Mupepe: I sold my Nikon D7000 (plus 2 lenses and flash) and bought a X-E2, mainly because of weight and bulk. Based on some first impressions review, I thought X-E2 as a better (in terms of IQ) camera than D7100, thanks to the X-trans sensor.I just received the Pop Photo review of the X-E2 and, comparing to the D7100 review, I found that, besides weight and bulk, D7100 is a better camera: resolving power, color accuracy, noise...and, of course, focus speed (but this is not important to me).Are PP's reviews reliable? Did I make the wrong choice?
You stated what's important to you, and with that, you made a very good choice in buying the XE2. When you become familiar with the X lenses, you'll find they're some of the best glass you can get for the money - very reminiscent of the high end lenses of the 70s and 80s. -- If you take the time to truly learn the camera and become one with it, you'll never regret buying it.
As I said before; I've had the XE1 for over a year, and have put it through its paces with several X lenses. -- All of the manual dials still work perfectly and always have. I have several X lenses and they all work flawlessly with the XE1, and their quality and solid integrity remind of the superior glass we had back in the 70's and 80's for our SLRs and high-end range finder cameras. (I suspect the one who said the dials are all loose on his XE1 and have to be taped down is either a competitor's troll or he got a very badly abused camera)
I'll wait a little while until the production XE2 and XT1 are out on the street in photographers' real-world hands and then read their reviews again and then make my decision to trade in my XE1 for one of them or stay with the XE1 and continue to get some of the best photos I've taken in the past 45+ years. --- (And again: Anyone trashing the XE1 is certainly either trolling or got a very rare lemon or heavily abused one.)
I've had the XE1 for over a year now, and it's been an excellent camera for me. The only thing I would like to be better is faster focusing in low-light and have the split image manual focusing I had on my SLRs of yesteryear. Otherwise, it focuses perfectly each and every time. The XE2 and the XT1 claim to focus better in low light, and now have manual split image focusing, which could get me trade in my XE1 for one of them. - My first semi-pro camera was a SLR I bought in '69 - a Hanimex Practica Nova 1. - It had a light meter built in but otherwise was a totally manual SLR. I became one with that camera and produced a lot of excellent photos. I've owned several since then; Miranda -Minolta-Olympus and Canon. But, since digital cameras took over, I've gone from one to another of high cameras looking for that experience again of being one with the camera and never came close to that feeling again until I purchased the XE1. It is a beautiful ole-timer photographers digital camera.
rhackel: After months of anticipation based upon glowing pre-reviews from Dpreview, my X-E1 arrived a week ago, and today I am returning it back to the store. Evidently the trans-x sensor is proving difficult for Adobe and others to translate correctly, which results in a "watercolor effect" within the tonal details. And this has been a problem since the X-Pro 1 was released almost a year ago? I'll wait until I hear this has been fixed because otherwise the camera is almost useless to me. Other than that (big) issue, I really like all of its features and handling!
"Proving difficult to translate"??? --- If one app can do it, then it must not be too difficult to translate. And since LR is an Adobe product, the question is why doesn't PS support the X-trans RAW format? -- It's not Fuji's fault Adobe is so inept it can't get it's development teams on the same page.
This has got to be the lamest most idiotic excuse for dissing a product; that "someone else" doesn't support it. Last I knew - Fuji didn't own Adobe, and so you blame Fuji for Adobe not being on the ball enough to support the X-trans raw format??? --- From what I've read; LR4 does support the X-trans raw format and after the user does their homework, and "learns" the curve of a new product, it processes X-trans raw format beautifully in any way you want. So, as we used to say in computer support: this is a clear case of user malfunction.
Excellent results here. Even top of the line cameras are challenged to properly handle the color saturation of stained glass windows.
Excellent shot. It wasn't that long ago that a camera capable of taking this quality of a photo under these circumstances cost between $4K and $7K - depending on the lens used. The XE-1 is quite an accomplishment in its price bracket.
Palegolas: Is it the same sensor as in the X-Pro1, or is it based on the same sensor? The new firmware speeds things up, I hear, but does it improve the Rolling Shutter situation?
X-Pro1's Rolling Shutter is among the worst I've seen.. It would be a shame if the situation on the X-E1 is just as bad, now that they've included some video-centric stuff like microphone input, on this otherwise amazing camera.
In one review of the X-Pro1, it made a point of saying this is not a video camera, Fuji seemngly making that point too by not putting a dedicated video button on the camera. And the same would likely be true of the X-E1. If you need a video camera with the ability to take still shots, maybe that kind of camera would be a better choice. From the reviews of the video of the X-series cameras, they all seem to think its quite adequate for a primary still shot camera in this price range.
cesaregal: Good news:- X-E1 wins Photokina STAR 2012 award- Zeiss will produce lenses T* for Fuji XF mount.I believe IQ will be excellent.
