princecody: I'll put my EM1 & Nocticron in Monotone mode against this Goliath anyday of the week in a side by side comparison.
@princecodyYou've never ever used a Leica lens, you're just jealous - anyday you'll loose with your EM1 against the Leica.It's overpriced, sensor not up to date technology BUT the lenses without motordrive beats your EM1 by far in combination with the Leica M body.
Michael S.: Canon does show a bit more details/resolution at iso100 than the D810, but less than the 645Z.
And at iso800 - holy cow! The Canon files disintegrates already...so much green/red patterns already at this quite "low" iso! Take a look in the studio comparion around the coins! Cleary looses even to the D810 already.
Excuse me - but what nonsense do you want to convince me off?Buying a 50MP camera and than you're reducing, resizing it to 18, 20 MP to argue - "uhh, has comparable noise" ?!!
Canon does show a bit more details/resolution at iso100 than the D810, but less than the 645Z.
Michael S.: What a nonsense putting 50MP on an 36x24mm sensor. There is no Canon lens that is capable to resolve those tiny pixels.
I used the whole area, not only on side - so my calculations.According lenses - hehe, of course the sweet spot of all lenses is in the center - but what you wrote won't make a landscape photographer happy - and in my understanding, those 5Ds has been made for studio photographers AND landscape photographers.
Michael S.: What you should make out of this new megapixel war is pretty good summed up in the very last sentence:
"As any Nikon owner who went from a 12MP D700 to a 36MP D800 / D810 knows, the definition of ‘acceptably in focus' or 'acceptably sharp' changes somewhat when you step up to a higher-resolution body and we suspect that shooting the EOS 5DS R especially will require a medium-format approach to get the most out of the theoretical resolution of the sensor."
Want to use the 5Ds/r as you used your 5D mk II or III before - you'll get blurred pictures. That many pixels on the same sensor size means you have to use shorter exposure times. Use a tripod and do landscape - you may get happy.
Hmmm...there has to be something wrong in the calculatons.As far as I do know, better is written - the 24mp APS-C sized Nikon SLR, like a D7100 or D5500 does have 4.8 microns as does the 36MP full frame D800/D810.So how could a 24MP APS-C sized Canon do have the same pixel size as the 50MP 5Ds/r?
What you should make out of this new megapixel war is pretty good summed up in the very last sentence:
@mikesco: What? Why should the pixel size be the same? In the 7D Mk II its about 4.1microns.In the 5Ds now about 3.4microns if I calculated it correct. A 6D has about 6.6 microns, so twice that of the 5Ds.
@jgardia - I wrote "Seeing is believing"...we'll see.
@mantra - that's fanboy talk - there are new lenses too, a 24-70 mk II coming up for Nikon - so keep in mind and the pixel size of the D800 is already down to 4.8 microns.
It really seems that some C-fanboys don't want to see the problem that comes with this 50MP sensor on just 36x24mm.
Let me give you a practical example - I used a D3s, so 12MP on full frame, for theatre shooting...than the D800E - same lens, same location, same photographer. With the D3s I could use 1/200s with the 70-200mm lens to get sharp photos - with the D800E I had at least go up to 1/320s, if not 1/400s.
More pixels, smaller pixel size needs a faster shutter speed else you get blurred pictures due to motion.
And I really want to see the so common 24-70mm f2.8 lens, event stopped down to f4.0 or f5.6 to show more resolution, more details. I'm not convinced just by marketing guys that the lenses available right now really can resolve all those 50.2MP!
What a nonsense putting 50MP on an 36x24mm sensor. There is no Canon lens that is capable to resolve those tiny pixels.
*lol* ..."to celebrate production of 100 Mill Canon lenses". Truth is CANON does not sell so much lenses as before.Maybe the should think more about that instead of using such easy to overcome PR.
Hehe...so - not long and CANON will present a new model every single month then!?
If I've calculated correct - sensor size about 6,2 x 4,7mm.With its 14MP that should be around 1,4um.
Would not expect to be a high-iso killer!
Despite BEING a good camera, the OM-D for sure is not the "BEST" of the year 2012.
Just mobilized the whole Oly/m4/3 forum very good.
Long awaited by many customers - so hopefully the output will be satisfying - then it will be a winner.
Unbelieveable how many people are still making idiots out of them by still saying it has been a fake.
Sorry boys - but grow up...exactly 12 men have been ON THE MOON and all your rubbish talking can't change that.
Actually it does look like as
a) almost all posters here are too young to remember or
b) have already forgotten what Olympus claimed as the introduced the 4/3 system long time ago.
I have been there - as Olympus EUROPE introduced, marketed the at that time new and 100% digital 4/3 system with the upcoming E1.
The two sentences that fell and have always been repeated by the presenters have been:
1) "5 Megapixels are enough..."2) "We will have smaller, lighter and cheaper lenses than our competitors".
Without a doubt - both clamis have failed.
CANON seems to be very nervous about their portfolio if they have to marketing THAT very, very, very old feature...
Just for the fanboys...
I would say CANON users would really more like to see this camera on the SHELF - so they could buy it!
Juck: Lots of pointless posturing here by the M4/3 fanboys.
There isn't an amateur or professional alike that wouldn't cover the Olympics with a Lumix, Kodak Brownie, I-Phone or Potato-Print if the manufacturer dropped a solid-gold Buick in their lap.
This is a publicity stunt.
Done. Go about your business.
Actually I am NOT the one who said: "Look we give a professional one of our cameras to cover the Olympics and the look then good enough...".
Maybe YOU should change your perspective...I just wrote I can't see the point of this marketing move. I am NOT comparing those cameras but saying it is complete nonsense of Panasonic to give the impression that you can use the G5 for "professional" work - however you may define "professional".
Puh...actually I can't follow Panasonics's marketing intentions here...
To give an example - I have chosen randomly one of the iso1600 pictures of the opening ceremony and here is a 100% untouched crop from it:
These looks like an iso12800 above picture if taken with my D3s.
So I can't see the point.