Akpinxit: I would really like to see how 409600 ISO , full size still image looks like
I do not think that is the way to assess _still_ image quality under low light conditions. In video one can do noise reduction based on previous frames so the video shutter times do not provide fair comparison to equivalent still image shutter times. One needs to shoot still images and compare those.
There is now question the new Sony will be _awesome_ in low light. Sony leads in sensor technology, the camera has full frame sensor size and very large pixel (since low number of pixels). Sony Alpha 7s is the new Low Lght Beast(tm).
And I shoot Canon, so not a Sony fanboy here. I would be interested to buy a Sony Alpha MLC as a second camera, but I do not have the extra 2-3000€ to spend :-(
And yes, with ~10k€ in Canon camera and lenses, I am curious to see where does this camera system war end to. I think Mirrorless will win over DSLR.
Jylppy: Ah, Fanboys in the air! Since it is Nikon it _must_ be better than the independently reviewed award-winning Sigma 35mm/1.4, right? 1/1.4 aperture - who cares! Robust metal construction - plastic is lighter! ;-)
This new Nikon might well be a great lens, but we can know it only after thorough independent testing. Before that it is pretty pointless to make strong statements what this lens might or might not be. We'll see.
Ah, Fanboys in the air! Since it is Nikon it _must_ be better than the independently reviewed award-winning Sigma 35mm/1.4, right? 1/1.4 aperture - who cares! Robust metal construction - plastic is lighter! ;-)
Michael Ma: Wow, Sony a 7R leapfrogs any Canon or Nikon. Canon really needs to step up. Their days of purposely making cameras with lesser technology than their flagship is over. They need to not hold back now to stay in the business.
Sony 7R leapfrogging? Just compare it to Nikon Df at ISO 6400 and above. Yes, 7R has more pixels, but still. Df's low light perf is fantastic.
DPR folks, Pls add Canon 5DII so I (and many 5DII owners) can reference to a camera which performance they know.
Positive although very cautious move from Canon. This seems stop-gap measure at the best. I am still hopeful for a better dual-pixel AF EOS M with EVF emerging early next year.
The camera market seems to be dying from the bottom. Smartphones killed pocket cameras and entry DSLR sales / mirrorless sales are dropping. Growth is in pro / semi-pro segments, therefore the rumors of Canon looking to enter into medium-format.
Nevertheless, as 5DII owner I am looking to buy a second camera. The use case is to travel with two cameras/lenses so no need to change lenses on the road. The other camera should be smaller, i.e MILC. 100D does not cut it. So I am believer in mid-high-end MILC segment, but how well does my personal need correlate with larger market? Anyway there are plenty of interesting opportunities in MILC with new imaging technologies...
"Biological_Viewfinder, while you may be right in general, some of the lenses actually beat their Canon/Nikon equivalents (at least Sigma 35mm/1.4f). It seems Sigma and Tamron have greatly narrowed the gap to Canon/Nikon top models with their new products. I own three L-zooms, but I have been very satisfied to my Sigma purchases.
Mateo Miller: Sounds interesting but it weighs half a pound more than the Canon 24-105L 670 grams vs 885 grams (23oz vs 31oz)
Auts! Whether sealing would be a high priority for this kind of general purpose travel lens. Oh Sigma, what have you done?
I have accidentally tested my Canon 24-105/4L's whether sealing and it works. It got poured about 20 liters of water directly on camera (5DII) + lens on a river boat without any problems at all.
No, I am not gonna test my luck second time.
Karl Summers: Please DPR, make this a testing priority. A test against the Canon f/4 24-105 and the f/2.8 24-70-II, as well as the Nikon equivalents. I don't expect the build quality to compare, but if the optical quality is like their 35mm ART lens then I would love to get this piece of glass.
Well, I have Sigma 35mm/1.4f Art series and its build quality is superb. Solid construction, beautiful industrial design. I love it. It easily compares well to Canon L series lenses in build quality, but its industrial design is more stylish. Go Sigma, go!
siberstorm27: These comparisons will inevitably lead to fanboy flamewars here in the comments section, most notably from Nokia and Sony fanboys with little sense and big egos. The cameras, especially on the Nokia, have overblown claims of superiority based on fancy tech jargon. The end result is a mixed bag, and all these phones produce phone quality images regardless. You can focus on the "phone" part without fear of losing much image quality from one phone to another. The Galaxy S4 Zoom, however, stands out as having a unique 10x zoom that you can't approximate on other phones. It's also way thicker.
