I think its time to start building a second system. With Nikon and Canon, you don't know what will happen, because hey are like sleeping giants while smaller manufacturers are like hard working ants coming out with products after products.
what an ugly looking camera. This camera looks like point-n-shoot. At least improve some aesthetics.
jdrpc: Waterproof to 15m is NOT an Underwater Camera! And much less the successor of the Nikonos V or RS that could go to 75m!!!!It's like the watches that say "Waterproof to 30m" but can barely go under 10!If the camera says 15m, it can barely go to -5m, because of dynamic pressure....Pity! would be nice to have a real Digital UW camera
When a company rates a product at 15 meter, you can sink twice deeper before the thing breaks. Everything in technology can be pushed further than what its rated at.
schaki: The Nikonos wont be properly reborn until the camera uses full frame sensor.This seems like the development of the Nikon 1 system which almost was doomed to fail before it reached the shelves in the stores the first time. Craptax Q is an other joke amongst cameras with interchangeable lenses.The 1" sensor size however would make sense to used more in usual compacts and I certainly would like to see compacts like Cann S110 and Coolpix P7700 use this sensor size it it would be possible.
The full frame sensor will come when the Nikon DSLR's start becoming mirrorless.
Wye Photography: One thing I dislike about Americans is their overtly nationalistic and patriotic attitudes. You know, hand on heart and that "One nation under God" lark. And what do they do, buy phones from a Korean company instead of an American company. Makes me laugh.
Perhaps Americans aren't as nationalistic and patriotic as the media makes us Brits believe.
no, Americans are not nationalistic, they are more laid back. For example they don't throw TV's out of their windows when their team loses (in any sport) on the international level.
Besides, how can they be nationalistic when Americans are ALL migrants. But when it comes to tyranny that they escaped from, they do get pretty patriotic about their freedom.
HappyVan: Sounds like more of the mirrorless nonsense.
At one point, mirrorless was the next big thing. Heavily promoted by cultists and websites. The DSLR was a dinosaur, they say. Today, mirrorless is in retreat even in Japan. Why is that?
Any camera is a tool. All it means is that Barney is doing snapshots at the moment for social sharing. Will he ever return to photography as an art? Will he ever need to zoom?
Although sarcastic, but you have a point.
Vadimka: Yes, DSLR is on a decline... its quiet simple... its a fact... it will take some time, but in a matter of 3-5 years we will have most of them gone. Those that remain will be only High-End machines, equivalents of todays' Nikon D4 etc.
I don't really know, why is it so difficult for people to understand. SLRs were created to solve the problems that View Camera, Rangefinders and TLRs had.Today mirrorless systems solve all of those without Mirrors and Prism, annoying mirror slap and shake.
Is there any DSLRs today that better some Mirrorless cameras? You bet, but don't forget that SLRs has been around for 70 years and Mirrorless is only 5 years old. As we will get better sensors that can absorb the light more keen to an emulsion and as we get better view EVFs we will see more and more pro Mirrorless.
Canon and Nikon are dragging their feet and thats not surprising, they will try to milk that DSLR cow for as long as they can. Its hard to go from top to almost bottom of the order.
To be a DSLR killer, A mirrorless has to come with a DSLR equivalent mount. That means, Nikon would need to release a mirrorless camera with full frame sensor and F mount, otherwise it will take some time for mirrorless systems to mature where they can comfortably provide a gallery of lenses and accessories. A mirrorless camera is simply not equipped for studio and for most professional work.
Do you shoot professionally? I do not bring a mirrorless to any of my client work, and they certainly don't expect me to. But I agree, mirrorless is my go to camera when I'm shooting around for pleasures sake.
How does DR feel in RAW, anybody know?
Peiasdf: The color on the car is off vs. bayer picture. I guess phone users don't really care for color accuracy.
I don't think the bayer color is correct either.
Well, what can I say. I guess it works for web and newspapers but I doubt that this will work very well on quality print media.
I've seen some nifty shots done with cellphones before, but those shots are all about the right moment and a lot o luck. With a dslr on an assignment u need to be prepared with all the proper lighting equipment to shape and sculpt the image because u do t have the time to wait for the lucky lighting conditions. So no, for most professional photography applications u need pro caliber equipment.
Lucafeb: Canon and Nikon hope that all their customers using they DSLR will stick with them forever. These 2 manufacturers failed to see that mirroless camera are a valid alternative for some applications also for pro users.Canon and Nikom are keeping alive this mamoth format just for their economic interests.
I hope Sony and Fuji in the future will eat all their market.....I can't wait when the mirroless will have full frame, when it will happen also the video entusiast will migrate to mirror less cameras.
Canon and Nikon losers like Kodak..
