I think the DPR should pause with news from Adobe for a while. At this time, Adobe is not welcome in the community, and I am not what I say, but they are the facts that confirm that. And should offer alternatives to Adobe products and thus also help people find the alternative to the image editing more conveniently. There may be users dedicated to Adobe products, but there are many others who dispense Adobe and wish to find alternatives, and others who may never have used Adobe products. Help people first, your readers. Just an opinion.
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Posted on May 16, 2013 at 00:23:07 UTC
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sirkhann: Can someone please ask them why camera shake reduction and other new Photoshop Cloud stuff is not in implemented in Lightroom, where it actually belongs but we will have to pay for monthly access instead?
"If you need camera shake reduction you're obviously a professional graphic artist." Perfect! lol
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Posted on May 15, 2013 at 18:20:14 UTC
Digitall: Olympus IF you put this camera right now at $600 with kit lens, I shall convert to M43 religion. Want to try? :)
I know OMD very well, not by specs, but in my hands and photos. Not mine, from a friend that lent me for a month, but still have the same opinion, thats why I like PEN style. Does the M43 is doomed to 16mp to achieve optimal image quality? We continue to see progress in the bodies and lenses, progress of sensors stopped? ;)
*sure there are many reason to pick-up the m43, but... you see my point.
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Posted on May 13, 2013 at 22:16:31 UTC
Digitall: Olympus IF you put this camera right now at $600 with kit lens, I shall convert to M43 religion. Want to try? :)
No problem at all. See my POV, Buying a M43 for that price, cameras and other systems need to be considered. It's all very interesting for those in the M43 system, hand it is a tempting option to enter the system with some perks. Therefore, and having to invest in lenses, this camera starts to be expensive to the displayed price. Other systems may be more tempting based on APS-C format sensor. For me, the M43 has to justify on the basis of price and maneuverability, without these qualities for me the M43 is not justified at all. Preferring systems with larger sensors and the benefits resulting therefrom. Personally I do not change the format APS-C with the possibilities of today's cameras have the ~same size of a M43. Yes, I really like this camera, but not at any price, I think the M43 system needs to captivate more clients, and I think this way it becomes more difficult to justify. Mainly in the U.S. and EU market.
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Posted on May 11, 2013 at 02:19:20 UTC
The Adobe CC reverie, about their innovative idea and the welcome sign in this community you got more than 4730 users feedback. Well done Adobe actually I do not see a great future, and it appears that Stock market talk about it too.
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Posted on May 9, 2013 at 19:50:54 UTC
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Yanko Kitanov: HELL NO! Enough is enough. Mama can I go more than 99 days offline? Sorry I need a product, not a service. Period. Moving to a pirate copy for free when Adobe CC arrives. :)
That's true, we need a product, not a service. Period.
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Posted on May 9, 2013 at 18:14:33 UTC
I hope this problem as an example to many companies who think to come make the same mistake that Adobe is trying to do. It's good to learn from the mistakes of others, or will have to learn the hard way. The decision is always the client side, not abuse.
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Posted on May 9, 2013 at 18:06:03 UTC
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I keep my CS6, no more PS for me. When I need another program, see what is on the market and will make my decision. I use PS since version 3 all originals. This is how Adobe treats customers who always supported the product, turning his back and extort money shamelessly. Still use Lightroom, if the Lightroom pass exclusively for Cloud, will be the death of Lighroom for me and many others. And to replace Lightroom the market is much more broader.
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Posted on May 9, 2013 at 17:44:09 UTC
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ACDSee Pro 6 is a option too among many others for image editing, and can manage RAW/DNG files, here the list: Supported RAW Formats http://www.acdsee.com/en/support/raw-formats
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Posted on May 9, 2013 at 17:22:46 UTC
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I think the DPR should pause with news from Adobe for a while. At this time, Adobe is not welcome in the community, and I am not what I say, but they are the facts that confirm that. And should offer alternatives to Adobe products and thus also help people find the alternative to the image editing more conveniently.
