UncleJJ: THANK YOU SONY! Awesome concept. It was about time somebody came out with this camera. It was what we've all been asking for... watch Nikon and Canon follow (just like they've done with their mirrorless lines). I'm really impressed with Sony's forward thinking following their NEX line (which I guess is now dead) This will be the leading product that will pave the way for a new type of camera. Let's face it: DSLRs are dead. I know all of you old-school photographers are in denial, just like you were about film till digital caught up. This is the face of the future. Well done Sony!
@ABM BarryThat's right get it all out of your system ABM Barry. Let go of all that verbal diarrhea and you'll feel much better!
Sean Davey Photography: OK, I'm a long time Canon user. I want to know if I buy one of the converters out there will I be able to use my Canon EF lens full frame on the new A7R or will there be fall off on the edges?... I'd really like to know a clear and concise answer from someone who actually knows from experience... Thank you.
@ ABM BarryThey aren't discontinuing NEX, just rebranding it. E-Mount APS-C is still alive. Why would they discontinue it and also introduce Zeiss Touit lenses for E-Mount recently. Please do some research before posting.
erotavlas: my opinion is that this camera (and others like it) don't advance digital camera technology forward very much, if at all. We have such amazing and advanced knowledge and manufacturing capabilities today that are beckoning for someone to put them to good use, only to be silenced. And not only silenced, but also insulted. We insulted technology and innovation by creating such a thing. As if Nikon hit a brick wall and lost all their imagination and creativity on how to use today's technology to develop something new and innovative. So they went backward instead of forward and pasted existing technology into an old design because they didn't know what else to do with it. To me this doesn't make sense.
@Ranford Stealth1st, the distinction between 'real' photographers and everyone else is silly. Photography is an art that anyone can enjoy. Is someone who sells their art more an artist than someone who pursues it as a hobby? I would hope not.
2nd, photographer’s need technology to do their work, it’s called a camera. Needs change and technology advances to accommodate them. People also push advancement by adopting features that improve workflow or end result. No one forces people to adopt anything, they decide to do it.
Lastly 'needing' a technology to accomplish ones goals does not mean one lacks education in any way. In fact quite the opposite, those that use those 'ultra high tech equipment’ are highly educated and skilled at their work. Take astrophotography, many amateur astronomers need those technological advances or else the ability to capture some of those amazing images would be out of their reach with older technology, due to cost, time, device limitations, etc.
my opinion is that this camera (and others like it) don't advance digital camera technology forward very much, if at all. We have such amazing and advanced knowledge and manufacturing capabilities today that are beckoning for someone to put them to good use, only to be silenced. And not only silenced, but also insulted. We insulted technology and innovation by creating such a thing. As if Nikon hit a brick wall and lost all their imagination and creativity on how to use today's technology to develop something new and innovative. So they went backward instead of forward and pasted existing technology into an old design because they didn't know what else to do with it. To me this doesn't make sense.
4k? why don't they skip 4k and just go directly to 6k
Bjrn SWE: It's not retro enough - shouldn't be no display on the back, and there should only be a maximum of 36 exposures until you have to reload.
they forgot the film advance lever, can't take the next shot without advancing the frame
mmcfine: Good luck to Sony. I stopped buying Sony products more then a decade ago. As a post below me mentioned, Sony changes directions way to often and I won't buy into a system that is constantly changing. I am happy with the Canon 6D full-frame. It's small and light and follows Canon's ergonomic and UI design.
So I guess you wont be buying into computers, smartphones, cars, televisions, music players, and all other technology either...cool!
HubertChen: Sony forgot photographer have noses.
This camera has an EVF. Why is it placed in the middle of the camera, where I need to twist my neck and squeeze my nose against the display? Not convenient and will always leave smear on the LCD. If you have a Mirror Box, your OVF has to be here. An EVF is connected with flex PCB. You can place the EVF where you want to. And I want the EVF in a conveient position. Not in an inconvenient one.