And this comment was written by ... Samsung fanboy? ;-D
I have used the version 3 and I am not satisfied at all.
The sync is all but reliable and tends to run problems so often so I just gave up. I re-installed the plugin and app many times without success. First it seemed to work OK, but then it start to run in to problems with sync - could not figure out which way to sync or got stuck completely to certain images.
I hope they can manage to fix the issues so my money would not be completely wasted.
Does the fact that this is bigger than Canon 100D mean that there is lower limit for usable camera size? Did Sony choose to waste space just to make the handfeel better or to save in cost? (or the both).
I have big hands and Canon 100D is too small for me. 5DII is handy size ;-)
Smart Previews sound definitely good one, but otherwise I am not in hurry to upgrade from LR 4.4.
Here is my wish-list for improvement: - Performance improvement. Quad-core 64bit Win7 with 8GB RAM seem not to be fast enough... Maybe I need to go for SSD next- Super-fast previews without/before/during import for photo selection (aka FastPictureViewer). - Focus Peaking in Library/development modules: Automatic highlight of areas that are in focus- Automatic photo ranking based on photo quality (focus/blurriness, 2. exposure) . LR could run face recognition to the images and then check whether eyes are in focus- Noise reduction can still be improved- Auto level options could have some AI added. Auto Level constantly fails on certain type of images. The tool could learn from users settings and adapt its behavior. - Better / easier sync/merge between catalogs to facilitate Desktop/laptop catalog sharing and editing on multiple computers.
greggerca: I've used Capture One Pro for many years, and Lr at times.On the part about "import speed" and then reviewing pictures - basically I see the same issue on all these packages. So I get around that by adding an extra workflow step before C1 / Lr that saves hundreds of hours a year.
On a PC, I use a program called "FastPictureViewer". It has extremely fast RAW CODEC's that can let you flip through and rate RAW pictures as though they were JPEGs (at that speed!). If you shoot both RAW+JPEG, it combines the files, so IPTC operations, ratings etc. work on both. XMP files are compatible with Capture One and Lightroom.
It does have a learning curve... but it is worth it. The CODECs make all of Windows work better.
I don't know what you can do on a Mac. But it even works on a tiny netbook. You can batch rename, cull, and then let Capture One / Lightroom process only "good" files.
It saved me a lot of time.
I have also adopted FastPictureViewer as a photo selection tool in my workflow (in Windows). After selecting photos with FPV, I import photos to Lightroom. FPV provides lightning-fast RAW browsing and instant 1:1 zooming. FPV is stable and fast. Money well spent.
Adobe should buy the technology and integrate it into LR workflow.
Jylppy: What a great opening from Canon! I would say. As with any MILC, one will buy not jus a camera, but into a SYSTEM - including lenses, accessories, future upgrade options. On strategic level Canon played smart here:1) APS-C sensor gives them upper hand over 4/3rds in image quality - always.2) APS-C sensor and the EF-M mount gives compatibility of huge Canon lens portfolio. There are many Canon DSLR owners out there, and while using EF/EF-S lenses in EF-M is not optimal in sizewise, it is possible.3) compatibility with huge selection of Canon DSLR accessories
The first product is really nice also:4) Fantastic, clean design, without gimmickry. Yes, I think the retro look of Olympus E-M5 is nice, but Canon's clean design language will appeal to broader audience. I and my wife love it.5) Touch-screen for ease for ease of use - let's see how photography enthusiastics like it.
Lack of EVF is a gap, but there is nothing preventing Canon to implement it in its next prosumer model.
What Canon needs to do next is to:1) Ramp-up lens portfolio and FAST2) bring higher-end model with EVF3) Not to care about internal cannibalisation - let consumers choose
Now I need to choose shall I wait for ahigher specsed Canon M or buy Olympus E-M5 now...
What a great opening from Canon! I would say. As with any MILC, one will buy not jus a camera, but into a SYSTEM - including lenses, accessories, future upgrade options. On strategic level Canon played smart here:1) APS-C sensor gives them upper hand over 4/3rds in image quality - always.2) APS-C sensor and the EF-M mount gives compatibility of huge Canon lens portfolio. There are many Canon DSLR owners out there, and while using EF/EF-S lenses in EF-M is not optimal in sizewise, it is possible.3) compatibility with huge selection of Canon DSLR accessories
iPhoto for iOS is a handy tool to share quick edits of DSLR photos taken on a road. Having said that the lates version (1.01) has some annoying limitations including lack of custom white balance setting or inability to see all your Facebook photo albums when sharing. But pretty handy tool still.