Marty4650: It all comes down to this:
1. It can be small (like Pentax Q)2. It can be sexy (like Fuji X)3. It can be cheap (like Samsung NX)4. It can have scores of lenses (like M4/3)
But you can't have everything in the same system.
Pick which two you want, then select your system accordingly. Stop wishing for everything in the same system, because it will never happen.
And now Sony offers a fifth option that no one else has...
5. It can have a full frame sensor with world class image quality.
If you want an apple, then don't buy an orange.
While designing lenses for high-resolution sensors is different to designing for film, I can't help thinking of the superb compact 28/35/45/90 AF lenses that Zeiss built for the Contax G system. I'd love to know if the large lens size is a technical requirement.
I feel sad about this... It's an amazing technology, but the idea it could be more than a gimmick for stills photography seemed wrong-headed to me. I wish them well, and really hope there's a market for them somewhere.
disraeli demon: Glad to see the μ4/3 lens stable continuing to expand. Before switching to mirrorless, I was using Nikon APS-C and was constantly disappointed by the lack of compact fast primes for that format. Four years on from switching, Nikon does have a 40mm macro for APS-C, but neither they nor Canon offer a 60mm f2 (i know there are "nifty fifties," but that extra 10mm does make a difference). Neither company has anything to match the range of fast wide-angle primes offered by μ4/3... Or Fuji...
As far as Nikon goes, when I was shooting 35mm film I had a "classic" set of primes; 28mm 2.8, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.4 and 85mm 1.8. To get that range for APS-C you could get the Nikon 18mm 2.8, so long as you have a screw-drive body and don't worry about how long Nikon will support those old lenses, no 24mm f2, no 35mm 1.4 (Either Nikon 35mm 1.8 or Sigma 30mm 1.4 which is bigger that my 50 1.4 and has a dubious reputation for focussing, no 60mm f2. I think Sigma does/did 20 and 24mm f2 lenses but they were designed for 35mm so they were the size of beer glasses. When I talk about "compact " I'd include the Nikon 35mm 1.8 for DX,.
Marty4650: There seems to be a real disconnect between making an "affordable camera" for lenses that cost between $4,000 and $10,000.
I mean... why bother?
Can't the Leica lens owner afford a Leica camera?If someone can't afford those lenses, they why would they buy this camera?
Did I miss the part where Konost was planning to create a few affordable lenses for their affordable camera?
I'd say Konost is solving a problem that doesn't exist. Perhaps they might have been better off creating an affordable rangefinder camera that uses Nikon F lenses?
I own a battered old M-42 with a couple of lenses and would LOVE an affordable digital body to attach them to. Even second hand M digital bodies are way beyond my range.
ogl: 42.5/1.7 = 85/3.4 for 35 mm system.....It's slow lens.
I've got to say, if you're dead set on shallow depth of field, why shoot μ4/3 in the first place? The thing I love about the format is being able to get greater depth of field for the same light-gathering ability at any given aperture. Different strokes for different folks.
Glad to see the μ4/3 lens stable continuing to expand. Before switching to mirrorless, I was using Nikon APS-C and was constantly disappointed by the lack of compact fast primes for that format. Four years on from switching, Nikon does have a 40mm macro for APS-C, but neither they nor Canon offer a 60mm f2 (i know there are "nifty fifties," but that extra 10mm does make a difference). Neither company has anything to match the range of fast wide-angle primes offered by μ4/3... Or Fuji...
Is there any information on whether the sandwich will be made available in μ4/3 for the European market?
I know I'll be completely on the minority here, but I wish camera manufacturers would use this sort of form factor for all high-end compacts (yes, including the ones with 24-90 or -140 zoom ranges). I've used Canon G series cameras and Panasonic LX's, and on all of them I've kept the add-on lens adaptor permanently attached to protect the zoom, allow for use of filters and keep dust out. I'd love something like a Panasonic LX 100 with a non-retracting lens and a manual zoom ring, zoom range maybe 24-90 equivalent, f2-2.8. Faster start up times, no battery draw from the zoom.
A beautiful looking lens, just a shame nobody's making a nice, compact reasonably priced 24mm f2 for APS-C that would give a fast 35mm equivalent.
