It seems funny to me how some people in the Canon forums are bragging up the 7DII as the best APS-C model ever, bragging about its specs when this camera exceeds it in every way… except price.
I think the biggest question mark is how well this AF system performs, but on paper at least… this is dang impressive!!!
This is more what I was expecting from Canon.
Just another Canon shooter: It is amazing that the author thinks of the removal of the AA filter as a plus. By this site's own admission, there is little gain in resolution but visible "gain" in aliasing, like here:
The most significant thing, if true, would be the ability of the sensor to register more photons, and the better tonality associated with that.
I was doing a comparison myself with their test scene between the Sony A7R, D800, D800E and Canon 6d. The A7R shows TONS of moire, the D800E a bit less, the D800 shows less than the D800E but still a surprising amount. The Canon 6d… NONE!
This isn't a fanboy post… I'm actually thinking of getting a Sony A7R and metabones to complement my 6d. But everything comes at a cost and the lack of an AA filter may help some, but it causes a lot of problems also.
Just know what your getting and be sure its what you want.
Real McKay: This is exactly why, I along with what I believe is the majority, prefer programs to be on our computers.Can you imagine earning you living in photography & this happens - its just not acceptable. I am switching to something where I do not depend on the cloud. LR5 & PSE12 are available still outside the cloud so no great loss of functionality for 99% of what I need.I also believe that this will hurt Adobe more than they think.
"By DStudioCraig76 - You're saying you don't need Photoshop, and you will NEVER need it it the future either!
I have my ideals, but in the end Adobe gets to decide most of what happens, and I just need to decide whether or not I need the product."
NO that is not what I said at all….. Stop putting words in my mouth.
I have CS5 suite of ALL of Adobe software. I am a graphic designer/web designer/photographer. I also have LR5 and *cough cough* I have heard there are ways *wink wink* of getting Photoshop CC for free…. Not that I would know anything about that.
I'm against this method of marketing their software. So I am taking a stand against it. I'm well set up software wise for years to come.
Also, there are getting to be many excellent alternatives. Adobe is not the only game in town.
Im done with this discussion.
Well, tell that to Adobe… I was on the phone with several agents over the course of a week while I was signing up for the program.
I was told by multiple agents that the photoshop/lightroom bundle is an annual contract… etc.
SO maybe YOU should talk to Adobe personally.
One 'minor' thing I want to correct you on. It is not a MONTHLY subscription, it is a YEARLY subscription.
You commit to 1 year, and at the end of that year have 1 chance to cancel your membership without penalty, or you are automatically renewed for another YEAR at ANY RATE THEY CHOSE. And Adobe does NOT have to notify you of any change in rate.
If you decide to cancel you must pay 50% of the charge for the remaining months on your contract.
I looked into this quite extensively. The backhanded shady ways that Adobe tries to present this are the main reasons I didn't, and will never, go with the CC.
LVPhoto1: Just hold the filter in front of any lens; pros' have been doing this for almost fifty years of my career in business......only a thought!!!
Dude, all of your sarcasm aside look at the front of the Samyang 14mm f/2.8. It is bulbous and has a petal hood. HOW can I hold an ND filter in front of the lens for long exposures (sometimes several minutes) and keep light from bleeding in and spoiling the shot?!?!
The only thing that has me a bit worried is the filter strength. I would want a strong 8-10 stop ND filter. The ND8 is only 3 stops. The filter holder will hold two filters so you could slip in two ND8s I suppose.
Does anyone know of another company that makes filters that size at more like 9 or 10 stop ND?
DVT80111: Why bother, just shoot raw, NIK it later.
If you don't know why shooting HDR is not sufficient then you don't need a filter system like this.
Its a bulbous front element. Holding an ND filter in front of the lens for several minutes wouldn't work to keep the light out.
Its great news that this filter is coming out. I was planning to buy that lens very soon anyway for astral photography, but now I will be able to use it for long exposure (water/cloud smoothing) as well!
On the 60D it'll be wide angle, on the 6D ultra wide. Heck of a great lens for the price and now I want one even more!!!
Incredible shot!!!!!!! Great composition, excellent sunset and perfect shutter speed to get just the right amount of flow for the water. LOVE IT!!!!!!
Your focus is off. The girls face is out of focus, instead the auto focus (unless you did that manually) is on the drapery behind her.
Its pretty sad how sharp the background immediately behind the model is, but she is out of focus. Laughable.
Im not sure what this is supposed to be… pretty pathetic.
Try getting your models to loosen up, and straighten the camera. Also the tone…it appears to be sepia, but is has a greenish cast on the right of the image.
