danijel973: The removable batteries are generally preferrable but generally speaking, I would be satisfied knowing that a battery *can* be replaced at a dealership or a service center. It's not such a big deal if it *can* be replaced at all. But if it can't, then it's a big no-no.
Couldn't agree more! A fixed built-in battery to me is a deal-breaker. If I cannot replace the battery myself I don't take the phone, period!
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johnparas11zenfoliodotcom: with its size.. I might as well just buy a Nikon D5200.. :-) although it will be reversed..better still and so-so video ? ;-)
I'd seriously consider this type of camera system as a DSLR replacement, but I'd have to evaluate the EVF claim in the review summary myself first. If it indeed has a distinct color cast & poor optics, that will be my deal breaker! On the same budget I'll then buy the Nikon D7100.
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Posted on Apr 16, 2013 at 05:30:51 UTC
I've been living with a Note I as my primary communication device for 18 months now. Functionally it's a great device, but size-wise it is marginal. Even 3mm wider would be the deal-breaker for me because then it won't fit into a denim or shirt pocket any longer, which is my criteria for defining the "phablet" concept. I presume I'll consider these new devices to be small tablets!
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Posted on Apr 12, 2013 at 06:29:49 UTC
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cgarrard: $1,100 for the Nikon A? I was liking a lot about the specs till I read that part.... um whoa. Guess Nikon is going for those who like the RX1 but not the price, but still... The Ricoh GRD IV is 28mm fixed, with really good image quality for less than half that price.
The P330 looks appealing, nice zoom range, bright aperture, decent sized sensor (I'm a fan of the 1 1/7" sized sensors), and much better price as well I'm sure.
Add to that the view finder, adapter ring & hood, and you can almost buy two d7000 bodies! I suppose this flood of new devices packaged in every conceivable format & size help sell more sensors, which in turn aid in lowering productions costs. I hope they sell many, but I won't be one of the buyers!
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Posted on Mar 5, 2013 at 05:25:01 UTC
Digitall: I had an HTC and not want any more. HTC is poor in after sales service and troubleshooting software. My experience.
Can't agree with you more! I'm still stuck with an HTC Flyer 3G tablet on a 2-year contract, and I promised myself never another HTC product again after my contract expires!
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Posted on Feb 21, 2013 at 06:06:39 UTC
It may be expensive but 3G connectivity should expose it to the contract data cellular market, and thus make it way more affordable to a larger group of potential buyers!
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Posted on Nov 6, 2012 at 11:39:36 UTC
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I don't see the lens and sensor size being the main issue in trying to get the cost down. The Sony RX100 sells for $180 more than the Canon Rebel T3 with an 18-55mm kit lens! The IQ-gap may be filled by a 1" sensor, but the price "consternation" still remains! I think the biggest challenge lies rather in optimizing the overall design to a more competitive price. I would typically want my DSLR to last 6 years, but I'd be happy if I can get 3 out of a P&S.
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Posted on Oct 17, 2012 at 04:58:51 UTC
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NomadMark: I get a kick out of most who complain about the size as well, to be honest. While a nice flat pancake might be nice, even with the Kit 18-55mm or Zeiss 24mm, the camera is still so light. I own a 5Dmk2 and 7D along side a slew of lenses, and I love them, but they are a task to carry around ALL THE TIME. I bought a Nex7 a few months ago, and for real, I ALWAYS have it. I never miss an opportunity. I have a super small fossil "man purse" (lol) that I've grown used to carrying. It always has the body and 3 lenses in it; The Sigma 19, 30, and Zeiss Planar 50mm f2. Size wise, this equates to the size of my 5D body, alone, with no lenses...maybe less. Or, I can strole out of the house with the camera and one lens around my neck for the whole day and never notice it's there and there is no issue with handelling. Even with the kit lens, or the Zeiss 50mm I own, the camera is light enough to rest on one left hand finger while held in the right. There is zero issue with balance for me.
The 5D is larger than the Rebel series? I know the 7D is huge!
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Posted on Sep 4, 2012 at 04:51:51 UTC
Cheezr: Kudos to Nikon for being first with the next gen compact. Who woulda thunk it?
