MarshallG: As soon as you jump from smartphone to any digital camera, you instantly lose all of the connectivity and ease of use of the smartphone. DxO is trying to solve this, albeit at a price that's going to be difficult to swallow.
Really? All it takes is me to look at the picture I like in my camera, bump my phone on its side (NFC) and boom..its on its way up...not so hard but if one rather upload crappy phone pictures then there will always be an excuse ;)
Lanidrac: If cam makers got really serious and put in dslr sized sensors, raw and other dslr options into these cameras then who then needs a DSLR? Some are at 7 fps now. That's almost my 7D! 24 to 2000 mm's without swapping glass? Amazing stuff and it's only going to get better.
So what? That is funny...In other words you have NO idea what I just explained..so go read and learn THEN you will get that is not so easy as you think..otherwise we would have it already. You are not THAT smart that they couldnt figure out it would be great to have bigger sensors without you pointing it out.... ;)
That is not the point. You are only getting a 1200 or 2000mm (35mm equivalent range) because of the tiny sensors having a huge crop factor of around 5.62 Not saying that eventually technology will change this completely but for the time being this is not going to happen. Its like when you have a 100mm Lens on a Full Frame camera...you get 100mm. But that same lens on a smaller APS-C sensor with crop factor 1.5 then becomes a 200mm in equivalent range.
How do you expect this to happen? How do you think they can just put a much larger sensor and give you a 2000mm reach in that package?
Gs05: I agree with one of the comments that cameras these days are all amazing in terms of quality, performance that we are just splitting hairs!
I think the review was too focused on image quality comparison at crazy ISO ranges and the bulk of the camera, which to anyone who does a blind test realizes the a7ii is much smaller and lighter than any other Full Frame camera.
What the review looked over entirely (or didnt stress enough) was the huge amount of compatiability this camera has with legacy lenses. Add in IBIS and suddenly all those MF lenses has OSS! Also, it never mentions any of the app driven aspects, where you can do some neat post processing, upload to social media automatically and best yet, use your phone as a viewfinder when trying to take shots of groups or even when putting the camera on crazy ledges in nature.
On the flip side, the bad battery life was never mentioned? It sux! did they actually use the camera? I have nikon and this...nikon collects dust!
Well, what did you expect from DPReview doing a Sony product? It has been like this forever so I dont even bother to read anything but the summary to see if they have changed. Then I go back and enjoy this BEAST of a Camera shooting with FD lenses at insanely low shutter speeds. :)
Robgo2: Since upgrading from DxO 9 Elite to DxO 10 Elite costs only $69, I felt that I didn't have much to lose and went for it. Right off the bat, I can see that tonal adjustments are improved with white and black points being more stable, i.e. they are less likely to shift with other tone adjustments. Highlight recovery seems better as well. Overall, I like the new version and think that it should serve most users well.
However, in head to head tests with Photo Ninja, PN is the clear winner, and that even includes Noise Ninja vs. Prime NR in super high ISO shots. Prime is hugely overrated (and overhyped), IMO. It may remove noise, but it does so at the cost of smearing detail and producing blotchiness. Neither program offers local adjustments. For that I use Perfect Photo Suite and get better results than are possible with raw convertors such as LR and C1. Sure, it means working on a converted file, but that's hardly a tragedy.
You inflamed? Not really...just saw the notification and decided to make you feel important by posting again since I feel this is as good as it gets for you.You are welcome!
Oh Robgo2 you are funny indeed. Whatever mate..go on loving your Ninja and putting down anything that comes up about DXO, its your time, waste it as you wish. ;)
If that is what you call positive then I wouldnt like to see a negative review from you. So you are the volunteer PR for Photo Ninja..thats cool. Ninja has been around for a while now so I dont think they need so much help which in turn ends up looking greatly suspicious. I think all these products are well known to anyone into photographer in any case. I dont need to chill out, I am not the one posting on most of the Ninja threads raving about it like it was the best of the best. Nor I am the one looking for DXO threads to take a stab at it cleverly disguised under some fake positive comments. You have been called out before and I thought it was just people being rude but now I see you really deserved to be called out about it. So yeah, go on, keep searching for DXO and Ninja threads and continue with your campaign, I think everyone knows about you by now so you wont accomplish much.Regards
I actually said that on my very first post and PN in contrast either does not clean nearly as well or replaces detail with fake film like noise which you seem to like a lot but to me is just a horrible trade off. Honestly I have never seen someone so defensive about a product. Any time PN comes up in the Retouching forum your name will be the first to come up to defend it like it was your own child. Do a search yourself and you will see I speak truth. In fact when I saw this post I knew for sure it was the same person from the Retouching forum and I confirmed it right away.
Chill out man...for you it might be the Holy grail but others will surely disagree, including myself. If it works great for you then awesome but your campaign of putting down DXO and glorify Ninja is getting old and boring..may want to give it a rest.Regards
Vasiliy Ivanov: Still no Fuji, this is not acceptable, bad soft.
Blame Fuji...there is a reason that only THEY are the problem while all others are fine
Indeed it is based on one's skill in using it..on that I agree. And in fact I will take Topaz or Nik over PN for noise removal as well but I guess we will agree to disagree.regards
We have had chats about this before in the Retouching forum as you are a big fan of Ninja but I have to disagree with you man.While is true that Prime can create blotchiness depending on the image, you are way off about Ninja Noise reduction vs Prime. Is not even on the same planet when it comes to high ISO. Ninja is ok in noise reduction but cant touch Prime plus overall, I can still get better detail with DXO than with Ninja as well. The only time I use Ninja is if I want to rescue some blown highlights using their color recovery option which can be pretty cool in some cases. But other than that, its DXO for me so I guess as they say YMMVRegards
Aroart: They should stick to tvs . There phones suck to. but i love my note 12.5 tablet although it crashes more than my 4yr old iPad.
rramjit: I am tired of people commenting that pixel count does not mean better image. This is an old and outdated logic.We are in different times...where 20MP is the old 12MP....all you have to do is look the ratings on image quality for Nikon slew of 20+MP cameras. The D800 at 36MP is oustanding and is rated BEST of Dslrs in terms of image quality overall...DXO Mark scores. what does this tell you? Sensors today are allowing excellent images at high pixel density so stop arguing with outdated rules. Judge on image quality as you see it!The Iphone 4S photos are better on color accuracy but that is the end of it. Other than the HTC's photos being too warm for my taste, it appears to be superior for sharpness, noise, light sensitivity.With that said, I am still amazed at the IPhone 4S photos...that is..until I got my Samsung Note II.:)
Obviously you are clueless about photography but good try....
You bought the camera knowing what it had...the option...see that word OPTION to add more features after you but it is awesome but nobody forces you to do so...people always have something dumb to complain about :/