Composition is unbalanced due to the horizon being off center and the island on the right. The girls expression appears troubled, and the white balance is to blue.
Your key light is way to strong… blown out all the shadows, looks flat. I pity the model.
peevee1: Strange camera. On the one hand, it is clearly aimed at a non-professional - GPS, Scene modes, light weight, simplistic AF system... On the other it drops articulated screen and built-in flash... what's Canon's problem?
I agree on alot of that. The thing for me though, as an XTi and 60D owner who knows how to control noise at high ISO.... where is the attraction to buy this camera? The Nikon D600 has many of the features that would tempt me, but im reluctant to switch systems.
I think I will be sticking with what I have for the next couple years. In fact I finally got a nice ultra wide angle lens for aps-c, so I see even less reason to 'upgrade' to FF.
JMichaelsPhoto: Comparing brands is like comparing apples to apples, IMO. So the Nikon D600 is a little faster, has more focus points, a few more pixels but the pictures that come out of it are all green and whatnot. I mean, okay...it handles better, is faster, has dual card slots but it takes green pictures. It's probably not all that bad but every reviewer out there isn't too keen on nikon DSLR's right now. Canon is on a roll it seems, and for the 6D...it's predictable that your thoughts on it mirror the thoughts you had on the 60D. I own a 60D and I'm probably one of the kind of owners Canon wants to buy this camera and in my opinion, the same reason I decided to go with the 60D over the obviously better 7D will be the same reason I decide to go with the 6D over the 5DIII- price. It's damn-near $1500 cheaper, still FF, and class competitive IQ and ISO performance with a really sensitive center AF point- class leading, in fact. So the choice is an easy one for me. I like nice pictures.
"It's damn-near $1500 cheaper" Where are you shopping? A quick pricegrabber search to compare the bodies shows a difference of $721 - $876 depending on who you trust. Amazon is usually considered reliable though....
Good point photoshopuser. I complained alot about this cameras lack of certain features, but the more I think about it im starting to get more interested/excited.
For the night time photographer you get...
• GPS to know where you are and what direction your facing. Very useful for star trails.
• -3 ev center point auto focus. Canons (supposedly) most sensitive AF ever (even if it is only on 1 point)
• ISO 102,400 and claims of 1 full stop ISO improvement over any previous EOS model
I would have liked to see a built in intervalometer, but since I already have one thats not really an issue for me. You can buy them on Amazon for $15.
I still wish Canon would have included some more features like Nikon did with the D600. But the 6D may actually fill a certain niche in the market very nicely. Have to wait for the full reviews AF and image tests to see.
JazzMasta: It seems to be a winner if you care for- image quality- low light capability- fast auto focus- good build
Not so good if you want- brag about specs to the neighbour- choosing between hundreds of focus points- taking lots of pictures per second and spending days cleaning the harddrive
Luckily I care most about the first 4 :)
The Auto Focus is important for IQ. Dual memory cards are important when shooting events to make an immediate backup incase one card fails so you don't get your @ss sued later. Frame rate is important for capturing that 'special' moment in action photography...and Nikon has a camera that looks to do all these things BETTER at the SAME price. Oh and the built in intervalometer means not having to buy/carry around so much extra equipment during night photography shoots.
IF Canon would drop the price to $1700 on this thing it would fit into the market alot better given the competition. But at its SRP it just doesn't make sense.
LeeDo: WOW the negativity!! This camera was designed and meant to be used for landscape and portrait photography. Hence the FF sensor. I have the 7D for macro, sport and wildlife. I also own all L series glass, a big plus for use with this camera. I chose the 7D for its size which fits perfectly in my hands, and the 6D is just a smidgeon smaller and lighter. PERFECT! I plan on using the two bodies for their intended purposes. And THANK YOU CANON for giving us Wi-Fi and GPS!! This will force other manufacturers to do the same. Two sorely lacking functionalities on all other DSLR FF cameras. The simplistic button functionality is a godsend. I don't need a billion buttons performing this and that. The inclusion of a popup flash and AF assist lamp would be a waste on this camera. The sensor will more than make up for these omissions. The 6D is just what I have been waiting for to complete my kit. And you can bet Canon will sell millions of these things! The sales figures will be the tell all.
Technically the 6D is not quite full frame. The sensor is a smidge smaller than the 5D Mark II & III at 35.8 x 23.9mm. That is the same size as the original 5D sensor. Im not sure what the pixel pitch is compared to the 5D Mark III though.
I hope your right though LeeDo. I'll wait to see reviews, if the auto focus performs better in real world shooting than it sounds like on paper, and the ISO performance is a couple stops cleaner than the 60D...then it'll start looking more interesting to me.