As far as I'm aware, the SCH-W880 was only sold in Korea. The Polaroid SC1630 I've only seen in write-ups dating back to Feb. 2012. Neither of these products can be found on B&H's website. In my opinion thus Nikon is the first company to actually deliver, as you can pre-order your S800c as we speak!
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Posted on Aug 23, 2012 at 07:31:00 UTC
I do not agree with Kate Bevan. In my opinion, photography is far more than just a picture telling a story. It can also be required to convey emotion and illustrate artistic expression. Software like Instagram plays an important part in fulfilling this role, and really opens the creative realms much further than the mere technical requirements of framing a shot and getting the lighting correct. When your camera hardware has limited optical capability as is the case with cell phone cameras, I found by using software like Instagram/Vignette/LittleCamera/etc these shortcomings can quite often be creatively exploited. People who think photography is nothing more than producing a "pin sharp" image with expensive equipment may agree with Kate, but I prefer to be more open minded.
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Posted on Jul 20, 2012 at 05:19:43 UTC
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The problem in today's business world, is that senior management teams tend to be composed of legionaries working on contract for the highest buck! Their passion is more focused on the currency they're earning than on the product generating that currency! Without passion for the product, it's nothing more than gambling with experience, which isn't always enough!
The management team of Kodak took the company out of the high-end market by discontinuing their premium cameras! It's like a famous restaurant saying "Although we established our name with french cuisine, in future we should focus on burgers & fries". What the big Kodak probably did not realize, was that they dropped into the street-corner mass-market segment where the players are quick and light on their feet.
It will be sad to see them disappear! IMO licensing a good name is just another "epic fail" decision. They need a "Steve Jobs" turnaround plan rather!
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Posted on Feb 10, 2012 at 07:30:34 UTC
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I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but I feel I must mention that in South Africa wedding photographers are fortunate (or exceptionally talented) if they're able to get a couple to pay even $1500.00! Adding further insult to injury, the cost of photographic equipment is generally between 20% & 40% higher here than in the USA or Canada.
I must also say that $15 000.00 weddings are quite rare here, except for the relatively wealthy. The wedding budgets I often observe, are in the region of about $7000 to $8000!
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Posted on Jan 27, 2012 at 08:28:12 UTC
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Altruisto: Shame on Dpreview. I have always believed their judgements, but it happens that I had the opportunity lately to try a big number of mirrorless cameras and enthusiast compacts, and by far Nikon 1 system was the most satisfying. So I'm very upset for all those who would be fooled by this journalist masturbation. "oh! po po po, it's a camera for beginners, so I don't care about all the unique advances made by Nikon, like a sensor better than units more than double its size, or the best and most accurate autofocus in its category, or the fact that that sensor size permits the smallest 70-300 equivalent zoom, or that continuous autofocus in video never hunts, or that adapter don't compromise use of Nikkor lenses. Noooo! I punish Nikon for the conservative auto-ISO taking into account the small sensor; for the less perfect manual focus and lack of customization and no in camera RAW conversion, in a camera supposed to suit beginners and serve as a fun straight forward backup for enthusiast."
I don't own either of these two cameras, and I'm not sure what to make of the DPR review? What I can make something of, is the fact that the V1 costs nearly $1000, which I think is way too much for the offering - even if it is very nice. I'd be very tempted to seriously consider the J1 at $400 cheaper, though, if only it had a proper flash hot shoe, or even iTTL wireless commander function.
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Posted on Jan 24, 2012 at 09:00:08 UTC
Michael Thompson: Thease photos are awfull! we have had 3 days of frosty nights and crystal clear blue sky weather here in the UK and this is the best DPR can produce?
Once upon a time DPR had photographers who had skill experiance and passion i fear those days are gone - Amazon what have you done.
No wide angle Landscape photos in sunshine this to check image detail near and far, i could go on but what is the point.
A photography website without skilled photographers what a joke! my neighbours 12 year old doughter could do better (with her mobile phone lol! Michael
I agree with eoonline. These shots tell me all I need to know about the camera. The photography skills can be assessed on a different forum!
