Too late to the party.
lescrane: Tamron posted MTF charts on their Europe site. Any comments??
Sharpness looks very good but contrast drops as you move away from the centre.
opiecat: nice. does this have a AF focus limiter?
If only it had a short range limiter.
Here is a better picture showing the focusing limits.
BayAreaWZ: It really is interesting that no other companies have come up with a similar product to challenge the RX100 and RX1. I love the concept of the RX10 (but not the price) and have an A7 on pre-order. Keep up the pressure!
I am very surprised that after almost 18 months we still don't have a direct competitor to the RX100.
It seems like some camera companies are afraid of canibalizing their own camera sales
Henry M. Hertz: now how good and accurate is the AF?
AF works great with Nikon bodies.
Now this is interesting. The somewhat larger sensor, fast lens and Raw support could finally make this an interesting camera phone.
What happened to the 150mm f2.8. Is this lens no longer planned.
draschan: interesting to me that this does not stir more enthusiasm. to me m43 is all about size. with the 20mm and the 14mm pancakes it is a perfect match. hope it will be available soon without the kit lens. having very large hands I never had troubles with small cameras. large hands doesn't mean clumsy. I was thinking about getting a ricohGR or rx100II but I will take a look at the GM1 first.
This m43 sensor and the new 15mm f1.7 will have more light gathering ability than either the RX100 or GR. We now have another choice.
abortabort: New 15mm f1.7 'Leica' with aperture control on the lens + GM1 surely is the biggest sign yet of a Leica rebadge of exactly that combo.
It would be the first Leica m43 camera. Something Leica said they would never do.
mrmiguel: Just because the RX100 is $749 doesn't mean this should be. The collapsible design of the RX100 is still better, as is the lens brightness.
But a Leica Summilux 15mm f1.7 is coming in 2014. This lens and body would make an interesting combination for those not interested in a zoom.
Bob Meyer: So wait. Did DPR NOT do the micro-focus adjustment BEFORE running these tests? That's what is sounds like, and if so then the entire test is invalid.
It sounds like they tested a known mis-adjusted system for the standard PDAF test. That's like putting the wrong size tires on your car and then complaining that the speedometer is inaccurate.
Except that it was Canon who put on the wrong size OEM tires.
57even: So to get this camera to focus properly you have to hold it in front of you like a compact and focus using the rear screen? I am the only one who thinks this doesn't really move the game forward in any meaningful way?
This reminds me of the switch from film to digital. There will always be people groaning for the "good old days".
Joe Mayer: I would appreciate it if Canon would spend more time improving the accuracy and consistency of my AF through my viewfinder. Live view autofocus is not an option for the type of shooting I do. I'm not against this new technology, just attached to viewing my subject through the viewfinder. Please do whatever it takes, even if it means making the viewfinder electronic. In the meantime, I'll continue afma-ing my lenses and though it greatly improves the performance of all my lenses, I'd not begrudge no longer having to perform this sometimes tedious procedure.
Unforunately many are still attached to the OVF and don't realize what they are missing with a good EVF.
Ed Gill: Great to see Pentax/Ricoh hanging in there with new innovations. Sadly the flash sync speed is going in the wrong direction for a top of the line camera. Sadly Ricoh/Pentax is following the same old path that Minolta/Sony did and continues along - few pro glass offerings and a constant stream of new bodies. All the digital SLRs are fully competent picture capture devices but the magic and versatility is always in the glass. No Pentax 300mm f2.8 or 500mm f4 and currently no full frame upgrade path, at least Sony is adding some pro capability to the alpha series.
Just go to comparable reviews online. Check DXOMark and SLRGear to see the difference. Even the new 80-400 zoom can match these primes for sharpness.
thegreatxing: SHAME ON YOU NIKON!! You sneakily screw many of those D600 owners with oil problems and threw them under the bus. I don't usually comment on these forums but I felt like I have to say something. I am a long time Nikon user and I have been paying attention to this whole fiasco because I was going to buy the D600 as my first full frame DSLR. I feel bad for all the ones affected by the oily D600.
Scores like this should get updated with a BIG asterisk, explaining ongoing issues with oil residue.
The 200mm f2.8 and 300mm f4 are not that good. Canon and Nikon versions have much greater ability to resolve detail.
tkbslc: Considering most smartphone photos seem to be of people, using SS lower than 1/30 seem to be of little value. My guess is that, like regular cameras, the OIS will merely encourage less savvy photographers to create camera-steady photos with motion blur.
Very interesting. I hadn't realized how low the bar has been set for smartphone photos.
utomo99: I wish Canon make real competitor of Sony RX 100. This S series did not really RX 100 competitor.
I am surprised that after 1 year there is still no direct competitor to the RX100.
For a camera model that has changed so little from the previous version, I am surprised dpreview is spending time on it.
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