mike kobal: ah, Leica is still twitching - not dead yet - lets wait and see if they can get it off the ground and running this time. I am sinking...vielleicht.
Twitching? Last I heard they were turning a healthy profit. Has that changed?
Peiasdf: Wow, at $6000, that's a great deal. Shut up and take my money.
Doesn't matter what Leica make. It is going to be 40% over priced.
You've been seriously duped if you don't realize that Leica prices their product at a premium because of their name. Their rebadged Panasonic cameras are a perfect example.
I'm not saying Leica doesn't make quality products, they most definitely do but common sense should tell you that you aren't quite getting all of your money's worth.
Again, look at rebadged Panasonic cameras.
JakeB: Little reason not to save a lot of money and buy into the Fuji X system instead.
I've seen photographers drooling over the Leica M and when I tell them it doesn't have an autofocusing system they look flabbergasted.
The Leica name carries a lot of weight. Why else would people pay so much more money for their rebadged Panasonic cameras?
Vadimka: It must be the following two options.
1. FF, fixes lens, (like RX1) but with 28mm Elmarit, new Epson EVF. $3500
2. FF, Leica-M mount, no RF, with built-in new Epson EVF, body slightly thinner and slightly shorter than M9, more in line with M6. - $5000 (my dream camera!!!) They could also opt for add on EVF and smaller body, (EP5 did) but I'd rather hope they don't.
I don't think they will go for interchangeable m4/3 or APSC format, they can barely keep up with the demand of their M-lenses, they can't handle another lens line.
1. If this is a full frame fixed focal length camera, the EVF will definitely be an accessory. A 28mm lens on a full frame would be unlikely though. The two go to lenses for most photographers is 35mm and 50mm.
2. A full frame Leica without the expensive rangefinder mechanism makes some sense but how will you focus manual focusing lenses? Focus peaking?
I thought the rangefinder focusing mechanism was 70% of the reason people bought Leica M's?
A rebadged m43rds camera makes more sense, probably a rebadged version of the upcoming Panasonic GX2.
You say Leica can barely keep up production for their M line so it would make even less sense for Leica to come up with an entire new mount, with m43rds they can just sell their body and people will buy it because it says "Leica".
Why is everyone assuming this is going to work with iOS or even Android?
You can't use either of these for most serious work.
This has to be something that is going to work with eith windows or Mac.
The question is whether they are going to release a full blown PC or something that will work remotely like the Lenovo tablet that was announced a while back which is basically a screen with a digitizer that uses your desktop for computing power.
I heard part of the issue with ACR was that pushing a file would cause the water color affect to appear.
Has this issue also been resolved with the new release?
I was hoping DPReview would show how ACR and Capture One handle files when they are being pushed.
Bobby0: Blank for me too in Firefox, IE8 and Chrome.
Firefox 12.0 doesn't work. Internet Explorer 9 works though.
Photozopia: OMD just caters for those who like over-sharpened 'cartoon' like images. Fine - if that's what you like. Any number of Fuji user examples on sites all over the 'net proving it is the most 'film-like' camera out there when used correctly .... i.e. in real life situations.
The Olympus mushes fine detail out, in favour of over-sharpened results, which (superficially) look quite impressive. Unless you have a similar copy of Adobe RAW then YOU don't know what the Fuji is really capable of anyway. This is an announcement, not a comparative, viewable test of RAW output ....
Pros aren't buying the XPro or X100 for fun - or because it's AF doesn't work, or it's flimsy, or any of the stupid reasons Oly fans seem to need in order to justify their own camera purchase. Buying it for results.
Fuji and Nex buyers seem quite happy with their respective buys ... always seems to be an OMD fan-boy trying to spoil the fun!
If you don't like the Fuji (or Nex, or Canon) - don't buy it. Simple as ....
Seems to me that you're the one that feels the need to defend the X-Pro1. The Fujifilm forums on this site are the WORST.
People there are so hyper sensitive and insecure that anytime a legitimate issue with the camera is brought up the Fujifilm fanboys bring out their torches and pitch forks to burn the "witches" at the stake.
whtchocla7e: I would probably pay $700-$800 for each of these cams.Any higher and I'd be less excited.
The X100 has a hybrid OVF and a F2.0 lens though. Build quality is probably a lot better on the X100 too.
Pricing these above an X100 means they won't sell many of them.
Sigma products tend to drop in price a lot. I can see myself picking up one of these in a year or two after there have been some significant price drops.
cwmartin: If Sigma has any real hope of selling large quantities of this camera, then they will have to offer it in a Nikon and Canon lens mount version. People have large investments in their lens systems, either Nikon or Canon. Sigma should leverage those bases by doing what they do with their lenses, make the camera available to be compatible with the two largest lens bases. Only then will the camera be given a hard look by people with other camera systems.
That's a very novel idea. I bet lots of people would be willing to buy this as a "second" body to compliment their existing Canikon.
Sigma would lose any chance they had at becoming a major player though. And they would lose some lens sales to anyone who would have bought a sigma mount.
Still the economy of scale would probably be better for them in the long run and they probably don't have any real chance of becoming a major player anyways.
Do it Sigma!
jj74e: I honestly don't get the point of so called contactless charging. It's not contactless if you need to put it on the pad? Unless I misunderstood something there. I mean it's like, sure, the wire's gone, but now you have this pad you have to put somewhere and I'm assuming you still have to plug in something somewhere to power the pad, so you're not saving outlet space either.
I have a palm pre with the inductive charging base and its a small convenience of not having to plug it in but simply having to set it down. It's nice but not a huge big deal. Recently it stopped working and I miss it a bit but only a little bit.
WT21: The response is not that relevant. We all have expenses, and my employer doesn't care how much my shoes cost or that I commute.
The relevant facts are these: $50K a year in income, 20 weddings at 35 hours labor per wedding (10 hours shooting, 25 hours editing) = 700 hours. 50K divided by 700 hours = $71.42 per hour. That's a fairly low labor rate for a professional anything. Try to hire a lawyer or mechanic for $71 per hour. THEN you can factor in the direct expenses (like depreciation of equipment, 2nd photog, insurance, etc.) and it collapses pretty quickly.
The math still points to the photog not making much, and the numbers are very helpful, but the cost of their apartment and shoes is irrelevant, a red herring and confusing.
Probably isn't easy to make it as a photographer but 50k in 4 months is pretty damn good.
Filling in the rest of 8 months with more work is probably what really hurts.
The math for this article is "whack" though.
Is there a schedule for when to expect the full review?
I currently use an XZ-1 with the VF2 and I like the combination and quality but a bright "BUILT IN" OVF is very tempting, the styling doesn't hurt either. A smooth manual zoom sounds fantastic but the quality of the OVF is what will make or break this purchase for me.