ambercool: Why is everyone expecting so much from their cameras? If you want the perfect camera, just wait 10-12 more years and the curve will be much closer than we are now. I still have my first 5MP DSLR, and I was so excited when I got that. So every camera I've gotten after that is much appreciated.
@ambercool The NR and stepping apply to enough images to be worrisome and the overall sense of disappointment in these samples is palpable. No matter how you slice it, if early images from a highly anticipated camera do not at least equal a 5 year old GF2 or even smaller sensor cameras like the RX100, Nikon 1 or X30, people who have preordered this camera will object, and rightly so.
So objecting to NR obscuring fine detail or demosaicing artifacts like aliasing found in sample images in 2014 is called "expecting too much from your camera"? Really? Sounds like you are blaming people for expecting at least GF2 or EPL1 quality which so far we have not seen.
Austrian: 1.DP about the ISO dial : "The combination of its position and its lock means that you have to move your left hand away from supporting the lens, and you probably have to take your eye away from the viewfinder - both of which are unwelcome distractions from the experience of shooting." I never had the want to change ISO with my eye on the viewfinder. Who has it ?
2. DP about the Compensation dial " Unfortunately it's now too stiff to be easily turned by your right thumb with the camera to your eye, which we think is a step backwards."I hate my XE-1 because of his loose compensation dial. I will not check the right position before each shot. Stiffer can't be a step backwards - for me. What do you think about ?
Apparently DPR wants free spinning dials like pinwheels. The problem is on cameras like the XE-1 or the original X100, the loose dials mean ALWAYS having to check to make sure your exposure is zeroed out.
topstuff: Frankly, this is all the camera most people will ever need.
I am glad it is not full frame - the lenses would be too large.
I am happy that it is APSC - because in size it can rival m43 while offering better IQ. I think many people prefer the 3:2 format over 4:3 anyway.
EVF looks exceptional. I would take an EVF like this over OVF every time.
The mirror box is dead ! We can look forward to a time when cameras are smaller, our backs are stronger and we only need a small camera bag rather than a big one.
Fuji seem to have nailed this. Well done.
> The mirror box is dead!
Except for the fact that DSLRs outsell mirrorless cameras by a huge margin, not to mention the fact that almost ALL professional photographers use some form of DSLRs or SLR Medium Format. But other than that minor detail, hip hip hooray for the emergence of lousy EVFs and VF blackout. :-)
Do the mushy greens and heavy NR come standard? :-)
But seriously, it's all well and good to make another APS-C camera but with DSLR styling, but unless the RAW conversion issues with Lightroom are sorted (which they really aren't as of yet), it's going to be tough for RAW shooters to get excited about this body.
Doing command line RAW processing with dcraw or investing in yet another converter like Capture One is not all that appealing. Nor is shooting 8-bit JPEGs.
marike6: Locking exposure dials a la the Nikon Df? Any amount of money that DPR loves this camera and the dials from day one. :-)
Part of what makes the X cameras at least interesting is the rangefinder design, the whole poor man's Leica thing.
What is the point copying a DSLR body styling? It's has no bright Pentaprism so why the pseudo pentaprism housing?
This is a head scratcher move from Fujifilm that is for sure. No FF, just an X camera dressed up as a DSLR. Has anybody asked why?
> Do you really spend all your time shooting with your left hand on the top plate, not supporting the lens as it should be?
No but I do shoot 90% of the time tripod mounted, and shooting hand held, there is no problem at all supporting the camera with my right hand.
Besides, the Fujifilm XT-1 has the ISO dial in the EXACT same location on the left. I'm guessing this fact won't make it into a future XT1 review as a Con. :-)
But the XT1 has locking dials because Fujifilm, like Nikon, understands that photographers need to know that dials won't be inadvertently moved between exposures.
jtan163: The beginning of the end for DSLRs.
> I think Marike6 may be yabookie's wife...
Don't know who you or Yabookie is, but I do know that I already have a wife. And I also know that none of these pricey mirrorless niche cameras are a threat to DSLRs at all.
> What will bring the end of DSLR is cost
This X-T1 is going to cost near $1200, so you are talking near $2000 with the 18-55 f/2.8 or 35 f/1.4. Not exactly a frugal purchase.
Considering you can get a D610 FF for that near that price or a K-3 / D7100 for considerably less I don't see anything here that is going to change DSLR users over to the X system.
And the fact that none of the mirrorless vendors have any mindshare whatsoever with professionals, I can't imagine why anyone would assume these ILCs will mean anything at all for DSLR sales, which are still absolutely creaming mirrorless camera sales.
> don't image that's true for Samsung. Or Leica.
Samsung's camera division is close to last place in mirrorless camera sales, and Leica makes rangefinders, not mirrorless cameras (besides, Leica has but a tiny percentage of the camera market).
> We criticised it for the fact that the ISO and exposure compensation dials require a change of grip
You guys seem to be the ONLY ones who had difficulty with the changing ISO on the Df. This video shows it to be quite easy to unlock and rotate the ISO without altering your grip. Push with thumb, spin with forefinger.
You guys did a subpar effort with your Nikon Df Preview and Review. You were negative and unprofessional from day one with "the Nikon Df is silly" nonsense. And now that you are going to most assuredly characterize this new Fujifilm wannabe DSLR as some game changing retro done right camera when it has the exact same locking dials and maximum 1/4000 shutter as the Nikon Df that you criticized even before you reviewed it?
I have an X-E1 and the EV Comp dial gets inadvertently moved all the time. Like the original X100, the dial is poorly implemented. But you knew that already.
From this camera?
We keep hearing about the "end of DSLRs", but DSLRs seem to be the ONLY large sensor cameras that are selling in any numbers at all.
