Miron09: Leica owners I happened to know since the Seventies had many technical grievances, like wrongly adjusted meters, shoddy craftsmanship, etc. Leica never recovered from the Leica M5 mishap. The lenses sometimes offer exceptional quality, but the bodies were put together with second rate parts, in Portugal, Malaysia, etc.
no, but i've saw and read some news and enterviews (some with the Leica Portugal CEO), where they said that Leica totally depends on the Portuguese facturies (last year they opened a new one), they even send portuguese workers/technicians to germany so they can teach them... all the mechanical parts of a M9 are made and assembled in Portugal
nop, around 90% of a Leica M is made in Portugal, they have a factory in Famalicão city since 1973... the final assembly is made in germany
GoneMirrorless: IBIS reality check.The 3 DSLR companies that offer IBIS are Pentax, Olympus, Sony/Minolta.The 2 DSLR companies that do not are Canon and Nikon.
While I think it is a nice feature, it sure seems to have jinxed DSLR sales. Sony and Olympus no longer make DSLRs!
history lesson: why Canon and Nikon dont have IBIS?
they started sabilizing lenses in the FILM days, so stabilizing in the lenses was the only way possible, with digital revolution that limitation was over and companies that didnt have a bunch of legacy tecnology from the film era started to try other aproaches (like the Minolta with th Dynax 7D)
in a future, not very far away, Nikon and Canon will also stop making DSLR
bgbs: This camera is going to drive yet another nail in the Canon's coffin.
does numbers are not bad for Sony, not many years ago they had less then 1% of market share!
and do you remember Kodak?
HMeYe: $2499 for an f4 mid range zoom !?!?!?! this is crazy ... better stick to my Leica M9 system !
this is a video lens, do you prefer your leica system for video??? ahahah
Dazzer8888: Damn, that's a nice lens for the A7
its a video dedicated lens
ET2: WHere is FS7 announcement? That's E-Mount camera
hands on: http://vimeo.com/105937275
nikon power: IMO, most credit and praise to Sony should go to Carl Zeiss and his lens.
like most of Nikon's credits should go to sony sensors, what would be a D800 without sony?
1drey: Uh, and after release of new model based on this sensor Sony will produce a couple of lenses... in a year or so. And a couple more - during the next three years.
more then the older EOS-M has
Max Savin: Sigma f1.4 for Nikon: 23.46 oz (1.466 pounds)
A7r camera: 14.36 oz35mm Sony FE f2.8: 4.23 oz.
Backpacking 20-30 miles on rough trails and overland. Which would you carry?
ok, you can carry weight, but you'll travel slower, make shorter distances, and it will be harder to walk/climb on difficult terrain!
and every mile you make the heavier it feels, and more energy you'll spend and more water youll have to carry...
weight always matter, unless you photograph at home!
AmirhosainD90: As you can see, it's obvious that all of these shots are extremely manipulated. So this is CG challenge, not photography challenge!I'm hero, if I could take a super shot by proper selection of subject, frame, exposure, speed, Angle, ... right on the scene and submit my shot SOOC. Everyone can sit behind his laptop and render an artificial design better than these by "3D Max", "Photoshop", "Corel", ... even without a camera.At last, photographers should separate their ways from graphistes!
by your standards Ansel Adams didn't make photography either right? he was the king of "Photoshop" of its time, but that doesn't make him less photographer, does it?
Gregm61: All THREE lenses of the system. Wow.....what a "committment" ;)
Sony A7r also disagree with you ;)
srados: "Adobe", what a person should do if his/hers computer IS NOT 24/7 connected to internet?I have my workhorse AWAY from viruses and other garbage. Keeping me disconnected saves me money in antivirus software...By the way I am boycotting subscription based software.Still happy with my CS 5...and yes when I can not install it on my new version of operating system software I will look up Corell line of products.
virus?? just stay away from porn sites, illegal downloads, suspicious sites, don't click on every link that you get in a email, and keep your software updated.
there's plenty of good free anti-virus, you even have "microsoft security essencials", that do a very good job
so get out of the 90's, there's no reason for you to keep the internet off
liquid stereo: Deck chairs on the titanic...
Oly/Pana/Fuji/Sony: Here are different/better offerings — ergo, sensor size, solution size, high ISO performance, etc. — at a lower price.