There may be users dedicated to Adobe products, but there are many others who dispense Adobe and wish to find alternatives, and others who may never have used Adobe products. Help people first, your readers. Just an opinion.
sirkhann: Can someone please ask them why camera shake reduction and other new Photoshop Cloud stuff is not in implemented in Lightroom, where it actually belongs but we will have to pay for monthly access instead?
"If you need camera shake reduction you're obviously a professional graphic artist." Perfect! lol
Digitall: *cough* ni...ne.. hun...dred do...llars?*cough*
LOL nice nice point of view jkoch2
*cough* ni...ne.. hun...dred do...llars?*cough*
Trollshavethebestcandy: By Christmas it will be $800
Body only -$200 off? I bet for less, much less. Maybe that price with Kit lens. We wiill see.
Digitall: Olympus IF you put this camera right now at $600 with kit lens, I shall convert to M43 religion. Want to try? :)
I know OMD very well, not by specs, but in my hands and photos. Not mine, from a friend that lent me for a month, but still have the same opinion, thats why I like PEN style. Does the M43 is doomed to 16mp to achieve optimal image quality? We continue to see progress in the bodies and lenses, progress of sensors stopped? ;)
*sure there are many reason to pick-up the m43, but... you see my point.
Magic Lantern just save you $1000 or more, Canon users to spend on their next model, is usually how brands extort their customers for a small favor :)
Digitall: Olympus IF you put this camera right now at $600 with kit lens, I shall convert to M43 religion. Want to try? :)
No problem at all. See my POV, Buying a M43 for that price, cameras and other systems need to be considered. It's all very interesting for those in the M43 system, hand it is a tempting option to enter the system with some perks. Therefore, and having to invest in lenses, this camera starts to be expensive to the displayed price. Other systems may be more tempting based on APS-C format sensor. For me, the M43 has to justify on the basis of price and maneuverability, without these qualities for me the M43 is not justified at all. Preferring systems with larger sensors and the benefits resulting therefrom. Personally I do not change the format APS-C with the possibilities of today's cameras have the ~same size of a M43. Yes, I really like this camera, but not at any price, I think the M43 system needs to captivate more clients, and I think this way it becomes more difficult to justify. Mainly in the U.S. and EU market.
Digitall: Olympus IF you put this camera right now at $600 with kit lens, I shall convert to M43 religion. Want to try? :)
Not yet :)
But for me to get a system that never thought to enter, would be a reasonable price.
Olympus IF you put this camera right now at $600 with kit lens, I shall convert to M43 religion. Want to try? :)
costansin60913: Wow! Olympus flagships became luxury items! Olympus target is the luxury market.
Leica has to be careful :-)
Digitall: If I chose M43 system, this would be my camera actually.
No doubt
If I chose M43 system, this would be my camera actually.
The Adobe CC reverie, about their innovative idea and the welcome sign in this community you got more than 4730 users feedback. Well done Adobe actually I do not see a great future, and it appears that Stock market talk about it too.
Yanko Kitanov: HELL NO! Enough is enough. Mama can I go more than 99 days offline? Sorry I need a product, not a service. Period. Moving to a pirate copy for free when Adobe CC arrives. :)
That's true, we need a product, not a service. Period.
I hope this problem as an example to many companies who think to come make the same mistake that Adobe is trying to do. It's good to learn from the mistakes of others, or will have to learn the hard way. The decision is always the client side, not abuse.
I keep my CS6, no more PS for me. When I need another program, see what is on the market and will make my decision. I use PS since version 3 all originals.
This is how Adobe treats customers who always supported the product, turning his back and extort money shamelessly.
Still use Lightroom, if the Lightroom pass exclusively for Cloud, will be the death of Lighroom for me and many others. And to replace Lightroom the market is much more broader.
ACDSee Pro 6 is a option too among many others for image editing, and can manage RAW/DNG files, here the list: Supported RAW Formats http://www.acdsee.com/en/support/raw-formats
I think that Adobe is still very creative, just look at this latest CC innovation without doubt. The next step will be to Lightroom. R.I.P.
Digitall: Users from the Adobe perspective:
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Are you trying to be the voice of conscience?