The problem with all mirrorless is that they are not system oriented. You cannot for example, build a photographic business around a mirrorless camera because there are no accessories or lighting equipment available that would work with it. When someone gets serious about photography he starts thinking about the whole package that will enable him to grow in his business. DSLR line is the only line that provides that with lenses, lighting equipment, and other host of little tihngs.
Mirrorless is still a enthusiastic camera.
montygm: Having been a Canon user for many years now I am also rather dissapointed with this new addition to the Canon line. They are trying to target the entry level consumer market to lure them to full frame and lens sales as "cameralabtester" mentioned but are going about it in a very stupid way. The fact that they have ommited a pop up flash is a huge mistake for one thing. Be it small as it is, it does come in very handy for fill in light, many people don't want to drag a bulky Speedlight around with them everywhere. Having worked in camera sales for over 7 years now I know of a great deal of customers ( some pros as well ) who often lammented on this missing on the 5D's. Why doesn't Canon listen to what customers want!!!! The fact that Nikon have also incorporated the ability to use DX` lenses as well is brilliant marketing on their part. Why would you want to buy this camera when the Nikon D600 has higher specs and lets the buyer be able to use DX and FX lenses? And the flash sync!Geez
true, omitting flash is a huge mistake. The pro's may tell you that "I never ever ever..." but this camera is not aimed at them. If this camera comes with 11point AF, than it is clearly aimed at amateur market.
The pro crowd needs to realize as well, that those pro's who do have built in flash on models such as D700 use it to trigger remotely, or with diffusers. And secondly built in flash does not take anything away from the camera. It doesn't make your camera worse, or more bulky, or less professional, or what ever else. In fact when it is closed, it is so invsible, that nobody would notice you have a pop up flash (assuming you're afraid that if someone sees popup flash you will look less professional).
My point, there is no drawbacks to having a popup flash, only benefits.
Steve Ives: No, no no - built in GPS and get yourself an external flash if you need one, instead of a little toy flash who's only purpose is to tick a box on the marketing sheet.
If this is an entry level FF, I believe built in flash is an important feature. Listen, it is aquared that Canon found wifi and GPS more important than built in flash. I use built in flash all the time remotely. I think you've been taking built in flash for granted.
basically J2 is a price reduced J1. I didn't know that reducing a price on an existing product means the launch of a new product line. I guess in the information overload age anything sells.
I think this book is complimentary to his other books. I like McNally's practical approach to lighting.
wb2trf: Winners and losers:
Biggest winner: Sony. Endorsement by Canon of APS-C size in mirrorless, but generally a somewhat weak competitor to Nex5N and Nex 7 with a similar but less appealing look.Biggest loser: Nikon: Nikon 1 so much weaker with their small sensor.
In the middle:Canon: short term not much impact because clearly it is a come from behind effort, longer term with new models it can be a fine strong competitor if Canon wants it to be.Micro 4/3: short term not much impact, longer term, APS-C may be cemented as the better mirrorless size. Particularly as the fixed lens large sensor cameras like the RX100 and the G1X compete more strongly, micro4/3 may be in a hard to defend position.
I think Nikon 1 is a huge win. Nikon 1 already produces better images than any P&S camera, it just falls short of a DSLR in IQ. Those looking to upgrade from P&S, Nikon 1 is the way to go. It is light and small, and it's AF runs circles around all the other mirorrless cameras. If the italian preview is true that Canon's first mirrorless has very slow AF, than it is a huge disappointment. Another huge dissapointment is no popup flash. Upgraders will certainly hate this one. Third dissapointment is the price. I thought Nikon 1 price was too steep, now I think not.
Don't know what to think about this announcement. From the outset the camera does not look as sexy as Nikon 1. Plus the price point is a little steep. I thought Nikon J1 was expensive, not anymore. One thing to look forward too I guess would be its high ISO capabilities. If the AF is slow as someone has said it is, this is a bigger bummer for this camera. I love my Nikon 1 because of the AF speed, and that it has a built in flash, which is extremely useful when taking this camera on outing. The image IQ of Nikon 1 is better than any P&S to date, but a little worse than DSLRs'. For most situations Nikon 1 is a winner. If anyone is interested in better IQ, then I think this Canon model would be a be a perfect upgrade; better high ISO and better IQ across the board because of its bigger sensor.
peevee1: That is fun, the mistake of giving D800 and 5D3 the same 82% was corrected. But - by giving D800E higher "Value" rating?
If D800 was at $4K, no doubt it would have received better rating from DPR. DPR does look at the price, the higher the price the higher the score it seems.
Holy Smokes!Capture One default conversion extracts more detail and sharpness than any other converter. Look at the detail on the siding, it is impressive. I thought NX would be the converter of choice, but clearly not.