All of the mirrorless vendors are in deep trouble financially and there is nothing about a niche camera from Fujifilm that will change this fact at all.
Locking exposure dials a la the Nikon Df? Any amount of money that DPR loves this camera and the dials from day one. :-)
Richard Murdey: You almost feel sorry for Nikon. Almost.
Why, because of this an APS-C mirrorless? A different body style with the same X-Pro1 / X-E1 internals?
So instead of making a FF, Fujifilm is dressing up an X-Pro1 to look like a DSLR. Trust me, it's not Nikon that needs your pity.
If these are the "best of 2013" it's clearly not been a banner year for cameras.
With the EM-1 you get free shutter shock and one of the smallest sensors for any crop sensor camera. The X100s took the excellent X100 and saddled it with X-Trans RAW conversion issues, and the K-3 is an excellent APS-C camera at a time when most advanced amateurs and professionals are shooting FF.
These polls give DPR another tool for advertiser banners like "DPR Reader's Poll Best of 2103" that we see in magazines and e-commerce sites. So in a sense they symbolize the growing commercialization of this website. Content like this is ultimately tied to Gear Shop which is fine if that's the direction they want to go, but kind of a turn off for readers.
Mirrorless Crusader: Obvioiusly no coincidence that there isn't a single Canikon product that could even win its own category. Of course it doesn't help that Canikon has no idea how to do mirrorless, though it's not long they ever had a ghost of a chance to win that category no matter what they did, considering the E-M1 and A7R,
All Canikon is doing is selling cameras, while the rest of the mirrorless vendors decide how they can even stay in business.
As far as these silly polls, truth be told the D7100 blows the socks of any of the crop sensor mirrorless cameras for IQ, AF performance and video, and the modest entry level FF D610 is flat out a better camera than the A7.
These polls exist as click bait for DPR, but truth be told there was no better camera than the D800 last year and this year...ho hum, Nikon added another camera to DxOMark's Top 10 with the Df, the best performing low-light camera ever made and Canon has brought HDSLR video up to the next level with the 70D. Meanwhile, mirrorless vendors keep trying to think of more ways to make cameras smaller, less ergonomic with zero consideration about flash systems, reasonably priced lenses, super telephotos, or anything that professional or advanced amateurs need.
Coliban: Hm, i wonder why no one of these images are really sharp. I can´t see the the portraits are sharp, even in the original size and even in the pallet transporter i can´t find a really sharp zone. Shutter speed is sufficing. Is it the aperture which can´t provide this sharpness at 1.2 or maybe it is the light which is irritating the AF?
The focal point is on her nose, mouth, the eye nearest to the camera. There may be other focal points, but that's where the photographer locked focus. At f/1.2, DOF is pretty shallow that close.
But for a random snap, this image looks lovely. Nice bokeh, skin tones and it goes without saying, nice model.
Carlos Loff: Nikon - Sop the trash, launch the best cameras you can produce
Then buy a K-3 so we don't have to listen to any more whining. :-)
The D610 has much better IQ than the K-3 and the D7100 is a better all around camera if you shoot video. No moire/aliasing issues that plague nearly every DSLR except the 5D Mk III and extraordinarily good low-light ability. Lens lineup between Pentax and Nikon? I've used both systems for years. There is no comparison.
Carlos Loff: Is this the best Nikon has to show in Las Vegas ??? Trash, trash, trash - Maybe next year we have a D5375, lol - One week from now, if the D400 is not announced - I swear for the most sacred saints - I buy the Pentax K-3
Buy a D7100, D610 or D800 like the rest of us. I can't imagine why none of those bodies would suit you, but if they don't buy a K-3. Nobody cares (no offense).
Just be prepared to buy into an extremely pricey K-mount, lots of holes in the lineup, often FF prices for APS-C lenses, and lots of screw driver AF lenses badly in need of an update with zero commitment and financial resources from Ricoh to do so.
zoranT: Who keeps buying this bulky, generic, plastic stuff?
Maybe a user with dainty girl hands would consider this tiny DSLR "bulky". For most people, these cameras have glove like ergonomics and are easily transportable.
Who's buying these? People who want class leading IQ, terrific HD video and access to one of the most complete lens mounts ever created.
As far as materials, people aren't going to care if your body is carbon fiber, plastic or titanium if your images aren't interesting. And Nikon has been leading all cameras in IQ for years which is one reason these cameras sell so well.
tmurph: Some of the comments on here are so negative it makes you wonder why they bother. There is actually someone on here who has compared this entry level camera with a pro spec Cannon....WHAT!! Then you get the one who hasn't got a clue about card speeds but derates the D7100 buffer, go figure. To have an entry level DSLR with that kind of spec has got to be applauded no matter who brings it to the market so, if you're one of those who's a gear freak but never takes any photos stop boreing everyone else on here and get a life.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but a lot of stuff on here is just childish claptrap.
The negativity starts at the top and filters down to users. But after several years now of being told how wonderfully desirable these small high end ILCs are, an announcement for an entry level DSLR with class leading features like 1080p60 and close to the same class leading IQ from the D5300 for very little money is met with mostly snarky comments and contempt.
But first world problems like no Wifi standard at this price point, reading about new gear is supposed to be fun. Unfortunately it has become anything but.
kewlguy: Even though we can always say "sharpness is not the only thing that matters" - still, a $1700 lens with poor sharpness? Does it get better stopped down? yes, but for the price, IMO, not good enough. I tried it for a day and my first thought was the awful plastic build. Yes, it produces 'unique' rendering, but the fair price should be $700 less.
According to the Sam Hurd review below, the 58 f/1.4G is metal. It also has much, much better bokeh than most other fifties, not to mention high color/contrast that you'd expect from a professional grade Nikkor.