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Posted on Jan 17, 2012 at 13:13:14 UTC
danijel973: The removable batteries are generally preferrable but generally speaking, I would be satisfied knowing that a battery *can* be replaced at a dealership or a service center. It's not such a big deal if it *can* be replaced at all. But if it can't, then it's a big no-no.
Couldn't agree more! A fixed built-in battery to me is a deal-breaker. If I cannot replace the battery myself I don't take the phone, period!
johnparas11zenfoliodotcom: with its size.. I might as well just buy a Nikon D5200.. :-) although it will be reversed..better still and so-so video ? ;-)
I'd seriously consider this type of camera system as a DSLR replacement, but I'd have to evaluate the EVF claim in the review summary myself first. If it indeed has a distinct color cast & poor optics, that will be my deal breaker! On the same budget I'll then buy the Nikon D7100.
I've been living with a Note I as my primary communication device for 18 months now. Functionally it's a great device, but size-wise it is marginal. Even 3mm wider would be the deal-breaker for me because then it won't fit into a denim or shirt pocket any longer, which is my criteria for defining the "phablet" concept. I presume I'll consider these new devices to be small tablets!
cgarrard: $1,100 for the Nikon A? I was liking a lot about the specs till I read that part.... um whoa. Guess Nikon is going for those who like the RX1 but not the price, but still... The Ricoh GRD IV is 28mm fixed, with really good image quality for less than half that price.
The P330 looks appealing, nice zoom range, bright aperture, decent sized sensor (I'm a fan of the 1 1/7" sized sensors), and much better price as well I'm sure.
Add to that the view finder, adapter ring & hood, and you can almost buy two d7000 bodies! I suppose this flood of new devices packaged in every conceivable format & size help sell more sensors, which in turn aid in lowering productions costs. I hope they sell many, but I won't be one of the buyers!
mr_ewok: Luxi turns your smartphone into incident light meter.... an Android version is not anticipated.
would be nice if there stands "iphone" instead of smartphone!
Agreed! I wouldn't have wasted my time opening the article.
Digitall: I had an HTC and not want any more. HTC is poor in after sales service and troubleshooting software. My experience.
Can't agree with you more! I'm still stuck with an HTC Flyer 3G tablet on a 2-year contract, and I promised myself never another HTC product again after my contract expires!
Brilliant work of art!
Polaroid seem to be good at announcing, but poor on delivering!
It may be expensive but 3G connectivity should expose it to the contract data cellular market, and thus make it way more affordable to a larger group of potential buyers!
I don't see the lens and sensor size being the main issue in trying to get the cost down. The Sony RX100 sells for $180 more than the Canon Rebel T3 with an 18-55mm kit lens! The IQ-gap may be filled by a 1" sensor, but the price "consternation" still remains! I think the biggest challenge lies rather in optimizing the overall design to a more competitive price. I would typically want my DSLR to last 6 years, but I'd be happy if I can get 3 out of a P&S.
NomadMark: I get a kick out of most who complain about the size as well, to be honest. While a nice flat pancake might be nice, even with the Kit 18-55mm or Zeiss 24mm, the camera is still so light. I own a 5Dmk2 and 7D along side a slew of lenses, and I love them, but they are a task to carry around ALL THE TIME. I bought a Nex7 a few months ago, and for real, I ALWAYS have it. I never miss an opportunity. I have a super small fossil "man purse" (lol) that I've grown used to carrying. It always has the body and 3 lenses in it; The Sigma 19, 30, and Zeiss Planar 50mm f2. Size wise, this equates to the size of my 5D body, alone, with no lenses...maybe less. Or, I can strole out of the house with the camera and one lens around my neck for the whole day and never notice it's there and there is no issue with handelling. Even with the kit lens, or the Zeiss 50mm I own, the camera is light enough to rest on one left hand finger while held in the right. There is zero issue with balance for me.
The 5D is larger than the Rebel series? I know the 7D is huge!
Cheezr: Kudos to Nikon for being first with the next gen compact.
