JerryShots: LOL - Anyone who is interested in photography is already using a real 'Adult' program - Why should they be interested in another walk down a plank software treat from Apple? Lightroom is too complicated for Apple users?<chuckling 'cause it's true>
RicD, Aperture was a great program - If only it still existed! If Apple hadn't gotten people to use and like the product and then just dumped them into the street like trash - But am I wrong or is Aperture just another product that Apple decided to JUNK at it's own whim?I don't think this will happen with PROFESSIONAL ADULT PROGRAMS like ADOBE makes.So which came first is irreverent when ONLY ONE IS STILL ON THE MARKET - LOL
I read over and over and over again how it wouldn't save to "iOS Camera Roll" - Could the reviewer <cough, cough> simply have tried the more relevant ANDROID OS to indicate if there were any issues that the majority of prospective buyers might have with this unit?The other COMPLAINT she had with the drive - The whine that ran through the "review" was that it was too slow for in field real time back up. If she said it once she said it 5 times...Why not just have 2nd SD card to use while the drive was taking (four minutes?) to copy from the 1st SD card? No waiting and the solution (to end the whining) costs about 16$ for a 2nd card - Which if you can afford a dam helicopter then a 2nd SD card should already be in your camera bag.Pretty poor "review" imo.
Wow - That iCloud looks like a FANTASTIC DEAL !!!Apple = Cool Beans
LOL - Anyone who is interested in photography is already using a real 'Adult' program - Why should they be interested in another walk down a plank software treat from Apple? Lightroom is too complicated for Apple users?<chuckling 'cause it's true>
JerryShots: Once you upload them to Amazon they will NEVER be deleted. Even after you die, the data value in your files will be mined over and over again...Even after you loose access to the files that you uploaded, they will still be searching for ways to profit from them.Nothing is free - Has any one seen a LARGE DROP in hard drive prices? Amazon must be getting them for free along with Bluffdale, UT...
Why, is that what you do?
Sticks and Stones...That all you have to contribute?
Once you upload them to Amazon they will NEVER be deleted. Even after you die, the data value in your files will be mined over and over again...Even after you loose access to the files that you uploaded, they will still be searching for ways to profit from them.Nothing is free - Has any one seen a LARGE DROP in hard drive prices? Amazon must be getting them for free along with Bluffdale, UT...
Abdo: The only problem is not having a program to synchronize with your computer. Does anyone have a solution for this?
See Edward Snowden...The plug in up loads do not hold up as "PROOF" that YOU uploaded said image...It is a LEGAL thing where you indicate proof of identity with each upload - Plugins do not get visited by government representatives and make poor witnesses in court.This is not a technical limitation.
gary payne: There was a documentary that aired recently - cannot remember if it was 60 Minutes or Frontline or something similar - that noted that Amazon had it's incredible bank of supercomputers in the same skyscaper that the NSA computer bank operates in. It's probably just a coincidence...
I may use a cloud storage facility some day. But I cannot help thinking that these giant storage vaults can be hacked, even if only by an insider. I don't worry about copyright violation, I worry about losing the data. It might be best to use these clouds for backup only.
The ignorance breeds the fear, huh?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center
mike earussi: And just how long is the$11.99 price guaranteed for? Once they have you "hooked" you have to pay up no matter what they charge or lose access to everything.
Yeah, this is Amazon - Not APPLE - LOL
brn: I'm highly suspicious. If they only support a very limited number camera for RAW files, what are they doing with my files?
Dang dummy - This is Amazon/The USGovernement. They accept ANY file - Get it, ANY DAM FILE TYPE at all for a few more bucks per year. So they'll end up with lots of files that they 'don't support' - BUT, this is Amazon, if they want to be "analyzing them somehow" the file type doesn't matter (this is the f*cking NSA/Amazon - Remember?) so what ever type of file, no matter the type of incription used - They have NO EFFECTIVE limits - So they will take all your file types - But to take advantage of this lower price - You need to have 'supported file types' - Otherwise, they are happy as hell to take your RAWS or Vids for an additional price.Yes, they are going to use YOUR files for purposes they are not going to disclose to YOU - Of course, but they will do it to ANY DAM FILE TYPE THAT EXISTS (you idiot) because they have UNLIMITED RESOURCES and get to "analyze" what ever they choose P E R I O D. That's what $$$ does.