Nikon: Here's one of our cams — same features, in an angled body — for the same (high) price.
Canon: What's all this then?
"Sony? Those guys who failed to make anything wider than 18mm (27mm FF) for their NEX-system for years."
are you ignorante or just trying to look like one?
Sony has lenses wider then 18mm since they released the first NEX... 16mm 2.8, and they have a very good 10-18mm f4 also, that also looks to be wider than 18mm... oh the ignorance...
looks like a Sony A850 reborn...
retro lookfull frame SLRSame 24mpx sensor of the Nikon D3Xdont have vídeorelease price in 2009: under $2000...
Martos164: Congratulations to Sony on this bold move with the A7 &A7r. Its a mile stone in digital technology. I"m impressed . It looks retro,with features you saw in old film cameras from yester year. Also it looks like it has all the features from Canon & Nikon full frame cameras,except its in a little package. Some people might quip,and whinge about its looks. I couldn't care less what they think. If the cameras can do,as what Sony says they can do ,then i want one.The cameras,look as if they have been designed by someone,who like simple,robust,tough,well designed features in a camera.
Give it time,and i think Sony will rule. Sony must've spent a small fortune on R&D. I hope people,will take to these cameras,like ducks to water. If they do,the prices will drop. Sony can see the future in digital technology,and its heading in the right direction.
My only beef is the lens price. If Sony,can reduce the lens prices, to match the other camera,giants,then they will win the camera war
i think you're a little bit confused, NEX mount is not dead, their mount (E-mount) lives on, NEX is just a camera model, but A7, A7r, Nex-7, Nex-6, Nex-5r, Nex-3N, VG900, FS700... etc... they all use E-mount, but some have a bigger sensor, just like Nikons DX and FX
Sad Joe: Bring it on ! I still have my FM from 1979...and whilst your at it how about a FF rangefinder camera ? Oh sorry Sony already have one.....
it´s not propaganda, its a clarification, it seems that there is alot of confused people out there...
and you have to do your math again... do you know how many lenses released Sony in 2012/13? hint: more then Canon and Nikon ;)
and by the way, Nikon has another mount you forgot, you cant forget to split the CX mount in 2, CX and CX-AW, cause you only have a waterproof body if you have waterproof lenses.
and just to finish, i'm not doing blind propaganda, Sony has released a great line of mirroless APS-C cameras and lenses, and now it steped up and made it full frame to, it made the smallest/cheapest/lightest fullframe camera ever, with excellent Zeiss optics, and thas a good thing in my book ;), just dont know why it bothers you!
3 diferent mounts? afaik Sony has 2 mounts, A-mount and E-mount, and each of them has 2 formats, APS-C and Full Frame
the same goes with any other brand, Canon and Nikon also have 2 mounts, one for SLR and other for mirrorless, the BIG diference is that Sony has a FF mirrorless and canikon dont ;)
and yes, there arent very lenses available, but the FF mirrorless system is one week old, so its not that bad, in 2014 there will be 10 lenses available. Can you tell me how many lenses have the EOS-M and CX mounts?
Yxa: Sony has gone the Olympus wayOlympus dumped the 4/3 for the m4/3To cater for the 4/3 lenses they introduced an adapter to mount the 4/3 lenses on m4/3 cameras=A-mount to E-mountI'm glad I didn't choose the 4/3 or the A-mountI have a Nikon FF that have backwards compatibility of lenses to at least 1972
@ Henry M. Hertz, it does to me, i travel alot and do alot of hiking, so a camera that weight alot less then a tipical FF SLR is a gem!! i shoot alot of landscapes and i cant see any advantage of an SLR over this camera in this tipe of photography!
yabokkie: Sony E20/2.8 is equivalent to about 31mm f/4.3 on 35mm format. Sony E24/1.8 is about 37mm f/2.8, Canon M22/2 is about 35mm f/3.2, and Pana G20/1.7 is about 39mm f/3.3.
compared to the last three, E20/2.8 is wider and darker. all these lenses are very easy and very cheap to make, and I think they are all quite handy to use, even for indoor if you don't mind IQ.
what image? have you seen any?
i judje the IQ by looking at photos, not some numbers on the lens barrel and made up equivalencies.