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CheddarMonkey: Not sure I understand why the images seem so noisy. I was hoping this camera would get better image quality than the d7200 but I'm not sure that seems to be the case.
Every new camera launched, mostly they still in "imperfect" condition, such as prototype unit, demo unit or as we know, Fuji always fix the problem with new firmware. I assumed that they borrowed the unit like this. I think, their marketing not considered about this more deeply and this is the lesson for big brand because the "image" of first impression can lift up brand image, or in other size, drowned the brand image. Marketing team Fuji have to learn about this.
The Name is Bond: Until they fix the over-smoothed high ISO jppegs, I'm sadly going to have to give their new cameras a miss.
Jpeg people shooters, especially for events, indoor children pics etc, are affected by this.
I don't know what Fuji will do with this X-Pro2, but if it happened, then it might not be suit for you my friend. :) Or just shoot with NR positioned in "-1" or using RAW-Fine. :)
NicoPPC: Nice body. But isn't it a bit overpriced in comparaison the EOS M3 (550/600€) or Canon EOS 6D (1350€)??
Ha? M3 ? 6D? You kidding me? lol
vesa1tahti: Viewfinder position not ideal for right eye shooters. Compromise: ought to be in the middle.
have you try X-Pro1? or X100 series?
Boss of Sony: Fuji's latest offerings seem a bit same-old and late to the party compared to the latest announcements by Sony and Panasonic. X70 is a Ricoh GR with knobs. 24mp Fuji x-pro is 3 years later than sony's first 24mp aps-c. The latest Sony and Panasonic offerings have ibis, 4k, full-frame, and never been done before things like pocketable 1 inch sensor with 10x zoom, etc. (and still includes an EVF).
I have your point Don. 16Mp but can printed to 1.8m in Jpeg only? I tried by myself with X100s. Print an ISO2000 photo with 2m height and 2.5m width, print on Photo Paper using old Lambda Machine. I shocked by myself how can it be ? 16Mp ? Jpeg ?
Now with 23 Mp? But, i still thinking to purchase X-Pro2 due the price and needs. But in the future, i really want to trade my X-E2 and X-T1 with this X-Pro2 and became side by side with my X-T10.
EricAotearoa: Lovely looking camera, especially with the incorporation of the film speed in the shutter speed dial. Been waiting for this for many years. It's another reduction of the overly complicated computerised digital buttons and menu's of modern cameras. You are certainly heading in the right direction Fuji. I wonder if they can make a much less expensive camera by reducing substantially the menu's and associated functions. In other words, make it more a photographic tool, as opposed to the current trend of overly computerised picture takers. My EM5 has sucked all the fun out of taking photo's.
And Leica has no experience to make film as good as Fujifilm. They had great lenses, yes !! And Fujifilm learns for that. But, time still moves forward. Almost all film makers die, only Fujifilm can survive due to innovation that most people like the tone, even using Minolta, Nikon, Canon, Yashica, Leica etc in film era. Now they transformed to new era of digital, they learn how to make good camera (means can capture image near perfectly ~ like film era). Since then, they increase their R&D, stop FinePix S-Pro series to create something new. Not only color, lenses also, and in lightweight, then functionaly.
Yes, Leica success to create their brand become "collector item", like Marshall (in Audio system). And this is it. Now time prof that. I don't know about you guys, but Fujifilm now success to create their brand based on their past experience and now their performance.
Marksphoto: I don't get it, why do I see in comments that this camera is an upgrade? This camera is a downgrade, I got a tilting screen on my xt10 and the photos don't look any better in the sample gallery. If I had purchased the x pro2 I would be DOWNGRADING.
Fuji is not going to sell many of these precicely because no touch screen, it's a poor marketing decision they have made period. Hope they don't make this error in their xt2 this summer or they will be in the hole. and if in the summer when I see the xpro2 on ebay for $600... even then I will not be interested.
