - "Oh, sorry, we didn't see you there - your cubicle was so small and unnoticeable....!"
Great way to go, guys. Keep it up. Sony will soon cave in and spend some moolla as required.
The specs of camera and lens definitely makes me put this on the list to consider for the next acquisition. I've been Eyeing Sony's stuff and waiting for something rational to come out of their line-up - alas up till now, it's been a whole lot of ifs and buts. This Samsung revelation puts a whole new spin on things - the biggest probably being that Samsung products and service is excellent where I live, in contrast to Sony.If the image quality and AF performance works as hyped, Sony will be in deep trouble.I'm looking forward to the reviews on this system. My money is ready to spend.