Looks interesting to be sure...Selling for over 3 Grand? Yeah, I doubt this is going to be used by too many of us...Sigma (or Tamron) will, with any hope, create one even sharper for about $999.00 and in an F mount ;)
ozturert: Now I'm waiting for a "Tamron looks sharper: Why we're not worried" article from Rishi :)I haven't realized that 14-24mm has sharpness issues between focusing wide open and closed aperture. If you use live view, I would not expect any difference but I'm not %100 sure without trying.I guess curvature would not effect from this distance, would it?Anyway, 14-24mm f2.8 is a remarkable lens and Tamron looks very competitive too.
In live view the mirror is always up and with a remote there is no waiting...
VirtualMirage: To DPR:
In regards the brightness differences between the two, was the D810 using its electronic front curtain? Also, did you notice any depth of field difference?
I had an issue with the Tamron 24-70 USD and my Sony A77II where at smaller apertures the shots exposure would be inconsistent, often underexposing, even when all values are set to manual. This occurred when electronic shutter was turned on (which it is by default). I also noticed the depth of field would be deeper, meaning the aperture was closing too much. The problem didn't happen at or near wide open, but was most noticeable between F/4 and F/11. A few others have reported similar experiences with that specific lens model. Turning off electronic shutter solved the problem for that lens. I did not have that problem with their 70-200 USD and their 90mm macro.
I'm curious if that is what you are experiencing.
"...yes, mirror up, two shutter button presses (grrr...), 2s exposure delay, then electronic front curtain."
Wouldn't live view and a corded remote shutter release be easier and better?
Blackraven: Wow. The Tamron does look good! But I will not rush out and sell my Nikon 14-24. The difference in sharpness at the edges at the less wider end is only noticeable when comparing like for like when pixel-peeping.I guess anyone would be happy to have either.For me, I would still go for the Nikon due it being an original Nikon lens (who knows what compatibility issues there may be with newer camera bodies), its smaller size, proven quality over many years (better build?) and resale value.But if money was an issue and I desperately needed such a lens, it definitely is an option.
Yeah, I'd never want to give up that wider fov...Isn't that why you buy a 'wide' lens in the first place?
riskinhos: cheaper, better, stabilized, only fanboys will buy nikon. tamron ftw. best lens of the year.
DaveE1 - riskinhos was actually commenting on the tendency of some CONSUMERS to insist on buying only marque manufactured products rather than attempting to purchase the best performing products available in the marketplace...You felt insulted by his comment, I shoot Nikon and took no offense ;)
Toccata47: I read through this with the impression there was a price gap between these two. While the tamron might be $200 less initially, it won't hold value as well and it won't have the same level of support.
Price gap...The Tamron's got VC for Gods sake! So even at the same price with similar (better?) performance there would be a VALUE GAP, normaly around $1,000.00 extra for VC.
Compatibility issues..? WTF would that even mean? It mounted to the Body - They actually shot with it and produced actual photographs with it!? Need I say more?
Gregm61: I do not even like a 28mm equivalent as my widest option, so why would I want even less? I wouldn't buy either of these lenses, but certainly not the Tamron.
The lens will mount natively to a crop sensor camera, which I suspect is what 'Gregm61' owns and shoots with. He doesn't feel this focal range would be useful for him. Problems with that?I Love the opinion that others don't get to have an opinion!So Tonio and Calvin - Not sure what else you are missing...Let me know and I'll do what I can to help!
I wonder how well they'd shoot adapted to a Sony camera...