Last time i use XPro1 was more than 1 year ago. And usage of Tilt Screen, only when i travelling or make some simple documentation. With X-Pro1, quietly difficult to use for travelling. And when i purchased X-T10, and very easy to use, suddenly i realized that every camera have their own segment. X-Pro2 i think was not for travelling due to size and "complicated" analogue dial, than X-T10. It will be used for pro that someone who concerned for Image Quality not for someone who use the additional feature or just shoot and fun with camera. Someone who concerned about how to make good exposure BEFORE shoot. Someone who has image in their mind "This image i want to take", not "ah, luckily i got great photo".
That is my own opinion.
colesf: The previous model had very poor parallax correction, making the 90 very impractical to use. It's hard to figure, especially as other companies like Leica and Mamiya have made these viewfinders for decades. If you have to switch to the horrid EVF just to have accurate framing, then all you have is an overly complex but underperforming camera specifically created, like Nikon's overpriced DF, to market to baby boomer nostalgiia.
it depends to the person who use that. Some people still like RangeFinder style that always tricky for framing (and they somehow, make it correct by their brain), but for another people (born in digital area or always use SLR's OVF, really like Electronic View Finder and doesn't like OVF rangefinder style.
Raphot: I think it's tedious and futile to compare the X-pro2 to other mirrorless cameras and slate it because of its lower specs. I think it's basically a cutting-edge digital camera in a sturdy analogue body with an amazing amount of direct control,. As such it won't be suited for all purposes. For example, it won't be suited at all for sports photography despite its fast fps. But once you slow down and think about every shot, you'll start taking better pictures. At least that's what happened with me, I have an XT-1 and for me its the best camera I ever owned. I've been increasingly using it with vintage Leica R lenses and it's been an absolute joy.
@ TheDreamingWatchman I think his point is he doesn't really need that Wi Fi feature.
Anyway, unstable WiFi ? I use X-T1 side by side with X-T10, and it works fine. Anyway, i use Android phone and Tab. Stable.
Andy Galeati: way, way too much retro... I appreciate the theme, but when it hurts the functionality of video, I just tend to stray. But Im sure the colors and tones for stills will be amazing.
I agreed. some camera now have video, but only some that good in video. I think Fujifilm very concerned for Digital Photography to likely film photography, and only add video for added value.
yes.. It happened everyday? all of your family did that? in motorcycle gatherings, do you do almost everyday? every week? how many times? and how many people take human face in high iso ?
In other group, i just like you bro / sis, but a man talk to me like that. Suddenly i realized, in 1,000 photos, only 50s i shoot faces in high iso. And mostly for documentary purpose, so the important still can be recognized who is that, where is that.
Old Cameras: This seems a little redundant, a remix of existing hardware with nothing new except software features. And it's still relatively expensive. And who was asking for a smaller camera? Fuji has an excellent range of lenses, what about a bigger camera with a huge screen and viewfinder, a 1000 shot battery and plenty of room for controls and a large grip to compete with the best APS-C cameras whether they are mirrorless or DSLR? And a new sensor...
Don't want to use bigger cam. Already enough for big and huge camera at all. Tired to bring and bulky. Like Fuji for simplicity and portability. Huge camera? if they make bigger than FF, I considered to buy one.. Same size with other FF ? Better save money in bank or invest in lenses.
Question is how many time do you want taking human face in high iso? For me, only around 10 photos from hundred or thousand photos when job or in travelling / vacation. And it's worth i think.
already used this camera for months. So far, no complain at all. Great handling, lighter than X-T1. Very easy to use because has Auto lever near Shutter Speed Dial.
The most important, cheaper but same quality with X-T1. Bought with body only (have XF18-55 from X-T1). Will use this for daily use and backup camera side by side with my X-T1 for my job.
last time i used this bag to carry 2 XT1, 1 50-140, 2 56APD, 35mm, 14mm, 18-55mm, ipad, 4 phottix trigger, 8 battery, 1 flash gun Di62242, 1 square omni diffuser, sirui tripodand still have extra to keep my snack inside and a mineral water at outside :p
Anastigmat: That is long overdue. Manufacturers have been profiteering from artificially high prices on FF DSLR cameras, refusing to lower the prices even though the sensors do not cost all that much to make. The old excuse made about 10-12 years ago was the FF sensors were prohibitively expensive. Sony has in fact successfully made even larger medium format CMOS sensors so economically that most manufacturers have switched to them. It takes a slump in the DSLR camera business for manufacturers to finally reduce prices on FF models, but only at the low end, and we are given plastic bodied low end FF models as punishment for not spending more money on more expensive FF models. FF cameras need to come way down in price, and APS-C cameras should be phased out completely. There is no reason for APS-C models since most DSLR cameras are large enough to accommodate FF sensors.
