I understand that he has to defend his brand, but I'd feel better about Canon if he'd been a bit more honest about their current sensor offering.
Canon do a lot of things well. They have a great lens lineup, not to mention getting first pick of the 3rd party lenses. Their products are normally well thought out and work as expected. They don't spray oil over their sensors or vibrate too much when you press the shutter. They have a number of things going for them in the autofocus department. Even their financial performance could be seen as a positive when investing in a system.
Their sensors however, are not their strong point.
This is fine, you can't have it all. As long as they're working on it, the system still looks like a good bet. But if I was to take Mr Maeda at his word however, I'd start to worry that I'd be stuck with a sub par DR system for some time.
Honesty can sometimes be the best policy.
I don't want to be a ____ about this but it's a little disappointing that as soon as it's a woman holding the camera we start getting comments specifically relating to her hands (at least one has since been deleted). Surely we're better than that?
milesfinch: If this camera came with a full frame sensor, would that make the unhappies happy?
I think that's a fair point, but there are two things going on here:1) The Canon 7D line is meant for action, not necessarily the highest possible technical IQ. This spec looks perfect from this point of view.2) People who do want the IQ (includes me!) got their hopes up that some impressive sensor tech could debut here, perhaps because the original 7D had a nice leap forward in sensor tech at the time. To see what looks like the 70D sensor is a disappointment just because it really feels about time we got something better. It's fine if it comes in the 5Div or whatever is next, but we don't know if this will happen.
Essentially some people here are talking about this camera as an example of Canon's (potential lack of) sensor development, and some as the action shooter it's designed to be. Maybe there isn't that much disagreement after all!
No, I think one of the main complaints here is that the sensor looks unlikely to perform better than its current APS-C (and potentially MF) competition.
PVCdroid: "Wishes have been granted in a big way"? DPReview could at least be honest about this camera. I'd be furious if Canon were my preferred brand.
Karl - I was referring to the Canon Rumours comment. I agree about how absurd it was for the 7DII, but Canon Rumours predicted it for quite a while. Make enough guesses and some will turn out correct.
Only because they kept changing their predictions. I don't see a revolutionary multi layer sensor on it.
My friend phrased it this way: "It's the sensor of the 70D, with the autofocus of the 1DX and the buttons of the 5DIII".
JoeAmateur: After re-reading all the comments, I have come to a conclusion: the 7D Mk II is one of the worst cameras ever made for people who read about cameras, ever. On behalf of all actual Canon shooters, I apologize for the lack of serious readability this new model provides; it's not nearly as cool as other cameras I've read about.
Sadly, I will be just using it instead of reading about it.
You haven't used it. You have read about it. You've also now typed about it and used it as a tool to mock opinions that you disagree with. It's turning out to be a pretty versatile camera.
MaxTheHorse: Genuine no-troll question. In the UK this camera is being sold for almost exactly 2x the price of the APS-C Nikon D7100. It's only £230 less than the new Full Frame D750. That seems somewhat over the top. What am I missing? One other observation. Most people agree that both Nikon and Canon are feeling the heat from mirrorless. With the new (relatively) lightweight D750, Nikon at least seem to be going some way to trying to address one disadvantage of the DSLR relative to mirrorless, namely weight. So how come Canon have put out a new DSLR that is not only heavier than the Nikon APSC equivalent but also their new FF D750? As I say, not trolling, just genuinely curious.
On the weight point, I think this camera is hoping to sell on its "pro APS-C" credentials. Compare it to a 1DX (also very bulky, pro spec and, dare I say it, perhaps not featuring the sensor I'd want in a £5k camera) and it actually looks good value. Some posters below have done just that. Canon figure that build quality trumps size for this market, and for those that disagree there is always the 6D or the SL1.
I think I've touched on the price question here too. Many users compare this camera to others in the Canon range and not its competition. Perhaps due to lens investment, perhaps due to emotional investment. I don't know. I do also think though that for some users this camera is just what they wanted. It's one heck of an AF unit, it'll take some knocks and it'll probably not let its users down. Good for birding for a start.