Given how all the key mirrorless players have either completely abandoned SLR production (Olympus, Panasonic, Samsung) or let it be eclipsed by their mirrorless offering (Sony), I can see why Canon would be extremely nervous about introducing a mirrorless line. As successful SLR manufacturers, they and Nikon face a dilemma that Olympus and Panasonic certainly didn't. They also don't have the deep pockets of an electronics giant like Sony, who can just keep trying new stuff till something sticks.
The Eos M saga, though, really does verge on the ridiculous; it's like watching someone getting into a really cold swimming pool, stuck halfway, neither willing to get out nor quite able to face the shock of going all the way in.
Klarno: There have been a lot of shifts in the world of photography since the transition from film to digital, and many photographers and the industry at large haven't really taken this into consideration. With film, 35mm was primarily an amateur format that ended up getting developed enough that it was very practical for certain professional photography genres. It was the most popular format for consumers, and have always been where the money is. But now, it's possible get exquisite technical image quality, in many cases better than what we could ever get out of 35mm film, out of a sensor smaller than your pinky nail.
In terms of "develop their APS-C" systems, it's worth thinking about lenses; in 2011 I switched "down" from Nikon APS-C to micro four thirds because I had back trouble and could no longer carry an SLR kit. I had a lovely set of Nikon primes from the days of film, and my D50 worked perfectly with them, but the crop factor meant I had no wide angles, and Nikon (has) never really filled those gaps (I was reluctant to invest in old screw-drive lenses as that system was being phased out and the G- type replacements were on the whole huge and expensive.) I really wanted affordable DX format 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2, 30-35mm f1.4 and 60mm f1.8 to give me the classic fast prime focal lengths.Switching the micro four thirds I already had a good set of affordable fast primes available, and that selection has only grown over time. I think Nikon has still only introduced a 35mm 1.8 and 40mm 2.8 macro for DX, and they're ahead of Canon.
Got a chance to play with one in a shop, and I'm deeply disappointed to discover they've ditched the lovely LX-style distance scale (with proper distance markings and depth of field band) for the useless G-series style one that's just a line with a flower at one end and a mountain on the other. Not sure it's a deal breaker but that was a feature I use all the time for depth focussing on my LX7
Honestly, for my purposes, I'd be much happier with a system that pixel bins the 16mp output down to 8mp: I hardly ever print above 10 x 8" and I'm sick of 16mp RAW files eating up my hard drives (and anyone who is about to say "hard disk space is cheap" is welcome to put their money where their mouth is and buy me the replacement drives I'll need sometime before February.)
This looks like a really compelling package - unfortunately, I only upgraded from an LX3 to an LX7 this year, so it'll be while before I can think about getting one.
The only thing that disappoints me about the spec sheet is the lack of high-speed video; it's just about the only video mode I use on my LX7.
But otherwise, for me, it's a perfect set of design decisions; wide-to-short fast lens, step zoom, 12mpix sensor and hot shoe rather than built-in flash. Saving money now...
Could anyone tell me if the LX100 has the same step zoom and zoom/focus resume functions as the LX7?
High flash sync speed and wide-angle macro are the reasons I continue to use an LX7 alongside my GX7. If the reviews show the LX100 is as good as the specs suggest, then it looks like being the eventual replacement for my LX7 in a couple of years.
I was hoping we might get a 14mm prime with clutch-focus but with panasonic providing a cheapo 14mm and a Leica premium 15mm perhaps it's not worth their while...
Congratulations to Panasonic for finally just putting a standard filter thread on the lens of a premium compact.
Anyone know what kind of mechanical shutter this thing has? High speed flash sync via leaf shutter is the main reason I still carry an LX camera.
Foroa: What means "Secondary reflector with two output settings" ?
Foroa - the secondary reflector is a second flash head (you can see it in the front of the flash below the Metz symbol). Imagine shooting a portrait of someone by pointing the main flash head straight up to bounce light off a ceiling. You get nice soft light, but it's coming straight down, so you also get dark shadows under the person's eyes and nose. That second little flash can fire to brighten up those shadows. You can control the power settings to make the shadows lighter or darker.