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The GR looks pretty nice, very interesting camera.
davidodd: 337 comments and counting..... What's that about 'no such thing as bad publicity"?
Love mine. Love the way it feels, and functions. Great pictures. Good range of lens. Just about light enough to carry up a big hill without regretting it. Love the GPS and Wifi. Sounds mad but why not try one first???? Oh yes, because all the camera shops have closed....
"...the lenses seem really expensive and for what? Inherently less picture quality!".
That is simply wrong. m43 have some of the finest lenses around, all systems considered.
Dr Aref: I guess it is unfare to give 6D Silver award with 83% score while 5DIII got a gold with 82% score. Though both of them are full framers, but they belong to different price and user class. For enthusiasts GPS and WiFi is are quite attractive features, but paying extra for them may be heavy on their pockets. Very fast but cheaper SD cardsnowadays should be and advantage for an enthusiast's camera. On camera distortion correction is another reason for which I plan to swap my 5DII with 6D.
Probably because these criteria are extremely counter-intuitive
marike6: DPR scored RAW IQ extremely high for the 6D, but with even a quick glance at the RAW test scene, you can see that colors are not as rich as the other FF cameras. I think DPR missed this aspect in their scoring of the 6D's RAW IQ (but perhaps it's mentioned somewhere in the review).
DxOMark gave a lower color depth score to the 6D relative to other FF cameras so other testers have noted the way it renders color.
One of the reasons why the 5D3, D600 or D800 high ISO images look so excellent is they don't lose saturation. Clearly weak color/contrast can be fixed in post, but it's an extra step.
A slight bump to saturation in LR takes a few seconds, and you can apply it to as many images as you like at the same time. Or you can define your own import settings and apply it automatically. It's not like you have to go one image at a time.
Also, I don't get at all your OOC concept since you say you never shoot JPEG. OOC usually refers to jpegs with no PP applied, not to RAW files. As far as I'm concerned, no RAW file looks good enough without a minimum amount of PP, irrespective of the camera.
rusticus: thank god - I've kept my Pentax k-5
So, same overall score in lab tests. Fine.
In my experience, the 6D is far cleaner and more detailed starting at ISO 3200, and AF accuracy is miles better. I stand by what I said, having actually shot both cameras.
JustDavid: As you bang about the 'classleading autofocus sensitivity' so much it may be worth pointing that Pentax K-5II and K-5IIs have the same -3EV and are worth half the price. Just to be fair :)
The K5 is an APS-C camera, so not in the same class, I suppose
rusticus: thank god - I've kept my Pentax k-5
I have both and the 6D cleans the floor with the K5 both in AF accuracy and high ISO. And that's even considering the K5 is a high ISO beast and a great all-round camera. But there's just no contest.
dmurphey: I've been using the 6D for 2 months - it's a love / hate relationship. The WI-FI feature is awesome. Been using EOS Remote app on my iPad Mini, and my clients love being able to view shots as we go, untethered.
Hate the AF. The center locks tight, but the other 10 points are pretty much useless for anything other than landscape photography.
Not my experience at all regarding the AF points. They work quite well for meI haven't shot moving targets, mind.
andy le anh: The first thing I read on reviews is the Conclusion... such as Pros - Cons... and Good for or Not so good for...
Well, the only one damn thing "Not so good for" to put on the K-30 is: Video shooters.
In other words, the K-30 is good for every occasions, except shooting (serious) videos. Do we buy DSLR cameras for shooting videos?
You said it, "some" do. Most don't, though.
topstuff: I think this is harsh on Pentax. They've worked hard on a well priced budget DSLR that even by DPR's own admission is pretty hard to fault for stills shooters.
It deserves Gold on this basis alone.
Yes, from reading the review and the very short list of rather minor cons (no dedicated video button? please), it's hard to understand the Silver award
Wow, those high ISO pictures look really impressive.
JDT0505: That's a lot of dough for a point and shoot. Personally, I'd go for an X100. Even though it's got a smaller sensor simply because the wider feature set. Seriously, $2800 and it's got a hot-shoe mounted viewfinder?
The pixel pitch on the two cameras are about the same as is the focal length. The Fuji can be got for less than $1000 these days. The only thing it's got going for it is the Zeiss "named" lens. Sorry Sony. Fail.
This is NOT a point and shoot by any stretch of imagination.
I'm sure others have picked on this but "the camera can now enter playback to check focus and composition within about 2 seconds".
TWO seconds? Seriously?
AbrasiveReducer: The image quality is noticably better than similar sized cameras (except for clipped highlights which are bad with all small cameras except the X10) and I liked the ring and Sony's interface. But I'll wait for the new Fujis and whatever Canon has at Photokina.
In the end, I returned the RX100 but not because of the image quality. I'm not hard on cameras but that plastic lens barrel just seemed too fragile. The plastic baseplate was a little surprising at this price, too.
Seeing the RX100's very good picture quality led me to the G1X, which was better but too clunky and slower than a bellows camera. But Photokina is just around the corner. If there's nothing nicer, I might just get another RX100.
Not at all
Mike Oo: Stephen Shore is great but only when Stephen Shore does "Stephen Shore" not when someone else does "Stephen Shore." Ditto William Eggleston. Try something new people, there's way too many people copying this style and it needs to be put to death.
That doesn't mean there aren't any general principles that can be taken from Shore's photography.
Very interesting and informative article, I enjoyed reading it
Griffo59: Boring. Massively-underfeatured.
Is this really the best Canon can do after years of pondering on how to enter the mirrorless market?
Canon are now a slow lumbering giant. They have no agility. No ability to react quickly to changes in their market.
Canon currently have no clear class-leading camera in any market sector.
Unless they wake up and trim down and become agile again they are sunk.
Nobody got fired for buying IBM - remember that? Canon are becoming the IBM of the camera/photocopier sector.
And you should probably chill and stop calling people names
Wow, a lot of negativity in the comments here. Rough summer so far guys?
Granted, it could be better, but it looks pretty interesting to me. Lens roadmap is my main concern, but that 22 f2 pancake should be fun to shoot with.
Looks pretty good to me. Coupled to that 22 mm f2 pancake should be interesting, provided it delivers above average IQ.
Everything looks great on paper, except for the sensor size. This has put a dampener on it for me, at least until we get to see what noise looks like at high ISO.
If it's equivalent to the competition (mainly RX-100 and EX2F), then my LX3 will have found its successor!