Oh, so now he became an expert on video as well as photography...He is a one man marketing machine, to be sure. I don't watch him for free - LOL, pay for a video of this obnoxious ass?Yeah, put me down for a no.Thanks.
"...but the single red leaf should be dominant as the subject."
"...with ONE human adult as the main subject."
Paul Kersey Photography: Videographers can rejoice, dedicated still shooters are better served elsewhere. Cool for Panasonic to pick a lane that they can dominate in m43land. The a6000, not renowned for high ISO performance, looks better than GH4 at 1600. That's the rub on m43, close, but always will trail larger sensors.
Paul - Even though the newer bodies are a bit larger they are in no way as large as a FF Nikon or Cannon - But most important in terms of size and weight is the difference when including a handful of lenses and a body.The lenses are smaller and cheaper - So the 'kit' is waaaaay smaller even if the bodies are getting (a little) bulkier.
But the bulk of the m4/3 vs FF is still a discussion of the video capabilities of the Sony which has a uniquely small FF body - But again factor in some lenses (imagining that they could be available for the Sony) and the M4/3 is still MUCH smaller as a kit.
mpgxsvcd: I think Panasonic is doing a great job of embracing what is working for them and not trying to be the absolute best at everything. Their cameras are great for video and really good for stills. They have great ergonomics and reasonable prices. That really sounds like a recipe for success.
Unfortunately, not enough people know they even make cameras. Their advertising is poor at best. Word of mouth is great but Canon and Nikon have proved that you can support an entire camera line with 1 solid endorsement from a famous athlete or actor.
I would love to see Panasonic make really eye catching commercials like GoPro. Just crowd source the footage from your users.
Canon DSLRs are being used as a Pro video cameras at the events I go to. The video quality from those cameras always looks more like 720p than 1080p. 4K is a pipe dream for them. It is a reality with the GH4.
Panasonic hit a home run with the GH4. Unfortunately, the park was closed to spectators that day so no one knows it.
Yeah, the price keeps a camera like the GH4 out of many 'consumers' hands but Panny has other models that are not 'professional flagship' models - The GoPro is like 1/4 of the cost and you don't need any $1500.00 lenses with it - So it isn't really the same animal. Advertising won't change the fact that this is not an inexpensive camera by any assessment.Certainly "Everybody in the video world seems to be aware of the GH4" because it is a very unique product (and it HAS BEEN OUT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME) - But Panny makes a few other models that are highly regarded for much less money.The color on the GH1 (skin tones especially) and the low DR made it barely usable as a camera - I still shoot mine a bit, but replaced it with a FF Nikon.
Disappointed that the review didn't bother to compare the stills capability with the OMD - The assumption is that the OMD is a superior stills shooter, better color, 5 axis IS and a little smaller body...But then I have read that the GH-4 has a little cleaner output, a stop or so perhaps...But to find out we will need to go to a less dismissive review.I believe the entire point of a "Hybrid" camera is to shoot STILLS as well as video...If we remove the video centric pages (and the Meta Bones data??? Included a 'mini-review' on a product not included and not even made by the company that made the camera?? - Say what?) from this review we are left with a very few pages, many of them simply tables of data published almost a year ago by the manufacturer...
tom1234567: As far as I know the Samsung is not out until the middle of Novemberas they were working on a new Firmware,beats me how someone can condemn a camera before its even out!!!!
and Samsung engineers say they are working on firmware,
some people just like to rubbish cameras they troll here quiet often,
post your photos then let us ALL see, put a video on YouTube, show us all the poor focus, poor video, does the GH4 not need a docking station for the 4k video The Samsung does not I wonder why, is it just Panasonic trying to get more monies out of the usersTom G
It records 4k to SD card, but it does it with more bits with the little base unit...No?
mpgxsvcd: Simply a perfect review. Thanks Dpreview. This sums up the GH4 very well.