....the news about the Fuji X-series cameras just keeps getting better. Now Zeiss will make lesnes with the Fuji X-mount, and Fuji already makes an adapter for Leica M lenses. Wow! Very cool....
max metz: For me the x-e1 represents the very best in full frame capability by using the very latest technology to deliver in build and image quality while bringing the complexity facing the user back to a sensible level.
The price is a gift.
Never being keen on lenses on a trolley that cost as much as the vehicle used transport them, just to appear as if one was standing right in front of the javlin thrower, this will be my primary camera by year end.
With the technical terminology as it currently is; the X-E1 is not called a 'full frame' camera. It has an APS-C size sensor, which isn't as technically important as the sensor being an X-trans format, which is an innovation resulting in significant improvement of the camera's performance that some say rival the performance of full frame Bayer-type sensors, and it seems that claim or opinion is being proven by what the X-Pro1 can produce. Since the X-E1 has the same sensor and processing engine of the X-Pro1, it will produce the same high performance. At the price of the X-E1 with its performance of the X-Pro1, it is indeed an excellent value.
Seagull67: I have owned the X100 for the last 8 months. I have thoroughly enjoyed using this camera for superb (to me) pictures of my family, street photography, landscapes & architecture. The image quality is always beautiful and enticing. I very easily carry the camera everywhere every day. I just concentrate on taking the picture I want & this camera works by not getting in the way with distracting fiddly menus or irritating physical bulk. Once you've set it up the way you want you can focus fully on taking an excellent photograph: which is what it all about. I will also be buying the X-E1 as it has a similar physical size to the X100 and it will allow me to use a greater number of lenses. I never use the optical viewfinder on the X100 so I don't need one - the EVF is very good on the X100 and is, so it seems, even better on this new camera. I love the fact that the Fujifilm X cameras are very well made & beautifully designed tools that, although not cheap, don't cost silly money.
Excellent review of your personal experiences with the X100. Thanks. --- Your point about the X-series cameras being of high quality build with impressive IQ while not costing "silly money" is the main point everyone should keep in mind about the cameras. Obviously, if price is no object, then other cameras would be a more logical choice. If price is a serious consideration for the prosumer, then the X-series cameras are a superb value.
Third Eye Focused: OK. I have owned an X100 for 6 months and am very impressed, particularly with image quality. Even JPEGS. I am keen on low light and night photography and in those areas it is superb - hand held shots at night! It is very portable though not a pocket camera. Much has been written about firmware problems and slow operation but I have not noticed that they have impeded the production of quality photos. I should point out that I do not do sports or wildlife photography for which this camera would be wholly unsuitable. It's horses for courses and buying whats right for you. At least this camera does not pretend to be all things to all men. I admit that I miss a few shots through not having a 70-90mm lens option. I think the X-Pro 1 looks an option I might consider but not the X-E1. Shaving a bit of the size, weight and price is not enough to distinguish it. It should have had a multi-angle rear screen to set it apart, especially considering the loss of the optical veiwfinder.
You make excellent points that anyone should consider when deciding what camera is "right for them". I am also one who likes to do and does a lot of low-light and night photography, so a camera's ability to produce quality photos at low ISO settings in low-light situations is what grabs my attention in what a camera can do. The X-series cameras with their X-trans sensor and bright fast lenses promise to do excellent work in low light, which is the main attraction for me.
Peak25500: Is the 14mm lens compatible with the X-pro 1 OPTICAL viewfinder?
If the X-Pro1's OVF is not already compatible with the new 14mm lens, then a simple firmware upgrade will make it so, because the camera senses the particular X-series lens that's been attached, and modifies the Field of View brackets (rectangle) in the OVF accordingly.Also; the hyrbid VF of the X-Pro1 is (as far as I know) the first of its kind ever, and it probably was a very expensive R&D item and still an expensive little gadget to produce and get it done right, which probably comprises most of the reason why the X-Pro1 is several hundred $$$ more expensive than the X-E1 -- along with other differences of course.
brownmarsh: So, to the question at hand - am I drooling over the X-E1? No - but then ... neither Canon, Nikon or Sony has anything to match the Fuji X range.
Exactly - so far; no other competitor can 1:1 match the IQ of the X-trans sensor and processor, which is what has produced much of the prosumer interest in the cameras along with their retro manual controls and their beautiful retro body design. I don't think anyone is "drooling" over the X-E1 like people do over other cameras which are a prosumer's dream camera, but unfortunately at a price so high very few can afford. The X-E1's draw is its X-Pro1 IQ at a highly competitive price point of $999 body-only and $1399 with the zoom kit lens - a combination of function and price that is currently so competitive it may be unbeatable for a while in its prosumer category....
codeNsnap: XE-1, E for Enthusiast I guess..waiting for sample pictures...