Look at cameras from Leica, Zeiss, Voigtlander and Fuji and the viewfinder is in the corner. Very convenient to hold to the eye. No Neck twisting. No nose squeezing. No Display cleaning.
I presume the design is made by the same team that created the NEX menu system? It is a shame to have so great technical prowess and then not utilize the best possible design.
These kind of usability flaw more influence buying decision for pro photographer then IQ. All cameras today have great IQ. But do they lend themselves to great shooting flow?
time to engineer a noseless photographer
reginalddwight: With Sony's latest FF MILCs, we may be seeing the beginning of the end of DSLRs as products for mass consumption.
Nikon and Canon should take heed.
DSLR is the pasting of digital sensor in film bodies. We should have appropriate body design for digital age. Time for Nikon and Canon to move into the future.
hello world: hehe, nice you have a body with ASP-C which could fit in your back pocket... sorry you need a lens of 20cm in lenght to get some decent shots, which will be around 1kg and $3000 :) I feel sorry for all you folks who bought into NEX assuming it would be better than other mirrorless systems because "It has an APS-C sensor in it!!!!" another 2 years before you can use the body without the option "shoot without less" enabled..
Your joking right? No wait, sounds more like your trolling.
Regarding length - Do you even know how long 20cm is? Kit lens is 6 cm long. The telephoto E mount lens (55-210) is still only around 10cm long. Even if I put a higher quality A mount lens on it (like the Zeiss 16-80 or 24-70) I'm only adding to the lens an extra 2.6cm for the adaptor - total length around 10-13cm.
Regarding weight - The weight of the NEX 5N + Kit lens is less than 500g, Nex 7 slightly above 500g. With the telephoto E mount lens (55-210) still way under 1kg.
Regarding price - I paid $599 for my Nex-5N kit. Replacing kit lens with higher quality lenses will be expensive regardless what system you choose.
Regarding image quality - Sorry to break it to you but APS-C sensors (like the Nex 5N 16MP) will beat any of the 4/3 mirrorless at higher ISO's
Oh and if you require spending $3000 to get 'decent' shots then I feel sorry for you. :)
erotavlas: How many lenses do you need anyway? Man I hate changing lenses and always have my 24mm Zeiss attached. But I'd definitely take a high quality zoom to replace the kit zoom. Other than that most of what you need is already out there, if not in E-mount, its in A mount via the LA-EA1 (or EA2) adaptors. (or other brands via other adaptors)
Really with adaptors there's a lot of choice out there already I don't know what people are complaining about.
Yes you could buy an A series body but you'd be stuck with a bulky camera body + large lens without the ability to reduce its size. At least with the NEX system you can remove the adaptor and switch to an E mount lens to make it far lighter and compact than a dslr. That to me is a huge plus.
And I agree, it kind of sucks we have to wait so long for lens offerings in E mount.
How many lenses do you need anyway? Man I hate changing lenses and always have my 24mm Zeiss attached. But I'd definitely take a high quality zoom to replace the kit zoom. Other than that most of what you need is already out there, if not in E-mount, its in A mount via the LA-EA1 (or EA2) adaptors. (or other brands via other adaptors)
rgnewell: I own a Panasonic LX3 and was amazed when Sony introduced the NEX with an APS size imager in a body about the same size as my LX3. I had hoped that Sony would have a lens about the same physical size as the 24-60 mm f2 on my LX3, but evidently not. Maybe Sony will surprise me. Until then, I sit on the sidelines.
@ Francis Carver
Um no. Except for the telephoto, the E-mount lenses are rather light and far from bulky. When I picked up the Zeiss for the first time i was amazed at how light it is.
shaocaholica: Err, putting the camera on a 'mat' is not 'contactless'
Maybe they used the term contacless to dumb it down for the masses. I know lots of people would have no clue what induction is anyway.
charging by induction requires no contacts. You could essentially hover the device over the mat in close proximity and it would still charge. But due to gravity the device has no choice but to rest on the mat :) It is contactless in the sense that the parts that deliver the charge do not need to touch each other physically.