Just a Photographer: Hope Adobe takes a good look at how Alien Skin here does away with the library and allowing users to work on a NAS.
That's correct Howard and John - Its no problem as long as you are NOT working cross platform.
However as soon as you do work cross platform (Mac and Windows), within the same network then the links to the files do not match because of the way they referenced in the library.
Try it yourself and you will see that it breaks if you will use the same library on a Windows PC.
So for your information the day you will go back from Mac to Windows or vice versa, you will have some work to do. ;)
This video shows a much better overview of what Exposure X actually does and can do for you. It can also function as a plugin to LR or PS.
GRUBERND: sigh. sidecar files in subfolders. extra scripting imminent. while better than a catalog blob, this makes a lot automatable tasks harder than neccessary.
I'd rather have sidecar files then a corrupted database.
I've already twice had to deal with a LR database corruption issue. And its beyond me why Adobe has unchecked the option to write sidecars by default.
That option turned on by default would have saved me a lot of work. Now with each new version its the one thing I do first. Checkmarking the option to write sidecars next to my files.
h2k: Is that a news-worthy item at this stage?
YES! - As more and more software companies are rolling out subscription based services. Adobe was first in this area, but now even Capture One is experimenting with this and soon we have to pay for each and every software we use a 10 dollars a month user fee.
Not only this Alien Skin editor is buy a once use for as long as you whish based. It also is one of the biggest providers for plugins to LR and Photoshop.
Hope Adobe takes a good look at how Alien Skin here does away with the library and allowing users to work on a NAS.
supeyugin1: I think that Samsung don't understand what they are doing. It's not a TV or a cell phone where you can easily change brands. It's a system where people invested thousands inlenses, and now they need to throw everything away? Samsung is completely nuts!
Don't let yourself be surprised. ;)
Your source was just talking about the Galaxy S7 en Galaxy S7 Edge. Which will get a 16MP Britecell-camera.
No more NX is what countrymanagers here in Europe tell to the public now.Your 'one' source is fooling with you. And its only you who still seem to believe that fairies still exist.
Peiasdf: Don't worry, Samsung's astroturfing marketing team will be here shortly to spin this into a good thing. Read the comments from a week ago and they all deny this decision.
Except that this 'news' is already confirmed by many more Samsung country managers within Europe....
Its now 'Germany, France, Spain, The Netherlands (BeNeLux), Norway, Tjech Republic'.
I don't think the astroturfing Marketing team will spin this to a good end anymore.
Donnie G: Canon produced 80 million "old school", solidly built, fast handling, dependable, mostly mirror flipping EOS ILC workhorses that sell, while Samsung produced a couple of thousand "new school" mirrorless NX ILC toys that they couldn't even give away. Now folks want to act as if they're surprised that Samsung is abandoning their camera business to return to what they're good at, which is making TVs, smartphones and anything else except interchangeable lens cameras. C'mon now, you mean you really didn't see that one coming? :))
I feel sorry for those people that traded in their old camera.
Now they are stuck with unsupported junk, while they could have enjoyed their old camera or even expanded their old system with a new lens, then to buy a new camera'.
Wildpicture: Samsung Netherlands today stated that consumers shouldn't be afraid that service on cameras would be cancelled. However when I last week reported a software bug in the firmware of a camera (found in multiple samples of that camera) bought a few weeks ago, they refused to tell me whether there would be a firmware update. They also refused to tell whether the problem would be picked up by anyone at all. They just said; "Keep an eye on our website to see if there is any new firmware".
I mailed the Customer Service with a complaint a week ago and so far they never even bothered to reply. That is not promising for customers who just spent their money on a Samsung product.
That is NOT exactly what they said:
"Volgens Samsung Nederland kunnen mensen die nu een camera kopen ook na het stoppen van de verkoop bij Samsung Nederland terecht voor het afhandelen van eventuele problemen BINNEN de garantieperiode."
Samsung only confirms that customers will receive support WITHIN their warranty period.
So in two years time you'll get to hear 'Sorry NO to support'.
They also said 'No more new cameras'"Ook zullen er geen nieuwe modellen meer geïntroduceerd worden"
Mike FL: The good news is that Samsung does not have to shut down in Asian market as Samsung was never able to get into there while Leica is doing better and better day by day over there.