I think the "E" is for "Electronic" - as in Electronic View Finder vs the Optical View Finder in the X-Pro1, but that's just a guess. And I guess it could stand for anything that starts with an E that the owner wants it to stand for....
The X-E1 having the same sensor and processor as the X-Pro1; using the same lens on both cameras, the sample photos should be as close to identical between the X-Pro1 and X-E1 as any two cameras could get. The differences between the two cameras should not affect photo quality in any way - given all other things are kept equal - the lens - the working environment, which includes the photographer - and the same settings. The differences between the two models are so the two together in the line-up (along with the X-100) cover a much broader range of photographers' camera preferences than either one could cover by itself. Take a gander at the photos from the X-Pro1 which have been posted by Fuji and X-Pro1 owners and you'll see what the X-E1 will produce using the same lens in the same environment.
chrisfromalaska: "its rear screen is slightly downgraded in terms of both size and resolution, to a still-respectable 2.8" 460k dot LCD - according to Fujifilm this is necessary to keep the camera's size down"
There are many cameras much smaller than the XE1 with higher resolution screens - what a crappy place to cut costs.
So they gave the EVF a much needed boost and recycled the rear LCD from one of its 2008 cameras. Aye...
I highly suspect the choice of LCD screen for X-E1 had to do - not only with cost - but also a matter of not having to redesgn the back layout they chose for the X-series cameras. If you look at the back of the camera, they would have to move all that's on the right of the screen further over to the far right so the LCD screen could clear the VF and move the top edge up and the bottom edge down and then move the right edge of the screen over to the right to get the correct ratio size of a 3 inch screen - crowding the right side of the back even more - which I don't think would have worked well at all. So, the size of the screen is best for the back layout and overall size of the camera. As for the 460k dot resolution; it is still the most common screen resolution on digital cameras, and in 2008, a 230k dot screen was considered quite good and was the most common across the range of digital cameras. So, the X-E1 is fine with a hi-def EVF and a common LCD screen.
Richard Murdey: The X-Pro1 was a beautiful, expensive brick. The XE-1 brings the size down into X100 territory, in short: ideal. The OLED EVF is a compromise I can live with.
The optical VF is indeed something some photographers just won't give up, and a camera without an optical VF becomes a deal-breaker. If that is you, and you want to save some $$$, then the X-Pro1 will probably come down in price when the X-E1 makes it to the shelves. So, if you wait until then, you may get an X-Pro1 at a couple hundred more (body only) than an X-E1 body. Also, by now there are probably 'open box' prices on the X-Pro1. These are usually cameras that have been ordered and sent back for some personal reason within a 30-day return policy, and have been checked out to have no defects or user damage of any kind, so they are generally a very good value. And when you buy a discounted open box product, you should only do it if you will be able to put the product through its paces immediately after receiving it so any previous-owner unseen damage will show up within the return policy limit.
Nuno Souto: Funny. When the Xpro-1 came out and I commented the viewfinder was idiotic without an inbuilt dioptre correction, I got back derogatory comments from idiots here, saying it was not relevant.Apparently, Fuji thought it was. Where are the "experts" now, I wonder?Same old same old, Usenet or dpreview forum...
Yep. Exactly. -- For the millions who don't have 20/20 vision, VF diopter correction is very important. There's no way it can be simply irrelevant on any VF. The X-Pro1 not having it must have been an oversight. I can't imagine it being left off as a result of a thoughtful descision, and I'd be for sure it will be there on the X-Pro2.
Norman L. Allen: To those that are already using the X-Pro1 or X100, can you tell me the type of shooting you typically do with them? I'm a Canon shooter (1D and 5D), and I own a Panasonic GX1, but I fell so in love with the size and capability of the GX1 that I am seriously considering the X-E1 as my camera of choice, going forward (and getting rid of the GX1, at a minimum). Thoughts from the Fuji camp?
Well, I guess everyone's at a football game - I'm at home watching one and multi-tasking. -- Given the X-Pro1's real world owner reviews being so positive, it would seem the X-E1 is going to be a shoe-in mega-success at it's price point. I hope Fuji can keep the quality up and don't cut any corners while meeting sales demand. It's pertinent to always keep in mind that for everyone except those who can buy a 52 foot yacht like the rest of us buys a hamburger, top considerations are always about value for the $$$ spent. And, it's quite obvious if enough money is spent, you can have any camera you want; even a camera that operates flawlessly in the zero gravity, 450 F degrees below zero temps of outer space. In everyday life though, most everyone needs to get the most for their money, and at X-E1's price point of $999 for the body, with all it evidently is capable of doing, I don't see how it can be eclipsed by any other camera at this time....