Back to a question, what do you expect from FF if nowadays APSC size can fit almost all of your requirement? Including for pros?
Buying FF isnt that simple, due to bigger and bigger size. Compare to real FF (Film analog), the size isnt that bigger than today's FF. Bringing 80-200 in analog, now looks like bring bazooka. Not only body, but all the system.
And for me, its looks like dejavu with Sony when they shift from Alpha system to NEX and back to Alpha again. Playing with their existing user. This is the reason why i quit from Sony's gear.
the Photomaker: I’m disappointed at the X 30 and loss of the retro looking optical finder I use on my x10 in bright light. Also, the X30 size difference from the X10/X20 means I can’t use my $140 Really Right Stuff quick release which helps balance. Being a Leica user, I fell in love with the X10 as a travel camera. The images are ok, except in contrasty situations, so I was upgrading to the X20, but, waited for the X30 to be released, and sorry I did. The only X30 feature I need is the tilting LCD for low angle shots. I was also hoping the X30 had a wider lens, which Lumix offers. I shoot tight spaces and need a 24mm lens, but 21mm would be ideal. Too many people want super-tele lenses, and don’t understand the need for super-wide lenses or how to use them.I bought an Xpro-1 for fine-art work. After seeing the quality images from this camera, I am replacing my Nikons and use my X Pro-1.Now, still needing a quality small camera, I’ll just pick up a discontinued X20 and wait for the X40.
Or just playing with DR range, other wise using Highlight / Shadow range.
mpgxsvcd: If it has a smaller sensor with better performance are you still going to complain about the sensor size? The difference in depth of field going from a 2/3” sensor to a 1” inch sensor is not significant when you factor in the fact that the lens would have to be slower to be the same size.
If Fuji can produce high quality images with a smaller sensor then I am all for it. In the past they have had smaller sensors that do exactly that. I hope that is the case with this camera.
better try first. This 2/3" vs 1" :D Not try, no need to say anything
WACONimages: Dear DPreview, It would be really welcome if the max flash sync is given.... I miss that in a lot of camera specifications lists.
Otherwise a nice camera(design), wish it got a new lens starting at 24mm.
I tried with my own X10 and my friend X20, flash sync when on shoe can reach maximum speed using cheap model of Flash (YongNuo), Nissin Di622 mkII, and Canon 430EX. All manual. I don't know if using Fujifilm flash and some people said becareful when using Nikon SB900. Some people said it can be used, some people said it cannot be used.
With wireless trigger (using PT-04), it reduce become 1/500 i can try.
LuBOSS: Here's why I'll never buy X30:I was one of the first owners of X10, I won it in a photo competition (€569 saved).My experience went frome excitement to quite a big disappointment. My main complaints are that despite good overall photo quality, faces are unnaturally skewed towards edges of the picture, supermacro has really very small DOF, difference between dynamic range 100% and 400% is almost none, I never managed to shot 360° cylinder-view panorama even under perfect conditions, and modes such as soft skin or pro focus (bokeh) have very apparent signs of post-processing.Anyway, not to mention the rubber grip that fell off, two main issues are a lot of dust in the lens despite using lens cap + case, and after 2 and 3/4 years the lens got broken - the zoom ring is cracking between 50-85mm and the picture on the lcd is 'jumping'. Turning the camera off is too hard. And the IS seems to be gone.Est. repair cost €260.So I'm not going to risk €550+ for new camera with the same lens :(
I had X10 also (bought since 2011) and use almost everyday to take many documentation photo for job until now instead of using my X-E2 and X-M1. I've been replace my lens due orbs phenomena because my X10 is first generation production.
For dust, okay i had the same thing. Its the problem but almost no affect to my photo quality. But for lens broken ? Never feel the same like you. How do you use it ?