Now it seems that Samsung only has to take good care of USA market. Have not seem Samsung "Ditch DSLR" for a while. It is not a bad ideal if they can keep "Ditch DSLR" on weekly base to let people know Samsung is not dying.
Europe is the biggest camera market in this world. Would be kind of odd if they will not be closing down in the US as well.
I wouldn't have much faith in Samsung holding on to the US market only. I'll guess its only a matter of time before Samsung will confirm a worldwide withdrawal from the camera market unless Apple announces their entry.
I sincerely hope for you that they will keep on selling cameras
However I think your 'sources' should not be trusted too much or I would not hold much faith about them.
Especially considering the fact that two weeks ago Samsung was still in denial about shutting down their business despite all the rumors.
Don't forget that the adaption rate of MILC in Europe is much bigger then it is in the US. The US still seem to like BIG over smaller and lighter.
Its just a matter of time before they'll let us know that this is a worldwide withdrawal from the camera industry.
Donnie G: I guess the big 2 camera makers really do know the camera business better than the gadget makers after all. One down, two to go. Happy Holidays!
What has a sensor got to do with a mirror slapping up and down? Its old aged technology. That ain't necessary anymore. A sensor can be used in all systems. Wether it be a DSLR or a MILC system.
And electronic shutters are a common thing in most MILC cameras already, That is no innovation either.
Marty4650: While they are very popular on this particular website, MILC cameras are really a very small part of an overall declining camera market. And there were ten different manufacturers in this small market, with five of them making MILC cameras with APSC sensors (Canon, Fuji, Leica, Sony, and Samsung.)
Something had to give. The market just isn't large enough to sustain so many competitors who make very similar products.
The much larger DSLR market has only two competitors now (three if you count the yet to arrive Pentax FF DSLR) so it is hard to imagine how the market could sustain five companies selling APSC based MILC cameras with 3X zoom kit lenses.
And so.... the market shakeout begins....
They used to ship 10 to 1 back in 2010.
That shows how the market has changes.
technotic: The bigger story here is is this the beginning of the implosion of the photography industry in general? Samsung are a highly profitable company from what I know and could easily sustain some losses in the camera division if they saw a future in this business. Is this sign of things to come?
No they don't NorthWestF.
Sony Digital Imaging is a sole consumer oriented division.
Sony has their own broadcast and Business to Business division.
I know because I used to work very closely with them ;)
email@example.com: Samsung seems to have made this business decision in a hurry.
Not really. First rumors started to appear back in July.
Gesture: What about the rest of the NX line?
Also EOL. Samsung said they are gradually stepping out of the market according to the official statement made in fotoMAGAZIN.
tonyreidsma: My biggest fear with the NX1 is support, not resell. I want to make sure if something goes wrong that I can send it in for repair. I'm in the USA, so perhaps I can pretend nothing has changed....
Its easier to repair a 40 year old camera, then it is to repair a circuit board or even worse a chip that isn't being produced anymore.
I'll bet in 40 years they still can repair that camera back from the 70's, but they can't repair you current DSLR.
Yes the market is declining.However by looking at the CIPA figures, the DSLR segment is in much more of a decline then the MILC segment. As a matter of fact especially the DSLR segment is plunging for another year.
Yes they easily could.
But stockholders do not like red figures and to sustain in this business costs a lot of money. Fujifilm is vulnarable as well by looking at their marketshare.
However they have more of a commitment and probably do not want to end as Kodak Eastman. That is probably why they will keep investing into this market.
And even though Sony is selling millions of sensors, they have already said that their Digital Imaging division needs to be more profitable.
They also said they want to become more of a components manufacturer and entertainment company.
Its still a possibility that they will sell off their digital imaging division by the end of 2016. Just as they did with the rest of their consumer products.
You'll then get into a sort of the same scenario that Philips did 10 years ago. Sell off the division to some Chinese manufacturer that would then like to produce Sony branded cameras.
Just a Photographer: This was to expected.
Even though I was told to be a 'troll' when I mentioned this last week.
I am sorry for you to have brought you the bad news before DPReview brought it to you. Don't call somebody a troll for being a messenger of bad news.
As a matter of fact, I feel sad as competition is a good thing and Samsung did offer a nice camera with their NX series.
It just came too late and had only little support.The camera market has matured, and by looking at the CIPA figures camera sales are back to what they were by the end of the 1980's beginning 90's. This shows how badly the camera market is being hurt by the rise of the smartphone.