IEBA1: I agree with all the posts that wonder about the point of this article. Given how few "opinion" pieces are on DPreview, why the XC10 gets a positive opinion piece makes the whole web site suspect.
I laughed out loud at: "The XC10 represents an important step on the path to convergence between the still and video imaging worlds, though it’s important to recognize that it’s an early step."
Wha? Can you even find a camera any more that doesn't do both?
Years ago, I hacked a GH2 for fantastic video, stills, and augmented it to use cine servo zoom lenses for capabilities still lenses simply cannot provide. Last year I upgraded to a GH4 and haven't looked back. It is a stellar tool. You can see gobs of my technical videos here:
The only unique feature is the rotatable grip. Something I had on my first HD camcorder, the JVC GR-HD1. Yes, I'm an early adopter. Thats why it bugs me when I see article like this that are _years_ behind the curve.
The market muscle to sell news agencies a high priced but under-featured camera that can't particularly match the GH4 in any discipline?
Fredy Ross: No stylus?
certainly not a pressure sensitive one to do anything creative with.
I'm sure some of the regular third party ones will work though.
biggercountry: Cons I don't think are really worth mentioning as cons:
• File export to computer can be cumbersome - Not really the intended purpose of this camera. But I personally don't find automatic uploads to iCloud via Photo Stream and back to iPhoto on my computer cumbersome. Quite the opposite.
• No dedicated shutter button - The volume up button, while not "dedicated" in the strictest sense of the word, may as well be, since in the camera app it will do nothing else. Some apps don't support this functionality, but I do all my photo taking from the camera app and post process later in other apps.
• Low-resolution front camera - Again, the intended purpose of this camera doesn't require significant resolution.
• No 4K video - This is not currently deal breaker to most consumers, with 4K TV and display penetration being quite low still. However, in the future it obviously will be. I still consider this a "fringe benefit" feature to the average smartphone consumer.
"Intended purpose" is determined by the user.Given the popularity of the derided 'selfies', some manufacturers started installing high resolution cameras front and back.
So yeah, for some people, that's going to be a contra.
Peiasdf: Amazing performance especially in low light. I think 8MP might be the break even point for daytime resolutions and low-light performance. Some phones have high resolution image in daylight but the low-light performance are laughable because of the super tiny cells.
Some phones combine multiple cells into one for better low light performance automatically, others, you just have to manually select a lower resolution when it gets dark.
I quit Apple around iPhone 3, as repeated jail breaking after every update was getting to be too much effort.
So I had not seen any iPhone pictures until this dpreview email arrived.
All I can think of is: They couldn't get the antenna to work without making it this ugly?
Maybe they should try Bamboo. I'm no Moto fan and I don't have one, but their designs have gone from ugly to great.
I guess that's just how stuff changes, like the shoreline and the sea.
BeeJee: @mosc and Richard Butler:Your mentioned "light gathering advantage of the LX100 e.g. against a Canon 5D with 24-105 f4 L" is negledgible: The full-frame equivalent aperture of the LX100 is f3.74, which is a hardly noticable advantage against f4. And at longer focal lengths, it quickly gets much worse.
hah, calling the body a throw-in is about right ;-)
Sure is a nice freeby in my book ^^
Boss of Sony: WHY IS THIS CAMERA BIG NEWS? RICOH RELEASED A FULLY POCKETABLE CAMERA WITH AN !!!APS-C!!!! SIZED SENSOR 2 YEARS AGO (RICOH GR). THE ONLY THING THIS PANASONIC HAS OVER THE GR IS THE 4K VIDEO AND AN EVF. WHO CARES? NOBODY HAS 4K TVs. PLUS IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT FROM A NORMAL VIEWING DISTANCE, THERE IS NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4K TV AND 1080P TV, so anybody who buys a 4k TV is mad. Most photographers are not interested in taking 4k video anyway, unless they want to make documentaries, in which case, who cares whether you have a pocketable camera or not.
I heard that Visually impaired people really can't tell the difference.
Personally though, I could swear everything looked quite a lot sharper when I bought a 4K TV for my computer, even from half way across the room.
I do like it, but going by the words of this review, it should compared to Panasonic's GH3. If you add that to the comparison feature at the end of the review, you'll find a rather interesting graph!
Sadly,There are smart phones and cheap-o cameras that already record 4k video. Yet the RX10 can't even do 120 frames/s at 1080p.
With all the other qualities of this cam, why stop quite that short on video capability?
I do like it, but:
There are smart phones and cheap-o cameras that already record 4k video.This thing can't even do 120 frames/s at 1080p.
metal buckles and rivets have no place on camera straps, they could easily end up scratching up your camera sooner or later.
Otherwise, I like the retro design with leather and canvas.
But there's also another way this strap is useless to me: I can't slide the camera around on the strap when I want to take a quick shot.
what good does the slim camera do in my pocket if it has a soda can style lens that won't retract?
There are some high quality cameras with built-in, bright, retracting zooms.
For having a DSLR sized sensor in a Sony Nex camera I can understand the design compromise. For a 1" sensor, what's the point?
People seem to have collectively forgotten how to run a business without perpetual growth. Perpetual growth is the wrong goal to chase on a finite planet.
magneto shot: panasonic, or (X) manufacturer.
Lets just release a really retro camera with 2 simple mode :
A)1. auto (and just set to auto scene dont even ask)or2. full physical solid dials for : shutter, iso and Aperture.
B)Instead of SD cards. Provide a side hollow compartment (where films are usually stored) and allow plugin of USB thumb/pen drive.
C)2 connectors :-1 ) connect to android2) connect to iphone
Forget the filters. forget the wifi. Forget whatever that is not needed.
Then just stop producing cameras for 2 years.
don't presume everybody only hooks up their camera to their phones, just because you do.
I *never* do that... But I do use wifi to connect to my laptop though, to have a big display of what I'm shooting, and to move pictures without having to plug around with the SD card.
chj: What is the Auto ISO range on the GX7?
opps wrong reply button
is it in the gearshop yet?
When you are a backpacker, you're always looking for smaller and lighter, without compromising sensor size too much.
This might just replace my Nex 5 for traveling, with the Nex remaining mounted on a long metal arm at my house.
We can expect more abortive disasters from Microsoft, so much is sure.
First they had their trojan horse Elop destroy Nokia, with moves too detrimental to be accidental. Now they buy Nokia on the cheap, thinking they will "recast Microsoft into a devices and services company"
They have their heads way too far up their behinds to make that happen.
So far, as a devices company, they scored the worst iFixit score ever for their tablets, they neutered Windows RT, by pulling the already finished windows software support at the behest of Intel, who didn't want to have to compete with ARM, so they can keep their prices sky high.
Next up, remember Zune? remember when Microcruft turned off their DRM servers, so all customers who had purchased their digital music lost all of the music they had payed for, with no compensation at all.
Products purely designed for corporate greed, not customer need. Tollbooth hell and complete lock down, no customization.
If I wanted that, I'd buy Crapple.
Can anybody still afford actual film? Prices must be through the roof by now...
I wonder how much Microcruft is paying these companies to crank out new Windphones to rot on store shelves...
Lets see if Nikon actually gets there before the year 2100...
The DSLR market was evolving at a glacial pace, sort of like building fine violins during the renaissance. And Nikon hasn't been able to pick speed in any other markets.
If they want to keep up with Samsung in consumer goods of any kind, they'll have to get up real early in the morning...