"...We have waited so long for this review already."It makes you wonder why they bothered as all the details of this camera have been widely known and have been available for months and months...Of course if they found a single thing to tell us that was not already known...But the review was data thin and information absent - And after almost a year, the review gets published before it is ready for prime time - LOL
brycesteiner: It's about time!
Thanks DP. You guys do a good job
If you read the review it will change your opinion...Not of the camera (which has been a known entity for a very many months now) but of DPReview.This is the poorest GH-4 review I believe I have found!What was the point - LOL? The camera has been reviewed to death by much more competent reviewers.
SulfurousBeast: Nice, some really good stuff from the likes of Pany, Sony and Fuji , Oly who are daring to innovate. I still wonder how long the big two will keep "milking" their customers with incremental updates and not truly innovating. i am a Canon user myself, but if it was not for the investments made already over 5K and I am a hobbyist, only thing preventing me to make the switch is my own inertia, sell the curent gear put together a new system etc. but always been amazed and lured to what Sony and Panasoic is doing in this place.
BTW, good review DPR though I almost did not care if GH4 was reviewed already or not.,.so late in getting this out.
"...though I almost did not care if GH4 was reviewed already or not.,.so late in getting this out."
The review was thin, very thin and quite uninformative as all that info (AND MORE) has been out for a very, very long time...Compare to the GH-1 review 20 pages to this poorly published review which is 12 pages...Of course the GH-1 didn't have 4k vid, new focus system, touch screen, weather proofing...No, this review was late, poorly published and not worth the wait.
JerryShots: "A line is an identifiable path created by a point moving in space. It is one-dimensional and can vary in width, direction, and length. Lines often define the edges of a form. Lines can be horizontal, vertical, or diagonal, straight or curved, thick or thin. They lead your eye around the composition and can communicate information through their character and direction."
"Straight or curved..." So all these curved objects clearly contain lines...
Huh?Why would I complain?What would I complain about? It isn't my challenge ;)
Ah yes, it is true! But all so far are bounded by lines as straight and true as the day is long...Perhaps an edge treatment other than none - But I fully expect an image of either a checker board or rail road tracks receding into a plain horizon to be submitted and to take this challenge.
"A line is an identifiable path created by a point moving in space. It is one-dimensional and can vary in width, direction, and length. Lines often define the edges of a form. Lines can be horizontal, vertical, or diagonal, straight or curved, thick or thin. They lead your eye around the composition and can communicate information through their character and direction."
A drinking glass with a base and stem...A base and a stem...A drinking glass with a stem...
Does that mean I can enter my beer glass pics???Hmmm, well lets read this together!!"A drinking glass with a base and stem..."Hmmm, I don't see why not - After all it has freakin BEER in it - How can that be WRONG???
djsphynx: "Unfortunately this option is not available on older or lower spec models that come without a built-in Wi-Fi module"
Is the D810 lower spec'ed or just too old? /s
So if I make the same point you are making, I'm a Troll...Okay Dokay - I'll reflect on that.
So the point you are trying to dispute with me is...?
Did I mis-characterize your post?I think if you re-read my post you will see there is no point of contention...So what point are you trying to make now?
Jorrit: DSLRController with an MR3040...
@EricCul, pay away, LOL - Perhaps you'll find satisfaction with the next version...Or the one after that!The fruit always seems to go bad so fast - Too bad you guys can't get one 'right enough' to actually want to stick with. My Galaxy seems fine, still :)
From Nikon's website"...Instead of building it into the camera so as to not have widgets hanging off the camera or taking over the hot shoe, they'd rather we buy an adapter."
Huh?Had they built it in, there would have been nothing 'hanging off' or in 'the hot shoe' - No loss of ports and nothing superficially 'breakable' or forgettable...As it is, any solution hangs, adapts or plugs into a D800 and batteries may not be included ;)Who is this 'system' good for? (Hint, not the consumer).
Who doesn't have an Android device?