For me though, for that cost and weight, I'd want a class leading sensor.
Lanski: I just feel that right now we could ask for so much more. 128GB of flash memory is getting pretty small and pretty cheap. So are card readers, and it can't take a supercomputer to run a simple backup. I'd like to see a genuinely small automatic backup drive that takes CF and SD and doesn't cost the Earth. Is that not possible? Until then, I'll stick with my 10in Windows device.
Yes, as Dave pointed out, I was talking about backing up cards in order to have two copies of my images ASAP, in order to guard against card failure or theft etc. I think that is a key purpose of the device in this article.
I just feel that right now we could ask for so much more. 128GB of flash memory is getting pretty small and pretty cheap. So are card readers, and it can't take a supercomputer to run a simple backup. I'd like to see a genuinely small automatic backup drive that takes CF and SD and doesn't cost the Earth. Is that not possible? Until then, I'll stick with my 10in Windows device.
These have been around for ages. I had a "Hyperdrive" - I think that was what it was called. It read CF cards too. Very useful product, although I guess it's becoming slightly less useful now that netbooks/full windows tabs are becoming so small. My current solution is an Asus T100, a card reader and as many USB sticks as I like. I guess if space was highly critical then I'd still have a use for something like this... if it had a CF reader...
sdh: OMG - ROFLMAO!!I guess the gearphile in me is slightly disappointed, but truthfully I don't really care. I sooooooo have more gear than I really need.
Ooh, what's that I see outside my window just now; I think it's interesting light falling on something interesting. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to grab any camera whatsoever and see if something interesting can come of it....
Or I could sit at my computer and whine about how upset I am that somebody hasn't made the bleeding edge of gear bleed more. LOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOL!!
So did you go outside? Did anything interesting come of the interesting light falling on the interesting thing? It'd be interesting to see it.
sneakyracer: DPReview, don't play dumb, you guys signed NDA's many months ago about a few new and exciting Canon products coming up...
Ahhhh, so you must have signed an NDA regarding your NDAs...
These are fascinating. Technically it's Beverley Minster as it's a parish church, just a really big one, but it does indeed look just the same today :)
steveh0607: I noticed this camera was only given a numeric score. No "gold" or "silver" designation. Why?
Because they didn't think it deserved one, and they no longer offer a bronze award. It does seem a little odd that 81% = "outstanding" per the guidance and yet it doesn't get an award, but I think one of the reasons is value, which only takes a tiny role in the % score but may be more significant when it comes to the reviewer feeling the camera deserves an award.
(unknown member): This camera is competent, but no more. Hell it should be excellent! A triumph of marketing over substance. pricing really is plain silly: With Christmas special offers you can get a D800 for less. Hard choice guys?
This is designed to appeal to a certain market: Dare I say Footballers Wives? More money than sense: All fur coat and no knickers?
"you can get a D800 for less". Quite a bit less from where I'm looking. That's the key point for me. I'm sure everyone is affected by style and marketing, even if they don't know it. But would you save up this kind of money and then miss out on a D800? I wouldn't, not for all the retro styling in the world.
onlooker: Some post in this thread make me think of a guy who will not consider buying a car for daily driving because it won't go 140 mph.
I'll be happy to buy a sub 140mph car, as long as it isn't the same price, or more expensive than the one that does do 140mph.
Apparently Mario was seen successfully fighting off 2 more alligators by dropping his cast iron balls on them.
PhotoKhan: If that camera and lens (...and their correspondent sensor type+ FOV + max FL...) took that last photo I guess he should be very happy the gear was all the beast snatched away.
I have this feeling this won't be the last time we will be hearing from Mario in the news...
Think something was lost in translation there. The OP is saying he was very close to the gators and hence lucky to be alive. Anyway, I love the idea of the alligator taking a few snaps, and I love slipping puns in to my posts on DPR.