Who woulda thunk it?
As far as I'm aware, the SCH-W880 was only sold in Korea. The Polaroid SC1630 I've only seen in write-ups dating back to Feb. 2012. Neither of these products can be found on B&H's website. In my opinion thus Nikon is the first company to actually deliver, as you can pre-order your S800c as we speak!
So it's curtains for the Polaroid SC1630! If you snooze you lose!
I do not agree with Kate Bevan. In my opinion, photography is far more than just a picture telling a story. It can also be required to convey emotion and illustrate artistic expression. Software like Instagram plays an important part in fulfilling this role, and really opens the creative realms much further than the mere technical requirements of framing a shot and getting the lighting correct. When your camera hardware has limited optical capability as is the case with cell phone cameras, I found by using software like Instagram/Vignette/LittleCamera/etc these shortcomings can quite often be creatively exploited. People who think photography is nothing more than producing a "pin sharp" image with expensive equipment may agree with Kate, but I prefer to be more open minded.
I think a 460kdot display is a bit marginal for a camera without a native viewfinder and a $800 kit price tag!
The problem in today's business world, is that senior management teams tend to be composed of legionaries working on contract for the highest buck! Their passion is more focused on the currency they're earning than on the product generating that currency! Without passion for the product, it's nothing more than gambling with experience, which isn't always enough!
The management team of Kodak took the company out of the high-end market by discontinuing their premium cameras! It's like a famous restaurant saying "Although we established our name with french cuisine, in future we should focus on burgers & fries". What the big Kodak probably did not realize, was that they dropped into the street-corner mass-market segment where the players are quick and light on their feet.
It will be sad to see them disappear! IMO licensing a good name is just another "epic fail" decision. They need a "Steve Jobs" turnaround plan rather!
I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but I feel I must mention that in South Africa wedding photographers are fortunate (or exceptionally talented) if they're able to get a couple to pay even $1500.00! Adding further insult to injury, the cost of photographic equipment is generally between 20% & 40% higher here than in the USA or Canada.
I must also say that $15 000.00 weddings are quite rare here, except for the relatively wealthy. The wedding budgets I often observe, are in the region of about $7000 to $8000!
Altruisto: Shame on Dpreview. I have always believed their judgements, but it happens that I had the opportunity lately to try a big number of mirrorless cameras and enthusiast compacts, and by far Nikon 1 system was the most satisfying. So I'm very upset for all those who would be fooled by this journalist masturbation. "oh! po po po, it's a camera for beginners, so I don't care about all the unique advances made by Nikon, like a sensor better than units more than double its size, or the best and most accurate autofocus in its category, or the fact that that sensor size permits the smallest 70-300 equivalent zoom, or that continuous autofocus in video never hunts, or that adapter don't compromise use of Nikkor lenses. Noooo! I punish Nikon for the conservative auto-ISO taking into account the small sensor; for the less perfect manual focus and lack of customization and no in camera RAW conversion, in a camera supposed to suit beginners and serve as a fun straight forward backup for enthusiast."
I don't own either of these two cameras, and I'm not sure what to make of the DPR review? What I can make something of, is the fact that the V1 costs nearly $1000, which I think is way too much for the offering - even if it is very nice. I'd be very tempted to seriously consider the J1 at $400 cheaper, though, if only it had a proper flash hot shoe, or even iTTL wireless commander function.
Very nice camera, but a pity about the high price tag.
The prohibitive price will keep me way in the background until, or even if, it shows a substantial decrease!
Michael Thompson: Thease photos are awfull! we have had 3 days of frosty nights and crystal clear blue sky weather here in the UK and this is the best DPR can produce?
Once upon a time DPR had photographers who had skill experiance and passion i fear those days are gone - Amazon what have you done.
No wide angle Landscape photos in sunshine this to check image detail near and far, i could go on but what is the point.
A photography website without skilled photographers what a joke!
my neighbours 12 year old doughter could do better (with her mobile phone lol!
Michael
I agree with eoonline. These shots tell me all I need to know about the camera. The photography skills can be assessed on a different forum!